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On 3/25/2003 matt (vasocreta)
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thanks, Mike and JG. Your posts are most helpful. I am planning to learn to apply what I have learned so far to my stiff Comet Race Narrow. Moving to this deck should help me to recognize very quickly my weak points in the current technique that I employ.
I will keep you posted on how it all works out.
Thanks again.
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How to pump
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On 3/25/2003 John Gilmour
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Dan Gesmer has a great description of how to pump called "power turning aka gryrating aka pumping". I asked him to post it. He is at seismicsk8.com. First things first. I like my wheels to stick out from the board at least 1/2 and inch and slightly wider for GS boards. I do not like radiused wheels for sliding in a race course, though for just cruising downhill they are fine. A straight edged wheel will grab much harder in a slide and resume traction much quicker when brought out of the slide, this is like putting the brakes late in a turn but intensely so you spend less time braking and more time going forward which translates into a faster run. Inside radiused wheels can break into a slide which can be abrupt and hard to halt. I saw some people ar the West LA College course go into a slide and actually end up backwards because they could not stop the slide.
As for the arm movements I would like to reduce the my amount of arm movement. All turning should come from the waist down. Any twisting of the torso is counter productive. The one area where this logic gets tossed out is when you are trying to pump from a slow speed. Pumping gives you speed anhd you can pump on flat ground and even up a hill without ever touching your feet to the ground. With practice you can pump 10mph or more- even over 20mph. It is tiring and it can be a whole body movement or you can isolate different parts of your body to pump.
I used to pump for about 2 miles non stop on the Night skates in Boston and pump on and off again for the other 14 miles. If you switch body parts to pump from time to time you can reduce fatigue.
The basic concept is similar to that of the locomotion of a snake. The front foot and rear foot are turning slightly out of phase. When you are turning right with your front foot your back foot is "pushing" the board laterally left and vice versa. There are several different styles of pumping as well. See Chris' pumping video and martins pumping video on chrischaput.com. The Karate chop analogy is a good one as the hand strike should coincide with apex of the turn to load the wheels with extra weight to gain traction when they need it the most. The Italians use this like crazy.
pumping really confuses spectators as they can not figure out where the speed is coming from. I do not know of any other sport where you can generate speed "mysteriously" like this.
In the movie "Freewheeling" you can see many differennt pumping styles in effect. Vince Turner, Bob Turner's brother uses a knees together technique with a very static uppper body with arm movements. Stacey Peralta uses the technique favored by the Swiss slalomers using his front foot for steering and riding on the ball of the rear foot for accenting power and traction to the wheels at the apex of the turn. This enables Stacey to ride a very narrow board and truck and wheel combo which is advantageous for the both tight slalom and very offset courses. Henry Hester used a very powerful hip and ankle driven technique- really good for steep courses and for courses that require stop and go braking. Bobby Piercy uses a modified ski technique effective for both quick turning in mogul skiing and skateboard slalom where his feet are nearly parallel and he steps and counter puches from foot to foot. You will notice that Bobby's navel is almost perfectly stationary and just floats in a straight line over the shortest average distance between the cones- while his knees jet from side to side. Almost all of Bobby's quick action comes from the ankles and knees. His hands only serve to stabilize his insanely high speed movements and generate no downforce ,he tries to keep his hand positioning lower to maintain a low center of gravity. This also allows his to use his hands for balance when he drives his hips wide to either the left or right to make an offset gate. The Europeans now feel the surf style stance is fastest, but still some ride parallel stance- I still am not sure which is faser. In a course that gets tight I will change from surf style to a parallel stance while riding and back again if the course opens up.
Jani Soderhall 7 time slalom champ of Sweden 3 time world champion- uses Stacy Peralta's stance coupled with a rotary swinging of the arms which coincides with the apex of each turn- this gives him almost unlimited traction for heavily offset gates and affords him the needed balance when he displaces his body far to the right or left. Indeed so of the still photos of him show him in nearly impoossible positions with is body nearly lateral and bent in an extreme stetched s shape. Truly amazing to watch. I can't get into those positions when supporting myself on a couch! No wonder his girlfriend never leaves him! Jani's style allows him very fast acceleration from a near standstill and the ability to do super offset tight cones. I do not know how this works at very high speeds, but it looks good. You can hear the Urethane tearing at the pavement when he rides. The Italians ride in a crouched position with a rasied heel and their bodies span abruptly from turn to turn. They appear to make "Z" turns from cone to cone and are very fast as a result. They ride super hard 95a or harder wheels and narrow tall trucks (very high cg) and stiff and narrow boards with kicktails. They ride boards by Indiana skates. I would not reccomend this style to a beginner. Very few people have figured out how they do it. The Latvians and Estonians use a lot of hand swinging, more than other skaters- most likely because they train on flat ground only and have to accelerate as quickly as possible.
The Russians ride with an aggressive forward stance and strain at the neck to drag the rest of the body forward. Dan Gesmer has seen this and could comment.
To learn how to pump well you should be good at pumping with each joint. So once you have figured out how to pump -try pumping using just your ankles, then pump using just your knees, then just your torso, then just your arms, and then just your hips. When you recombine all of them again you will be able to go much faster- it just requires identifing your weakness and fixing them.
I have a ton of slalom mags to scan in and a few videos- I had a lot of server space, but now that is gone. Anyone want to host the footage?Using Seismic 110's with silver springs makes learning to pump a breeze. Other good trucks for learning to pump are Bennetts and California Slaloms as they are very quick turning. The easiest board to learn to pump on is the original Henry Hester Fibreflex decks. Shorter boards are easier to learn to pump on. Longer boards can be pumped at faster speeds.
Smaller wheels are easier to pump on as well. Find a good smooth high traction surface and cut loose.
and a got tip from Jesse
On 6/13/2001 Jesse Hunt wrote in from 206.171.xxx.xxx:
Learning How to Pump/Propel a Skateboard
Duane,
I can’t speak for anyone else, but this is the easiest way that I have figured out how to teach people how to pump.
1)Get a short board with a tail.
2)Put your back foot on the tail.
3)Push down the tail and start “Tacking” back and forth (lift the front wheels off the ground and swing your front foot from side to side)
4)Now you are propelling yourself without pushing. You’re cheating because you’re using the tail, but you are learning the BODY MOTION required to propel yourself.
5)Try to do the TIGHTEST and QUICKEEST tacks possible to get going as fast as you can. Pretend you are racing someone.
6)Make sure your trucks are super loose and slowly start to put your front wheels back on the ground. Kind of drag/slide/skim your front wheels on the ground back and forth.
7)As you start to put your front wheels on the ground, simultaneously bring your back foot off of the tail and put it over the trucks.
8)Whenever you think you’ve lost the feeling, start tacking again and the body motion will come back.
9)Do this for a while and then move to a slalom or longboard. Get going a medium speed and then start doing the tacking motion with your body even though all your wheels are on the ground. If it feels impossible at first, go back to tacking on the shortboard to get the feeling again.
10)Keep this in mind: It’s easier to begin pumping when you’re already going a medium speed. If you’re going to slow, it will be very difficult. If you’re going to fast, you will be slowing yourself down.
11)Your front foot is leading your back foot by a split second. You initiate the turn with your front foot and finish the pump with your back foot.
12)Another extremely helpful exercise is to isolate EACH FOOT.
13)Get off your skateboard and stand on the ground. Stand on your back foot only and swing your front leg back and forth like you’re kicking a soccer ball. Pretend you’re a soccer player or field goal kicker warming up. Swing your leg back and forth. This is by far the best exercise for learning this technique.
14)Now get back on your slalom board, get going a medium speed, and start swinging your front foot back and forth like you’re warming up to kick the field goal. You should start to propel yourself a little. Don’t over swing or over tilt your ankle because you will slow yourself down. Keep it TIGHT and QUICK. Swing your leg more than you tilt your ankle.
15)Now repeat that exercise with your back leg. Get off your skateboard again, stand on your front foot and start swinging your back leg back and forth (field goal kicker). Get back on the skateboard, don’t even move or think about moving your front foot, and start swinging your back foot back and forth, TIGHT and QUICK.
16)isolate and practice each leg by itself. After a while you will start to notice that the swinging of your back leg follows the swinging of your front leg a split second later. It’s as if your back leg is falling into formation right after your front leg. Front foot LEADS, back foot FOLLOWS.
17)Another good exercise is to stand on the ground, hold your arms out at your sides, and twist your torso back and forth. This is how your upper body moves when you’re propelling yourself. Your legs just fall into place.
I hope this has helped you and other skaers learn this technique. It took me a while to get it, but once I did, my skateboard control grew by leaps and bounds.
Email me and let me know if this works or helps.
Peace,
Jesse
and further more....blah blah blah...
Dan Gesmer has a great description of how to pump called "power turning aka gryrating aka pumping". I asked him to post it. He is at seismicsk8.com. First things first. I like my wheels to stick out from the board at least 1/2 and inch and slightly wider for GS boards. I do not like radiused wheels for sliding in a race course, though for just cruising downhill they are fine. A straight edged wheel will grab much harder in a slide and resume traction much quicker when brought out of the slide, this is like putting the brakes late in a turn but intensely so you spend less time braking and more time going forward which translates into a faster run. Inside radiused wheels can break into a slide which can be abrupt and hard to halt. I saw some people ar the West LA College course go into a slide and actually end up backwards because they could not stop the slide.
As for the arm movements I would like to reduce the my amount of arm movement. All turning should come from the waist down. Any twisting of the torso is counter productive. The one area where this logic gets tossed out is when you are trying to pump from a slow speed. Pumping gives you speed anhd you can pump on flat ground and even up a hill without ever touching your feet to the ground. With practice you can pump 10mph or more- even over 20mph. It is tiring and it can be a whole body movement or you can isolate different parts of your body to pump.
I used to pump for about 2 miles non stop on the Night skates in Boston and pump on and off again for the other 14 miles. If you switch body parts to pump from time to time you can reduce fatigue.
The basic concept is similar to that of the locomotion of a snake. The front foot and rear foot are turning slightly out of phase. When you are turning right with your front foot your back foot is "pushing" the board laterally left and vice versa. There are several different styles of pumping as well. See Chris' pumping video and martins pumping video on chrischaput.com. The Karate chop analogy is a good one as the hand strike should coincide with apex of the turn to load the wheels with extra weight to gain traction when they need it the most. The Italians use this like crazy.
Pumping really confuses spectators as they can not figure out where the speed is coming from. I do not know of any other sport where you can generate speed "mysteriously" like this.
In the movie "Freewheeling" you can see many differennt pumping styles in effect. Vince Turner, Bob Turner's brother uses a knees together technique with a very static uppper body with arm movements. Stacey Peralta uses the technique favored by the Swiss slalomers using his front foot for steering and riding on the ball of the rear foot for accenting power and traction to the wheels at the apex of the turn. This enables Stacey to ride a very narrow board and truck and wheel combo which is advantageous for the both tight slalom and very offset courses. Henry Hester used a very powerful hip and ankle driven technique- really good for steep courses and for courses that require stop and go braking. Bobby Piercy uses a modified ski technique effective for both quick turning in mogul skiing and skateboard slalom where his feet are nearly parallel and he steps and counter puches from foot to foot. You will notice that Bobby's navel is almost perfectly stationary and just floats in a straight line over the shortest average distance between the cones- while his knees jet from side to side. Almost all of Bobby's quick action comes from the ankles and knees. His hands only serve to stabilize his insanely high speed movements and generate no downforce ,he tries to keep his hand positioning lower to maintain a low center of gravity. This also allows his to use his hands for balance when he drives his hips wide to either the left or right to make an offset gate. The Europeans now feel the surf style stance is fastest, but still some ride parallel stance- I still am not sure which is faser. In a course that gets tight I will change from surf style to a parallel stance while riding and back again if the course opens up.
Jani Soderhall 7 time slalom champ of Sweden 3 time world champion- uses Stacy Peralta's stance coupled with a rotary swinging of the arms which coincides with the apex of each turn- this gives him almost unlimited traction for heavily offset gates and affords him the needed balance when he displaces his body far to the right or left. Indeed so of the still photos of him show him in nearly impoossible positions with is body nearly lateral and bent in an extreme stetched s shape. Truly amazing to watch. I can't get into those positions when supporting myself on a couch! No wonder his girlfriend never leaves him! Jani's style allows him very fast acceleration from a near standstill and the ability to do super offset tight cones. I do not know how this works at very high speeds, but it looks good. You can hear the Urethane tearing at the pavement when he rides. The Italians ride in a crouched position with a rasied heel and their bodies span abruptly from turn to turn. They appear to make "Z" turns from cone to cone and are very fast as a result. They ride super hard 95a or harder wheels and narrow tall trucks (very high cg) and stiff and narrow boards with kicktails. They ride boards by Indiana skates. I would not reccomend this style to a beginner. Very few people have figured out how they do it. The Latvians and Estonians use a lot of hand swinging, more than other skaters- most likely because they train on flat ground only and have to accelerate as quickly as possible.
The Russians ride with an aggressive forward stance and strain at the neck to drag the rest of the body forward. Dan Gesmer has seen this and could comment.
To learn how to pump well you should be good at pumping with each joint. So once you have figured out how to pump -try pumping using just your ankles, then pump using just your knees, then just your torso, then just your arms, and then just your hips. When you recombine all of them again you will be able to go much faster- it just requires identifing your weakness and fixing them.
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What Next?
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On 3/25/2003
mike maysey
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1) Where does the power actually derive from in the pump?
For me...power comes from a downward motion that I use to drive my board into the ground when I bend my knees quickly and allow my body to sort of fall and load up the board. As I do this, I can ankle my board so that the deck catches my falling weight and flexes. I hold through the turn as long as I need to and push down against the board until I completely pump through the turn. At this point my body is totally unweighted and just sort of coasting until I bend my knees again and start it over again.
I have seen guys who use their arms, who don't really use their arms, etc generate some really powerful pumps.
To my recollection, the fastest guys utilize a lot of upper body motion. Here's a good example. I raced at Shoreline on Sunday. I hadn't been riding any flatland slalom for quite a while. After racing for a few hours, the next morning my sorest body parts were my shoulders. I swing my arms a lot when trying to generate speed. So does Gary Holl who beat me 3 out of 4 runs on Sunday.
2) How much of a role does equipment play in allowing the rider to pump harder and faster? I learned to pump on a road Rider Tranist--a snappy, thin deck, very easy to ride.
Equipment plays a big role. Get yourself a stiffer ride and good wheels. Also get some trucks made for slalom.
3) When looking at videos, I see top riders use their arms in a motion that is seemingly side-to-side--like a pendelum, however, I have found that the only way I can pump is to adapt the physics used by a toy from the 80's called a Roller Racer. So, my body moves more in a rotational motion, around my pelvis. Throwing in arm movement is VERY uncomfortable with this motion. Is this just a comfort thing, that will just change with practice? or do have the rotational motion thing just all wrong?
I think you answered your own questions....you should actually try to adapt your skating somewhat to someone you know or can skate with who has a good technique and try to do what they do. Don't worry, you won't start skating like them because your interpretation of what they're doing won't look anything like them. I skated with Paul Dunn almost all last season and we skate very different. I learned from watching him and trying o do what he was doing. As I learned what worked best for me, I began to change it to fit and feel better for me. That's where I am now. I've actually been concentrating on my arms much more lately than ever. I'm trying to make my motions equal from side to side. i feel that if I can do this that my pump will not be one sided but a balance of power from my heelside to my toeside.
Is that long winded blather or what?
Hope it helps...email me direct if I haven't helped.
See you at the Lake...
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Play?
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On 3/25/2003
mike maysey
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Rene-
i used to play the trumpet. Recently, I've been thinking of picking it back up again so I could play for some ska band or maybe a swing band.
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Dust and Bearings
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On 3/24/2003
Pat Chewning
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You can clean your bearings when they get full of grit. Take a look at the instructions for maintaining bearings at:
http://www.edsbearings.com/faqbearings.html
Ed's Bearings (Pleasure Tool Bearings) are a great value. Many people buy both sealed and sheilded bearings then reassemble the bearings so that the inside surface has the sheild and the outside surface has the seal. This supposedly gives a good compromise of speed and resistance to grit. I am with Mike though, I can't tell the difference amongst the many types of bearings, except for price and the difference between clean vs dirty bearings.
My recommendation: Buy the best "value" of bearings, get a cleaning kit, and occasionally clean them.
-- Pat
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Back to pumping
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On 3/24/2003
matt (vasocreta)
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This past week I was in FL, and things sort of clicked. Then, WA-LA, I was pumping!! What a great feeling.
Now, after 4 days of pumping in FL, I came to a road block: I have no idea what to do next! What I mean by this is that I am clueless as to what I need to do differently in order to generate significant power from those pumps. Perpetual motion is great, but it is not really all that good at only 4-6 miles per hour.
So my questions:
1) Where does the power actually derive from in the pump? I have seen guys who use their arms, who don't really use their arms, etc generate some really powerful pumps.
2) How much of a role does equipment play in allowing the rider to pump harder and faster? I learned to pump on a road Rider Tranist--a snappy, thin deck, very easy to ride.
3) When looking at videos, I see top riders use their arms in a motion that is seemingly side-to-side--like a pendelum, however, I have found that the only way I can pump is to adapt the physics used by a toy from the 80's called a Roller Racer. So, my body moves more in a rotational motion, around my pelvis. Throwing in arm movement is VERY uncomfortable with this motion. Is this just a comfort thing, that will just change with practice? or do have the rotational motion thing just all wrong?
Sorry that this is so lengthy, but I am trying to get good so that one day I can race Mike Maysey! :-)
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Paleontolic melodies
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On 3/23/2003 W. Tucker
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Ummmm, The Blue Velvets?
Oh, I bet you mean CCR?
(Even McCarthyites like a little acid with their vitriol now and then.)
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Hey Joe
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On 3/23/2003 slappy
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The Leaves version can be found on THE essential box set "Nuggets: Original Artyfacts From The First Psychedelic Era"
The set would be better classified now as garage rock than psychedelic. It is a MUST have for any collection.
It has classics like "Pushin' Too Hard" by the Seeds, "Psychotic Reaction" by Count Five. The reissue has an additional fourth disc with popular stuff like "Wooly Bully" and "Louie Louie".
The Golliwogs are also on it...Who can name the moniker this group became famous under?
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The Leaves.....@ The Bandbox !
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On 3/22/2003
Rene' Carrasco
wrote in from
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Mike-
I dug the Leaves. In 1966 they played here-Garden Grove, at "The Bandbox" which was a shack in front of an Orange Grove @ Chapman & Harbour Blvd; Sorta like the
"Doll Hut" of it's time - small place but packed with people when bands played.
The bands were introduced by Sherrif Dillenbaugh, who was always tucking in his shirt - he was a big guy.
Trippy huh?
BTW - the Indian was my favorite in the Leaves.
Mike -Do you play in a band or instruments?
I think skateboarding and music go great together.
...............-Rene' Carrasco.
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Biker
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On 3/22/2003
Mike Maysey
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I think Biker also owns or co-owns Dregs...which would mean he has another job as a business owner...so Biker also has a regular job.
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Hey Joes
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On 3/22/2003
Mike Maysey
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Hey Joe - Introduction
"Hey Joe", a traditional song performed by many artists. Sometimes credited to Billy Roberts. Sometimes credited to Chet (or Chester) Powers a.k.a. Jesse Oris Farrow, née Dino Valente
who became the lead singer of Quicksilver Messenger Service.
The first group to record "Hey Joe" was the Surfaris in 1965. In 1965 "Hey Joe" was recorded by The Leaves as well. In 1966 they recorded it again with a fuzztone guitar sound. Also the Byrds, Love, Shadows of Night, Warlocks and many other bands recorded the song in 1966.
A Japanese group called the Golden Cups recorded a version in 1966 that adapted the song to different cultural standards.
Tim Rose recorded "Hey Joe" in 1966, one month before the Leaves' version entered the charts. Rose played the song at less than half the tempo. He changed the key of the song to E instead of A. Rose also roared out the verses, and added his own variant on their structure.
Jimi Hendrix picked up this version of "Hey Joe" and made a European hit out of it in 1967.
Since then many other great guitar players have performed this song.
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I thought everyone else copied Hendrix
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On 3/22/2003
Mike Maysey
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I'm going to do some research and get to the bottom of this.
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Hey Joe...
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On 3/22/2003
Mike Maysey
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I know and listen to lots of music from before my time.
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Brady and Hendrix......
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On 3/21/2003
Rene' Carrasco
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Brady -
.........Hendrix is Awesome....
....HIS version of "Hey Joe" was a remake....though.
.................-Rene' Carrasco.
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Hey Joe...
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On 3/21/2003 Brady
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C`mon now Rene`, you can`t be too old to know who Hendrix is? The phrase in the song has more to do with smack and mainlining than war. But maybe Mike might be to young to know that?
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sunset
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On 3/21/2003
david
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mike, btw, the sunset is always dead, not just at night, a killer place to skate.
check out my site for listings of other roads in the sunest....www.geocities.com/sk8sanfran
come to think of it, the only person i can think of who makes a fair amount of money in slalom/downhill is biker sherlock, and the only way he did that was by whoring himself to toy companies.......
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Thanks John
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On 3/21/2003
Mike Maysey
wrote in from
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I'll give you a 10 cone head start!! : )
See you Sunday...David Price and I went out skating last night in the Sunset District and there are some sick hills. Quintara and many others with good pitch and great surfaces. You have to wait until about 11pm though so you don't have to worry about cars or buses. It's really cool to skate to the bottom of the hill and take the train back up and do it again.
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What do Pro's Do?
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On 3/21/2003
Mike Maysey
wrote in from
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Tyler,
Pro's make so much money from all the sponsorship support...it's flowing from their pores!!! My sponsors send me to all the most exotic slalom spots in the world to skate and show off the sport. Then when I get back, they hire servents to wait on me in my manison in the sky.
Just kidding...I have a regular job as do most, if not all, the other riders who race on the tour. The only difference, at this point, between pro and open riders is the fact that pro riders race for money and open riders race for product. At this point, nobody is making enough money off this sport to make a living at it...not even the one's that are winning consistantly.
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mike's birthday
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On 3/21/2003
john airey
wrote in from
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Mike,
my condolences on your 31st. Have you started listening
to KKSF 103.7 yet? I think I started hearing it on
my car radio around then....
Bush started a war on your birthday? Bin Laden started one
on mine!
I am trying to convince my 5 year old that on flat ground,
going downwind (20kt wind),
I have a chance against you since the
whole weight/drag thing works in reverse. He is not
buying it, he has studied the slalom DVDs...
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What do pro's do?
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On 3/21/2003
Tyler
wrote in from
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Hey I was wondering if being pro is a full time thing, do you have another job or do you just ride. Does your sponsers pay for everything. I was just wondering if this is a big enough sport that you can make a living going to the contests if you are good enough. I Am from Cambria and there seems to be alot of races around here.
Tyler
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dusty roads, safe money
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On 3/21/2003
Joe Leonhardt
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Thank you for the hint !
Can't change our roads, but I can change my bearings...
I have changed my *+#' bearings with a new set of MOC 9 - now I have changed it again... no problem I have a set of red Bones left.
Thanks again,
Joe
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Hey Joe ! Where Ya Goin....
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On 3/21/2003
Rene' Carrasco
wrote in from
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Mike -
....is that a line from "Hey Joe !" by the band LOVE ?
Alot of bands were playing that song in the famous -
"Band Battles" of the 1960's !!!
"House of the Rising Sun" and "Gloria" were also big favorites.
....just askin'....."BOO-BIP-BIP BOO-BIP-BIP YEAH!!!"
See ya @ Lake Elsinore.........-Rene' TEAM CARRASCO.
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bearings
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On 3/21/2003
Mike Maysey
wrote in from
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Hey Joe,
Where you going with that gun in your hand?
OOPS...that just slipped out.
Bearings...lets see. I have no experience with dust resistant bearings. I didn't even know there was such a thing.
So far, I'm not convinced that bearings are any different. I have many different kinds of bearings in my collection of stuff including Bones Reds, Turner ABEC 5's, Turner Ceramics and OUST 7's and I'll be honest...I can't tell the difference between any of them. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong...but as I say...I cannot tell the difference between cheap and expensive bearings. Other than the fact that I refuse to spend a lot of money on bearings...for the fact that they are too easily worked.
For dusty roads, I'd slap in some Bones Reds...they're cheap, roll fast out of the box and if they get messed up you can just buy another set for about $15US.
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dust & bearings
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On 3/21/2003
Joe Leonhardt
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Do you have experience with dust resistance bearings ?
I have just got a problem with one of my OUST 9 sets.
Which bearing is best for dusty roads ans slalom ?
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Thanks Rene
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On 3/21/2003
Mike Maysey
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Thanks for the B-Day Wish!! Too bad Bush had to make a war that day though...
See you at the Lake...Mike
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