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Motorized board
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On 1/16/2002 Herbn
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I figure some sort of molded carbon tub with a couple of billet subframes for attaching stroker style suspensions with equal length links so the suspension doesn't induce steering, driven with mini cv joints, all fourwheels,maybe two trimmed wheels per corner connected at the core. A square four two stroke, 50cc tops,electronic controls through a special suit with quick releasing hookups,at least until wireless becomes responcive enough.Yeah, i'll get started:)
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jet-powered beer cooler
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On 1/16/2002
psYch0Lloyd
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gavin: Thanks for tying (that) one on. Isn't it bizarre how we seem to have the same source for our inspiration? I envision that the power plant for this future project of mine (as9design) to be about four times smaller and powered by a mix of kerosene and hydrogen peroxide… and no handle bars.
As anyone who has ridden powered skateboards should know there is a biological change that is a tradeoff for externally generated power. One discovers that certain muscles will start to get stronger because of the introduction of having to resist the board’s forward momentum (in order to stay on). It has a tendency to want to pull the rug out of under one’s feet. When ridden for long periods these powered skateboards generally produce a backache and a strange asymmetrical body structure. Not to mention the hours spent in the “shed” servicing the damn thing. This is when the jet-powered beer cooler comes in handy. Guess our Kiwi friend never heard of the “Texas roll”.
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Motors, again
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On 1/16/2002 Duane
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Hugh, I found a site that has surplus 2-cycle motors, I'll find it again and send you the link. They had the motor on my board, new & complete, for 100. For a rear truck, a brakeboard rear truck is interesting, live axle in the bearing tube, and no bearings in the wheels, just like my rear truck except no chain sprocket. You should drive both rear wheels, yeah they may scrub a bit on turns but not much, they point in the direction of the turn (unlike on a car). The motor on my board is mounted to the truck axle tube, it must be or the chain would slack in a turn.
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ultimate go ped
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On 1/16/2002
gavin
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now we're talking, and if we combine the application of technology from this site we'll really be getting somewhere!
www.asciimation.co.nz/beer
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Stroker Trucks
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On 1/16/2002
John O'Shei
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Strokers sucked. They didn't turn for shit and they rattled on any rough surface. And if you don't think they were a bizzare, maybe you should ride for Team Spandex. Tights look cool with fuzzy white leg warmers and L.A. Gear hightops. Herb, check it out, you might want to try wine coolers too. I like to call it the Flashdance look. It would go great with Strokers, and a purple Banzai! Strokers, yeah! Now, go stroke it! Strokers rule!
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the ultimate go-ped
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On 1/16/2002
psYch0Lloyd
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Hugh: I was thinking that...
...this is the way you should go!!!
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motors
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On 1/15/2002
hugh r
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I checked out the go-ped motor and it does indeed look like it has all the elements I need except for one... price, a little more than I had hoped (at least on ebay) for this project... am hoping to be able to do the whole thing for less than 200... not counting board and trucks and wheels and bearings and grip tape and time... etc...
So, whats a sub-$100 alternative motor for a 235 lb guy? How about a big high rpm 2 stroke weed wacker motor? Too small? Could it be geared differntly to handle the load? (I am real new to this so bear with me please!)
As far as trucks go, I was thinking of modifying a randal luge axel and using it in the Comp II trucks. Sprocket would be fixed to the axel and the wheel would too... thought about make both wheels fixed, but figured that they would fight against eachother in a turn... thoughts? HR
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Motors
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On 1/15/2002
Chris Raezer
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Forget reciprocating power, you should be thinking turbines! A Pratt & Whitney PT6 should work nicely.
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Duane is da Man
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On 1/15/2002 BoBo
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Is it just me or does anyone else notice that Duane is plethora of skater info?
Duane, I need to pick your brain at the Gathering. If only to see what's actually in there. I suspect a 80gb HD running at 10,000 rpm.
I enjoy reading your posts so much these days. Always wellthought out and informative.
BoBo [Quadgal Racing]
And remember. We New Englanders have to stick together.
I was born in Prov, and raised in New Bedford.
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Moto engine
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On 1/15/2002 Duane
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Hugh, I would suggest one of the 2-stroke engines commonly found on the Go-Peds. I think the largest is a 40cc, which should be around 2.5 hp. The availability of parts is a huge plus. I would seek one of the rear trucks like I have with the live axle, the key to good traction. I would also seek one of the go-peds with the large motor and chain drive (here you get the clutch and chain sprockets, the cheap go-peds have no clutch and a friction-dive arrangement which sucks). The Go-Ped motors have good parts support, and even performance parts like tuned pipes for more go. A crashed or non-running go-ped might be able to be had cheap. non-running usually means a carb problem like bad fuel pump diaphragm, a rebuild kit for the carb is $8, takes 15 minutes. 4-stroke motors are too heavy.
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motors
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On 1/15/2002
loneskater
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well, a 68 hemi would keep it vintage, but then you would develope a new nickname like scabs and that is already taken. i would look at a 2 stroke motor, the power per cubic cm is better than a 4 stroke. on the other hand i always wanted to see what a Yamaha or Honda 125 would do on a motoboard, there available a motor cycle salvage yards. as i remember in the late 70's (very dimly) the motorized boards i saw came from italy i think and used moped motors. the only one (motoboard)in town was still on display when i left in 1981 and for all i know it is still there.
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motoboard
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On 1/15/2002
Dave G
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Hugh, wouldn't it depend on the ratio/drivetrain used? I thought the used a small chain saw motor w/ a centifical clutch! If that might be under powered..How 'bout a 1968 mopar hemi?
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phamplet
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On 1/14/2002
hugh r
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Is that you no good ed? I know there's a couple of guys off of your isp... I would indeed like to have that...
I am very seriously considering doing a powered board... at the very least, I will be putting up a motoboard page on my site... over the past couple of years I have had numerous inquires about a project like this... so I guess it's something that I'm going to do...
anyone have an idea of how large of a 2 stroke motor it would take to propel this averaged sized guy around? How about in a 4 stroke? HR
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Moto Board
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On 1/14/2002 Me
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Hugh, here is the cover of a 3 page dealer phamplet I have ya need it?
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Motoboard trucks
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On 1/13/2002 Duane
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Version I had a regular rear truck, both rear wheels carry bearings and the left rear is driven with a chain sprocket. Version II had a live rear axle, spun in a large axle tube, sprocket on left rear wheel, wheels do not have bearings in them. Wheels are hubbed 70mm. Version III has a worm-gear drive, drive shaft assembly that likes to peal the worm gear off when a heavier person hits a bump under power. Also the shaft drive steals 20% or so of the power in the 90 degree drive train. If that kid wants to part with non-functional boards or parts, Hugh has dibs but if he wants to clear house let me know.
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photos
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On 1/13/2002
dom
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thank you Lora
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kid with moto's
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On 1/12/2002
hugh r
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Duane, drag for you on the wheels then... :)
Scabs, let me know what the kids into... maybe we can do a trade? If not, I could probably pry loose a couple of bucks. I appericaite your help! HR
PS Did that check ever get there?
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motoboards
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On 1/12/2002
Scabs
wrote in from
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Hugh,
I know a kid who has 3 of the early boards and only one works. I`ll see if he wants to part with one.
Duane,
How do I tell if the board is the one that matches Hugh`s wheels?
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Moto wheels
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On 1/12/2002 Duane
wrote in from
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Alas, they do not fit my board, the hub assembly is completely different on the live axle version, I would not want to mess with changing the hub, the screw holes are likely in a different spot. My wheels are near perfect, too. I appreciate the offer. I think my wheels could be original even though they are regular c-70, the hubs are put on exactly straight, the average hack couldn't likely do that. Get a motor and make a board for the groms, the single wheel drive probably wouldn't handle "average size" skaters for long.
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motoboard stuff
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On 1/12/2002
hugh r
wrote in from
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Duane,
I'm very interested in all you have on these boards... including pics of yours... a "Duane D's Motoboard" page is in order... HR
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Motowheels
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On 1/12/2002
hugh r
wrote in from
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Duane,
Shoot me your address... they're for you... happy birthday... HR
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Moto wheels cont.
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On 1/12/2002 Duane
wrote in from
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Just looked, those are the earliest type, before the live rear axle, used regular trucks. Those are the 2nd gen Krypto shape, the screws used to tear out of them, the cores helped fix this on later boards, plus sharing the load between both rear wheels (my wheels have a keyway / hub that fits in the regular bearing seats, not bearings, and a 10mm axle). Hugh, I've see the same motor that is on mine, a Tanaka 23cc, on the web new for $100. I also have info on the original boards, a road test from an english magazine, kindly sent by Gavin, 24.9 mph on tap !. I can forward the articles if you are interested, off my work computer. Excellent pics.
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Moto wheels
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On 1/12/2002 Duane
wrote in from
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Wouldn't those motoboard wheels feel at home with someone who has a motoboard, like, er, me ? I now have the engine completely cleaned, carb rebuilt, reassembled. Mine has C-70 Kryps, the chain hub screwed right in, probably because the original had the same krypto cores. Can't test the engine because it has to be push started (no clutch on early ones). The earliest had left rear wheel drive only on regular trucks, later they had a live rear axle and both rears were driven (mine is this way). The origial trucks have tracker geometry, the plates look like trackers 100%. They had a new one at Purple Skunk, still in production, but now with shaft drive which breaks easily.
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YoYO and tracker mags
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On 1/12/2002 bman
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Where is the switch to turn those things off.........Nice setup QG & BB
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stuff
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On 1/12/2002
hugh r
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Lora's stuff is very cool... I think your a lucky man Bob... I am SURE that she's too good for you!
The duro on the moto wheels is 95a... they are actually very nice... I feel a project coming on!! HR
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