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HH as Bigfoot
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On 8/17/2002
W. Tucker
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TK said, "I too have heard folks speak of the "2x4 rollerskate truck skateboard."
Such as your fearless leader and team inspiration, Herr H? He not only says it in his SKATEABOARDER interview, but repeated it 25 years later on the Roe Team profile page.
I guess the first time I meet Mr H I can walk up and say, "hey, Henry! TK says you're Sasquatch! Got anyhting you'd like to add?"
Anyway, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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2x4
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On 8/17/2002 patio
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I can see it done as a longboard trial thing, but not as a basic board, skateboards were emulating surfboards.
as wesley points out, a 1x6 is closer to a surfboard replica than a 2x4. I found some roller derby loose ball urethane wheels on these old skates at a flea market, got a 1x6 of ash, and made a killer/primitive board. a 2x4 would be an ankle snapper.
the term 2x4 with roller skate wheels I think is just now a generic term for ancient equipment. yes, someone did it at some point long ago.
Mark Patain totally rips(ripped?), I saw him on an episode of SK8TV. he said he started skating when he was 6. He said he took his sister's roller skates apart and nailed them to a 2x4.
many of you have re-drilled boards. how often are the trucks slightly off. that's as an adult.
many of you have kids. could your 6yr old take apart a pair of skates and nail them to a 2x4, and actually have it rideable?
just wondering...
p
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2x4
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On 8/17/2002 66.
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2x4's were the most common scrap at the construction sites we frequented (we moved on to a career of shopping at midnight lumber, but that's a story for another day)
it wasn't width that caused a problem, it was the height
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2x4's ...the Sasquatch of Skateboarding??
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On 8/17/2002
tk
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I too have heard folks speak of the "2x4 rollerskate truck skateboard" . Over the years (I'm 35) I've been to parts of the country where they were said to still exist, but never saw one. I even once saw a fuzzy polaroid of one near some trash cans in a trailer park in the Apalachians. Was the 2x4 the true decendent of todays modern skate decks, or is it all created in the minds of those who yearn for a simpler time. TK
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Why 2x4s?
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On 8/17/2002
W. Tucker
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I never did ride a 2x4. What I never could understand, though, was why a 2x4? It's so thin that it's almost impossible to get you feet on it. Why is it we never hear about kids who rode a 2x6? Or even a 1x6 made of something a little stronger than pine? Are we to assume that going to the hardware store and buying something other than pine is an innovation of only the past 20 years?
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2x4's
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On 8/17/2002 66.
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around 1979 my first longboard was a 4 foot 2x4 with lazer slaloms and panther 65mm's
i could barely afford one skateboard when i was a kid, quivers were something that existed only in the magazine
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2x4s and rollerskates
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On 8/17/2002 GBJ
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I am not saying that Scabs isn't telling the truth, because I have no reason to doubt him, but I'll tell ya... if I had a nickel for every guy that wanted to tell me about how he used to ride a 2x4 w/ roller skates once he realized I'm a skateboarder, I'd be a wealthy man. Either there were a hell of alot more people tearing apart their sisters' clamp-on roller skates or there are a lot of people who are full of s#$t. I distinctly recall, somewhere in the mid-80s, there was even a stigma with our local skate scene, that if you wanted to be immediately labelled a total geek, just show up for the first time somewhere, and tell us the story about how you invented skateboarding by nailing your sister's roller skate to some unlikely chunk of wood!
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Super Surfer
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On 8/16/2002
Chuck
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While my Bahne was the first board I ever owned (summer of '75), I rode my brother's Super Surfer in the 60's. Clay wheels and all. I never was able to stand up on it, but rode it either kneeling or lying down on it (called it "alligatoring"). Gave the lay-down up as I got older, toes dragged on the ground as my feet got bigger. Never occurred to us to wear shoes...
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2x4 skates
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On 8/16/2002 patio
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dood, you were born in like 1960 or something, and there were real skateboards in the 60's...did you really ride a 2x4? crazy. totally bad geometry there...
I started riding my (8 yrs older)sister's hang ten like in 1970...it was orange with a blue surfer dude on it and metal wheels. probably like a 1x4 with roller skate wheels...
p
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Proline
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On 8/16/2002
Scabs
wrote in from
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Funny thing that little treasure I donated to Marty and Kona Skatepark, but it wasn`t a part of my past.
I, like many of the same era, started on a 2 X 4 w/ roller skates nailed onto the bottom. Funny as I remember that you had to be careful of which nails you used. Since we all rode bare foot back then, having a nail pop through was not recommended.
My first production board was a Bolt fiberglass deck Chicago trucks and DK-51`s. My buddy down the street got the Hookers board at about the same time.
Anybody see a NOS Bolt in blue with the logo on bottom in yellow, give me a holler....
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Hobie Hotdogger
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On 8/16/2002
Patio
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I scored this board recently.
yellow. acs 430. little red Power Paws. KOYO bearings.
all in what I'd consider very good slightly used condition. or is it nearly mint. or almost NOS...yeah it's a used skateboard heh heh heh
I ride my hill on it from time to time.
as a skater-friendly gesture, I again will offer this board for sale to someone if it was their first board or something. I'd hate to be using it when it might "mean something" to one of youz...
or will trade for equally good condition; clear purple Pro-line with Chicago trucks and Roller Sports Urethane wheels(amber).
the board is pictured in my quiver pics on the "adventures" section of www.patiomendino.com
p
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Waxing Nostalgic... or "What Was Hip"
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On 8/16/2002
Steve in AZ
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My first ride was a generic clay-wheel number from our local Smitty's store, that got painted some funky colors. Amazing how slippery painted wood can be! 8-O
About the same time, the rest of the neighborhood kids were riding the "bike shop" boards...the aluminum Pro Lines, Cal-240's and 270's with Universal Grabbers and BIG grabbers, or if they had really COOL folks, they rode the fiberglass Duraflex 27" with the Big Barrell wheels! Purple was the color of choice.
When it was finally OUR turn (me and my brother) to get new boards (around our birthdays), he got the Makaha Mako (or LX-200, if you're keeping track), Orange plastic with the black slider-trucks and tan Makaha Urethane Wheels.
I got the Makaha LX-500!! Blue 27" Fiberglass with the integral grip surface, Diamond kicktail, the black sliders and the PRO Urethane wheels (looked like Alligators, but Loose bearing). In 4 years, it got the axle extenders and fake rr4's, and it was eventually stolen by my next-door neighbor. Tom's board ended up in the garbage.
last month, I presented Tom with an EXACT replica of his 70's board, with the advice to NOT ride it...22" boards don't work with 200 Lb adults.
Have yet to find my LX-500. Still have the trucks and wheels if you can find the deck for me!!
AFA these old rides, I now own one used Blue Duraflex, and one very MINT Sportfun Crysta24 Clear lexan board. I've got a few other of the plastic Makaha's that I'll be putting up on Ebay in the coming months.
-=S=-
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Pat Love
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On 8/16/2002
loneskater
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speaking of Pat Love and Proline, my lil sis comes to visit me last year for Christmas and says she will bring me some old boards if if buy her kids skooters. she shows up with a red proline/Chicago/Stokers and a super clean Pat Love model with Gull Wing HPG iv's no base plates and minty red yoyos. i couldn't buy the skooters fast enough. hid the proline with the Free formers and other junk as to not devalue my quiver (i love that phrase, i don't want to devalue my quiver too much..), and the Love goes next to the Majeraja... George.
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those glorious toy boards...
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On 8/16/2002
gavin
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a UK perspective: the flyer was the first 'real' board (not home-made) that i ever stood one, and i clearly remember the local toy shop having them, and lusting through the window at em. my freind was lucky enough to be bought one, and compared to the roller skates nailed to planks of wood we all rode (kids of today don't know what they're missing) it was a butter smooth sweet turning revelation. then again, the bonus for me was that he gave his old home-made board, made by his dad who was a carperner so the best on the street, and this in itself was far better than the badly nailed together affair that i'd been using.
But the i went up to secondary school (summer of '77), and the plasticfantastic Lotus boards were the ride of choice (with a home steamed nosekick), somehow the innocent flyer just did'nt compare!
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Proline, Bahne, Banzai
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On 8/15/2002
Chuck
wrote in from
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My first board weren't no POS...it was a Bahne! My second was a Banzai, however I never thought it was that bad a board...I just didn't ride it very much.
My brother was like me, his first was a Bahne. His second was a dark blue Proline. I always wanted one of my own, orange if I could get it, but never found el dinero. We unearthed the blue Proline while moving him into his new house a few weeks back...he said he may sell it once I told him it might be "worth something"...along with his Kryptonics foamcore. If I show him the recent eBay sale (NOS Krypto for, like, $1400, I'm sure he'll sell it LOL, even though it is not NOS).
Some more decks from my past I wish I could have again:
Fox Pat Love model (a So. Florida favorite)
Rockit
Z-Woody 33" (closest I could come to a longboard in the late '70's)
Dogtown Biniak (nah, I'd probably just snap the tail off again)
Powell Litebeam (actually, I still have mine...the nose is broken, and it is painted in a tasteful "urban camo" pattern...sure would like a GUC orange or yellow one...I don't get paid enough though).
I still have my Bahne, and my 3rd deck, a round-tail FibreFlex Bowlrider, 27". Now all's I need are some Chicago trucks and Stokers to get the Bahne up and running, and some YoYos and Trackers for the Bowlrider....
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the Pro-Line
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On 8/15/2002 Patio
wrote in from
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i hope to visit her later this month...
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Proline
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On 8/15/2002 scabs
wrote in from
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Ah, those loose ball bearings and roller sports wheels...
Amazing how they free spun as long as my Bones Swiss bearings.
You gotta admit P, that`s the perfect home fer the little girl.
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Scabs' Proline
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On 8/15/2002 patio
wrote in from
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I made the mistake of revealing that a purple proline was my first ever deck.
I heard from scabs. he had "my board". (but not the same wheels)
I thought "cool", I could probably get it for $30 or $40...NOT!
he put it up on ebay, opening bid a hunnert dollahs! whew, too steep for me. That's alot of cabbage me and Manny could be cookin' up.
I got to pick the skateboard up and look at it at the King of Kona 2002 contest. Even though it seemed so tiny, compared to when I was 10yrs old, I would have loved to ride it. but it was "almost mint" or something, so I handled it gently.
then he gave it away.
so every trip home to see mom, I will visit Kona, ride the snake, touch the Pro Line, and visit Animal Chin.
sniff, sniff...
p
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Nash wanted...
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On 8/15/2002
K-LEE
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Just to show I mean well, I'll give anyone $100 for a hot pink Nash Kona from the late '80s. (I paid $25 for it in '89 at Wal-Mart.) Need not be mint, GUC okay, and wheels and bearings can be missing, as I'll be looking for those Power Paws once I have the Nash. See? Nashes ARE valuable!
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Sims Conicals
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On 8/15/2002
Dan Hughes
wrote in from
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I'm looking for some Sims Conicals like I used to ride (yellow), Kevin said he had some in a July Post. I'm interested. He didn't leave his email however.
thanks,
dan
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more rippers on plastic
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On 8/15/2002
M. Chandler
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In the e'S (shoes) menikmati video/dvd, Bob Burnquist skates a big ol' vert ramp on a cheesy plastic banana-type board.
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Ron Popeil makes the guys at Enron look like pikers!
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On 8/15/2002
Chairman of the FTC
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Don't tell me, lemme guess: the "Slal-o-matic?"
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Ronco Downhill
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On 8/15/2002 SSofS
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That's right,W.T., Ronco were first on the market with the split axle truck (forget Gull Wing) they practically invented the precision bearing AND were the first to combine fibreglass and plywood to produce the very first cambered slalom decks.
Beat that, Nash-o-philes!!!
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Utterly undesireable with no redeeming qualities whatsoever!
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On 8/15/2002
W. Tucker
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I cannot believe that it is now day THREE of the Nash thread on the Vintage Board forum.
I just thank god Ronco never made skateboards. We'd probably never hear the end of it!
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old nash's
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On 8/14/2002
hugh r
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I personally believe that several of the old nash boards (especially the roller skate truck/wheel type) in minty condition are a valuable addition to a collectors quiver.
Not a whole lot of these in excellent condition are around any more... and I do think they are an important part of skateboardings history... as our the freeformers, gt's, and someday even the banzai's.
As for some of them being "toy" skateboards?!? Get real dudes! They're all "toy" skateboards!!! Every vintage board regardless of how desirable, is a "toy"!!!! Every new one too for that matter... HR ;)
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