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Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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Uphill
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On 2/28/2003
Leo
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Geezer-x, TK also made the uphill course, remember that it was reversed to make them climb by the steepest part.
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Course Speed and Rear Steer
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On 2/28/2003
Mike Maysey
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For me, as a rule, the faster I go the more steering I take out. This was a secret revealed to me by John Gilmour. I prefer to steer my board mainly by the front and just let the back trail. All my boards have the steering taken out in the back so at low speeds I really have to work to get going but once I get up to speed the rear truck tracks nicely and doesn't slide or try to over take the front on me like it did with the flat riser in the rear. I use the TTC truck and RTS in the rear of my boards...for the record.
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uphill pumping
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On 2/28/2003
Geezer-X
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At the site where The Gathering is held, as you stand at the top, the hill runs down to both your left and right, forming a loop that flattens out at the bottom. A downhill/pumping uphill race was held; you'd bomb the big one, continue through the flat bit (where the Cyber Slalom is held) and as speed dissipates, pump up the less steep, longer hill. Chaput I think was the only person who got all the way up. I've tried it a few times, and look forward to the next time I'm back there without snow on the ground (it's a nice place to hike in the winter)as I think a winter of indoor CS practice can really get one's pump in shape.
Question of the day: Given a TS/Hybrid course, maybe 6-7 feet at the top opening into offsets of up to 5', with bunch of stingers at the bottom, a course where you're maximum pumping the top, either carrying or pumping the middle, and a pumpfest dragrace wiggle at the bottom, how much does rear truck angle matter. I ran RTX/RTS or TTC with the rear truck usually dewedged 8 to 10 degrees, and the front flat. Lately I've heard about people using flat RTXs on both ends. I was watching Vlad doing consistant 8.4s on a dusty concrete CS course the other night, and the back end of his board describes a much wider arc than Mine, or just about anyones else I've seen.
Is there a correlation between how much rear steer you use, and overall course speed?
Your wisdom is appreciated, Mr. M
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Team?
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On 2/27/2003
Mike Maysey
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Hamm, I'm staying with Turner
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SlalomCross
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On 2/27/2003
Mike Maysey
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John, My guess for top speeds at the slalomcross event will be in the low to mid 20's. I've skated that hill before, the Seismic ad I appeared in a while back was shot in that hill, it's got an interesting pitch and roll to it. My plan of attack will be to qualify as close to the top as I can and then just get the heck out the gates and be the first to enter the pass through gates. The off camber corner will be interesting. I'm thinking of using my downhill slider gloves so I can get nice and low and keep traction through those turns. I can't wait to race uphill, I've always wanted to do that. I practice some incline pumping sometimes so this should be a fun barometer.
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Team
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On 2/27/2003
Hamm
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Mike, are you still on Team Turner?
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what will be peak speeds @ slalomcross
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On 2/27/2003
john airey
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I curious about what the peak speeds you expect to hit in the slalomcross event.
If you can tell us as slalom pro how you are going to handle this event without giving too much away to the competition, that would be fun to read about.
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Is there anybody out there? Just nod if you can hear me
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On 2/27/2003
Mike Maysey
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What's going on out there in the world of slalom? Anyone got any cool stories or anything to share? It's starting to get too quiet in here lately.
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Gilmourese
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On 2/25/2003
Geezer-X
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Gilmour's a pretty helpful guy, but he always loses cell signal right about when he starts ranting, so I followed that all the way through, no problem. Essentially, Practice the usual CS course, but give yourself more time to get your stance, and compress the push distance 'til you're down to the 3' box 15' from the first cone. CS is cool, but it's a weak substitute for actual racing on a hill. Again, Thanks Mr. Maysey. It's nice to have a question answered without a verbal beat-down.
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CyberSlalom
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On 2/25/2003
Mike Maysey
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Does that help? or did I lose you in my Gilmourish explaination? no offense John, but you know how you have a tendency to be verbose sometimes.
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Cyber Slalom
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On 2/25/2003 G-X
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Thanks Mike.
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CyberSlalom
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On 2/25/2003
Mike Maysey
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I spent many hours running the CyberSlalom when first learning how to slalom. Something that helped me I think was the unlimited push. You can get way back there, push a bunch, get your feet set and go. Once you find the best spot for your feet make a chalk outline of your feet so you know exactly where to land your feet when going for the start 15' away from the first cone or whatever the distance is. As far as getting up to speed quick...getting your feet set is the most critical part. You have to find the sweet spot on your board and like I said, I think the easiest way to find that is with the unlimited push. Another thing that really helped me was running the CyberSlalom as if my knees were bound together. This really forces me to concentrate on whipping my feet back an forth instead of muscling them. I mean, you obviously have to muscle it, but you will reach a point where you're sort of whipping your body through the course. This type of skating will make all those little muscles stronger. Do it enough, and when you get into a slalom course on a hill, you will start to skate by reaction rather than by thinking. That's where you want to be. You want to skate without thinking about as much as possible. It takes way to long to think about it. You have to train your muscle memory to just react...reacting happens way faster than thinking and then doing...by this time you've hit a bunch of cones and/or blown out of the course.
Is this enough blather? I hope so.
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Kepler...Wes Kepler
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On 2/25/2003
Geezer -X
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Nice reference, Mr Tucker.
I have an actual slalom technique related question. As I've stated ad nauseum, I'm a 200+lb slalom guy. Subsequently, I'm not at my best in short flatland events. I was doing a cyberslalom workout last night, and it seems my big obstacle (besides figuring out PVDs) is getting my stance fast enough to really attack the first cone after 3 pushes. I was doing low 9.8s, and this is on the same dusty concrete that Vlad ripped a high 8.3 on. I understand that my power to weight ratio sucks, and the more open the course is, the better I do, but a CS course with a timer is a great way to refine the mechanics of one's pump. I nedd to find a few more 10ths. I push mongo, and enter on the left. Any advice how to get the power on sooner?
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I B A 8th Grade Drop Out
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On 2/25/2003
Jethro Maysey
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I ain't be noin' no by gum gravitay...ain't none o'dat round dees perts...y'all shood jus go git on yer skate brd n ride em.
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BMIs (Basic Mechanics of Infinity)
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On 2/24/2003
Johannes Kepler
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"A Body At Rest Tends To Stay At Rest"
Moral: if you don't hit your cones, they won't go nowhere, gravity or no gravity.
(Did any of you people make it past the 8th Grade?)
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BMI /BMs/Gravity
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On 2/24/2003 Farid
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I would ask Howard why the cones don't float away. I'm curious too.
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BMI /BMs/Gravity
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On 2/24/2003
Geezer-X
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I watched what I ate, worked out, practiced, bought good gear, then the other day when I was practicing, I rode off the edge of the flat earth, and lost my new Turner into outer space...If there was no gravity, why don't cones float away?
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Weight
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On 2/24/2003
Mike Maysey
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Gravity doesn't exist either.
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Weight
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On 2/24/2003
CKnuck
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I don't think weight has anything to do with Slalom racing, advantage or disadvantage. There is no way I am as fast as I was in the the mid to late 80's and early 90's.
The equipment is better. No not my bodies equipment but the equipment I ride. Evans at one time was likely the fastest US Slalom racer other then Korten. Neither one of them is very heavy, neither is Charlie.
Don't forget to take age into account. Some guys are a little heavier then they were 10 to 20 years ago. I don't think weight carries any - or + affects it's skill, fitness, equipment and experience for now.
Things will change, though.
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Typos
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On 2/22/2003 WT
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There's a few in the BMI post. Get over it or have a cow, man. They change nothing.
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What is a "BMI?"
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On 2/22/2003
Wesley Tucker
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I've used the phrase "BMI" several times and realized it might be a bit of a mystery. It is quite simply the "Boby Mass Index." It is used by physicians and clinicians to determine whether or not a persons height to weight ratio is proportionate, overweight or too thin.
The calculation is also rather simple: find the square of your height (H x H) Then take your weight and multiply it by 703 (W x 703) Then divide the weight into your height. (W X 703) / (H * H)
Example: I am 6'2" tall. (74 inches) (74 x 74 = 5476.) My weight is currently 175 pounds (175 x 703 = 123025 ) So, 123024 / 5476 = 22.46 or a BMI of 22.5.
The recommended BMI by the Center for Disease Control and the National Institutes of Health are as follows:
18 - below = underweight 18-25 = average 25-32 = overweight 32 - 36 = Obese 36 - above = morbidly obese, probably won't see your next birthday.
P.S. And in case you're wondering where that "703" comes from, it has something to do with calculating in English as opposed to metric. If you know your metric height and weight, then the calculation is simpler:
(Weight in kiligrams) / (H x H in METERS.) My height in meters is 1.86 and I think my weight is around 79 Kg. That ((79)/(1.86 x 1.86)) = 22.76 or a BMI of 23. Pick whichever one you want.
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Weight a minute!
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On 2/22/2003
Wesley Tucker
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John,
I got on the scales right after reading your rather tepid attempt at humor. My scales, which by the way are of German manufacture and therefore infallible, say I weigh 175 this morning. That's down ten pounds since Morro Bay.
Are you saying you outweigh me by 11 pounds? Something's really amiss here. And don't give me that "muscle weighs more than fat" stuff. My BMI right now is down to 22.5. Not fabulous, but certainly not corpulent by any means.
Geez, man, what have you done with yourself this winter? Are you dating an Italian girl? Do you come home every night to huge platters of lasagna and garlic bread? Perchance, should I consider buying stock in Sealtest Ice Cream?
(One of the fun things about morphing from a fat, blubbery slob into a svelte well-proportioned hunk of male beef cake is getting snide with all those still counting calories!)
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"Do I look fat?"
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On 2/22/2003 John Gilmour
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186lbs
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mmmm
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On 2/21/2003 Henry J
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I weigh 162 pounds, eat pizza, and boil my hot dogs.
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Hot Dogs
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On 2/21/2003 Tyrone Jenkins
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What is the best way to cook a hotdog ?
Microwave, Boiling,Grilling or on the stove in a pan .
And would you use butter ?
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