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| Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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holl/roeracing
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On 5/22/2003
john airey
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hey mike, now holl is roe racing and not team turner
can we have the team maysey vs team holl challenge now?
holl maysey
miko ravitch
hut reese
oyama ??
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could be good. anything above the airport is team maysey,
anything below is team holl. (sorry gary, you get me).
one parking lot race, one hill race (but not john shelley
drive, please!)
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SFGF Revisited
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On 5/19/2003
Maria C.
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Richy and I just watched 2 of the 5 reels I shot at the Gravity Fest event tonight. Just like being there again . . . some very cool action -- alot of racers were really rippin it up! Will be making a video on this one for sure. Also will try to post some grabs after I get some stuff in the computer . . . it all takes so much time and the events just keep coming!!!!! Thanks David for the latest round of stills and your "review" of the race.
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GGP Today?
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On 5/18/2003
mike maysey
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Hey guys, I'm going to cut outta here in a bit to GGP. I'm planning on setting some tight. I'll probably be on the hill by 11:30am...sorry I missed the Tornado last night. Once I got home after my 'butt plant' at the Peidmont park and then 4 runs on Tunnel...couch was all I wanted.
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SF Gravity Fest
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On 5/18/2003
mike maysey
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David...thanks for putting up those pics. I happen to like that one of you where you're only half in the frame. It's an interesting shot to look at. I won't tell you when we skated yesterday. I will tell you the name of the road starts with 'T' and it's a pretty long and mellow downhill run. Clayton and I ran into a group of guys who are friends with Dan from SF Longboarding. We sessioned with those guys for a while and had a blast. See you soon...
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SF race pics
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On 5/17/2003
david
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finally got some pics up from the GS race 2 weeks ago, check it out at:
www.geocities.com/sk8sanfran/SFGS
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Session Tunnel
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On 5/17/2003 sully
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Hey, before the tractor beam sucks us into the Tornado how about some DH action?
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When I learned to pump
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On 5/17/2003 Wesley Tucker
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I learned to pump by accident. In June, 1976 I upgraded my four-month old 27" Bahne from Da' Kines (which were about as resilient as granite,) to brand-spanking new Road Rider 4s. Not only was this a tremendous increase in speed and traction, it was also my first precision bearing wheel.
Anyway, I remember it well: about 10:00 on a Saturday morning, I got home from the bike shop where I had just got my RRs. By 10:30 I was out on my hill and riding these new wonders. I decided to literally "push" my RRs harder than I had ever pushed the Cadillacs. I figued if I slid out and bailed, what the hell? It was worth the pain to find out what these suckers could do.
Instead of sliding out, though, I accelerated out of the turn across the road. So, that's what all those guys in Skateboarder were talking about? I spent the rest of the day PUMPING down the hill. By the end of that summer I was "cross country" pumping my neighborhood street at distances of 3 miles or more two or three times a day. Yeah, I was skinny as a rail with 4% body far. Those were the days!
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switching to pump
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On 5/16/2003 psYch0Lloyd
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...and can ya guess where he learned that one from?
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Pumping Switch
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On 5/16/2003 Michael
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Dan Gesmer can! its on his video clip "Four wheels down"
Cant remember where it is on line though.
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SWITCH PUMPING
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On 5/16/2003 WITNESS
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CLAYTON,
SGT. HOLL RUNS SHORELINE AND GGP SWITCH.
I WOULD BET THE DAN GESSMER COULD PUMP ANY COURSE
BACKWARDS AS WELL AS SWITCH.
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switch pumping
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On 5/16/2003
Clayton
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can anyone pump switch?
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Pumping
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On 5/16/2003
mike maysey
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Hey John, Thanks for dropping by...I think a video clip is a great idea. Adam, what do you think?
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We're here to "PUMP- (clap) YOU UP!"- hanz and franz, SNL
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On 5/16/2003 John Gilmour
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I learned to pump from tic tacking. Hey Mike how about asking Adam N to put up a video clip of the progression of how to pump? After all- this is the "ask the pro forum"....and I think this is the question most newer skaters to slalom want to know the answer to.
First show a clip of tic taking- then show the movement of the arms hips and legs- then show how this transistions into a pump.
I gave up tic tacking when I was 10 when I raced a kid who could pump faster than I could tic tack. Transitioning over to pumping took a few days on really turny flexy gear.
First I learned to just pump- then I learned to pump in circles- then I learned "the gearing" of pumping and how to switch gears from low end to mid end to high end speeds. I learned how to pump from a complete standstill once I got better at it.
By the end of the month I was pumping pretty fast.
Mike-If you do nothing else with this forum- do this. A video clip would help get a lot more people racing- and you should showcase your high end pump- one of the fastest I have seen.
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Tic Tac
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On 5/14/2003
mike maysey
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Hey ToddC
I skate some of the parks around here from time to time. I don't recall seeing many if any of the younger kids with the 'tic tac.' I only called it that because that's what we used to call it in 'my' day. Like it was sooooooo, long ago right? hehe
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tic tac
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On 5/14/2003 toddc
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Mike, good note on learning to pump. Back when I learned to ride 75-76, tic taking, or what we called "kick turning" formed the foundations of "knowing how to skateboard". If you could kick turn, you could ride. That led directly into an interest in slalom (the adaptation you mentioned) bank riding, freestyle and bowlriding for most.
Do the young guys tic tac anymore as a beginner move or did the ollie change that too?
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mollica dvd
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On 5/14/2003 hc
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http://www.turnerdownhill.com/mollica-dvd.html
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dinky town
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On 5/14/2003 hc
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hey mike, i grew up in south San Jose, lots of kids skated in my neighborhood in the mid 80's boom, but i only saw one kid, a surfer, rode the sidewalk of my street with style, he would pump in and out of driveways like he was pumping a wave.
the image of his smooth pumps have always stuck in my mind, but it had to take another 15 years for me to eventually discover slalom. But i am glad i know how now.
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Pumping...
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On 5/14/2003
mike maysey
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a little story just occurred to me...
I was able to pick up pumping rather quickly. I think I can attribute it so my days riding 80's style street skates. (And watching PD...but I talked about that in my last post.) As a kid, I always wanted to be a surfer. Problem was, I lived over 30 mintes (by car) from the beach, so I was basically stranded. Standed in a dinky little one horse town on the central coast of California called Templeton. I had no choice, I skated. When I skated, I was a surfer. In my town, there weren't any parks, no ramps, no pools, nothing...there were short hills to bomb and get speed wobbles. There were parking blocks, curbs, a gazeebo, a couple banks, and a cannon(yeah a cannon). Anyway, my friends used to roust me for skating like a surfer. They say, "You're flowing, dude." When I'd slash a grind off a curb. Anyway, a lot of times, rather than pushing with my foot or kicking, I'd 'tic tac.' I imagined I was riding down the face of a wave. Now, if you 'tic tac' you'll eventually start to push your weight into it. Soon, you'll find yourself staying at the same speed or even speeding up. Get good at that. This is the motion you'll use when you're pumping on your slalom board.
Try this out...get on your street board. I prefer a big board. I've got a Deathbox Jay Adams that is very similar in size to the boards I grew up on in the 80's. Anyway, take out your street board and start to 'tic tac' all over the place. Once you figure out that motion, I suspect it might take a few sessions of 'tic tac'ing. Now, get on your slalom board and take that motion you learned while on your street board to a flat parking lot or a slight incine and start making turns on your slalom board but use the motion you learned on your street board. Visualize yourself 'tic tac'ing but keeping your front truck on the ground. Shouldn't be too hard since most slalom boards have no tail. So, loosen your trucks a little and go for it.
Hope this helps a little more.
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Pumping
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On 5/14/2003
Hamm
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Mr Sidlo, I find it interesting that you speak of the Circle Technique. Continous pumping in circles of different radius' is something that Maurus Strobel taught Marc DuPaul. By learning to pump in a circle, you inherently learn how to double-pump between gates/cones. Its something that I don't practice near enough. Oh thats right, I don't practice at all...............
I think its easier to learn on a gradual slope. Take a couple rides down the slope so you know how fast your going. After you get a feel for your max speed going straight down the slope, start making little mini or 1/4 continuous carves back and forth off the fall line. After a while you should find yourself going faster than when you just went straight. If you don't, then tighten up the turns/carves and put a little 'flick' in your ankles and you will. Before long you'll find yourself pumping uphill!!!
Remember that pumping is a 'Full-Body' exercise: as your upper body goes, you lower half will follow.( i learnt that from Chaput)
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learning how to pump...
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On 5/14/2003 psYch0Lloyd
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Michael Jung: Mike Masey and Hung Chang have a very good point. Watching other people in action would serve as a very good start to learning the techniques. Trying to learn it on your own will prove to be very difficult but not altogether impossible. The worst thing you could do is to learn the wrong technique and have to dispose of all of your preconceptions only to have to relearn it correctly, as you should have done in the first place. And always take someone’s statements about pumping with a grain of salt, what works for him or her might not necessarily work for you.
I have had to “discover” pumping on my own because nobody seemed to know about it in my area as I was growing up. I found that by going over little bumps on the sidewalk I would gain some momentum on the other side. When I used that same “roller coaster” method to kick out of a turn it occurred to me that I was deriving some energy from this motion. Going over to a larger flat area I started to scoot around in circles. First going toe-side (facing toward the inside of the circle) then going heel-side (facing out). You can push yourself to start then try to kick out the turns sliding your front wheels on the ground at first until you get the hang of jamming through the turns without lifting the front of the board. You will find that you can go on continuously making circles this way for a long time. Next try to connect the circles so they form a figure eight, one with you going toe-side and the next with you going heel-side. Don’t worry too much about technique at first you will derive your own style in time. Overthinking the whole process can be more of a hindrance than is necessary.
I know of the article on the web you speak of, that guy really went overboard in nomenclature department. He made something so simple and fluid seem complex… articulated in the language of dance. If you ever saw this guy in action you would understand what I mean.
Take a moment and cruise around with the awareness of how the board reacts to your actions. It will come to you and you won’t even have to try. Crouch down and carve a little, have fun as if you were a kid again. Don’t be so hard on yourself and the pump will reveal itself to you a little at a time.
Knucklehead Racing Team
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Pumping
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On 5/14/2003
mike maysey
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Hichael, take the words of HC...the way I learned primarily was watching and trying to imitate. Don't take this the wrong way, but I or anyone can explain to you all day long how to pump. The best thing to do is watch, attempt, watch some more, attempt again...and so on. Where do you live? Maybe you could come out and skate sometime and you can watch and learn from guys like Clayton Scott, Sully, Ravich and maybe even me.
It ain't easy, but then again if it were too easy it would be boring.
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video
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On 5/14/2003 hc
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michael, nebulous? know how you feel...
spend some money and pick up kenny mollica's video (coverage of past year's fcr races)
watch and learn.
hc
geocities.com/sk8sanjose/pump ing.html
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Underpants
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On 5/14/2003 Formerly went commando...
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I realized I always needed to uhh..."adjust" things when I was getting ready in the start box, so I put on some tighty whities before the Friday night pre-gathering race, and found that my concentration was improved, as well as my overall comfort level. From now on, at least at the races, it's underpants for me!
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having trouble learning how to pump
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On 5/13/2003
Michael Jung
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I've read directions on how to pump and i've tried visualizing it before each run, but i'm not sure i'm doing it right at all.
I was wondering if there were any video clips you would suggest watching, or if you had any words of wisdom to offer. (the article i read was nebulous at parts)
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I don't wear either
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On 5/13/2003
mike maysey
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I wear compression shorts under my baggies. They really cut down on that inner thigh rash that tends to crop up on hot days...
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