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Messing Around with The Legends
On 3/14/2005 Dankdownhiller wrote in from United States  (67.35.nnn.nnn)

NCL,sorry about the short phone calls on Sun.Had the girls at the park with me and they seem to find everything on the ground that they could throw in the park when I was not looking and any old candy that had been left on the ground.At 2-1/2 and 5 they tend to be a bit on the high strung side.I'll call you tomorrow.If you get a chance I've been messing around with the BLR boys on the slalom site.To be so tuff they are awful touchie!It's all in good fun, figured I would get in on it,besides I don't think I'm in much danger I think the bark is worst than the bite.

 
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Civ2B
On 3/14/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Civ2B...Dude, that sounds like a great hook up on the Big Red X. That is definitely going to be my next board purchase.

If you want some help on the slide gloves let me know. Drop me an email and I will let you know what is working for me ....and what didn't work multiple times. So far the gloves I have made for our crew are holding up well. I am into sliding and an own a third pair and so far I have not had a puck come off, just wear out.

Talk to you soon,

Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies
12 DAYS TO DOWNHILL BILLIES JAM II

 
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DHB Stuff
On 3/14/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Dankdownhiller: Dude, Man I wish I could have gone with you guys to Asheville! Sounds like a big time was had by all. I bet Shannon and Barry were rippin that pro bowl to pieces...DownHill Billies Style.

Dude, my schedule is so messed up with the begging of soccer season but we need to get together with Darren and get the shirts put together. I worked on the website some more this weekend and I PROMISE to have it up by Sunday of this week. Sorry to be so slack but we have had three games a week with the high school plus Hannah's season has started. This week we have games tonight, tomorrow, and Wednesday.
Call me at the office when you get a chance. eight seven one ten thirty-six
Thursday I have to do some training with some players at 5:30 pm for an hour but after that maybe we can go over to Darren's and get things moving. If you get a chance can you call Darren and ask him to call me at work as well? My piece of crap mobile is not lost this time just not FREAKIN Working...again!

Glad you guys had a great time this weekend. Later maters.

North Carolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies

 
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Hooked up
On 3/12/2005 Dankdownhiller wrote in from United States  (67.35.nnn.nnn)

Civ.2B sounds like you got hooked up!! NCL makes a mean slide glove maybe he will hook you up with his technic and materials.They work like a champ for me.I think he even wants a Big Red X.If you are lookin for more boards to add to your quiver I would look at Subsonic out of Portland Scott has some really nice stuff and is a pleasure to work with.Also like I said and NCL we are all fond of the Bozi's.Any more question just ask and I will give you my knowledge (which don't count for much).Thanks and skate safe!!!

 
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thanks
On 3/12/2005 civilian2b wrote in from United States  (140.185.nnn.nnn)

thanks for all the help fellas...

a buddy of mine is giving me The Hookup on a used speedboard complete:


1 big red x deck (the speedboard deck)
1 set 78a 90mm FLywheels
1 Set Randal 2 180s
1 set 75a 70mm Flashbacks
hardware and risers

150 shipped

AND if that wasn't enough, my ebay auctions just ended and once it's all said and done there should be about 150 in my paypal acct waiting for me...i just need to get a set of randal DH's for it and i'll be set.

...the wife is going to be THRILLED when i tell her i'm getting YET another board...:)

now i've gotta get busy making my first pair of sliding gloves.

thanks again for helping me out, i'm sure i've got 1000 more questions that'll come to me further on down the road..

see you on the hills
-justin

 
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Springs And Stuff
On 3/9/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Greg Olson and Civ2B:
My Bozi Mad Bomber II (the same board Dankdownhiller, Darren, and Bandy ride..some of the DHB'ers) is set up with the red springs in the rear on 180 30 degree Seismics and yellow springs on the front 180 45 degrees. I road them stock for a while but played with the tension and with just a little adjustment. Dankdownhiller I think was there but I know Darren was there for sure the day the Troutman Police (extremely cool to us I might ad) clocked me with a gun at 35 mph in the bottom turn on the run we call Top Gun at the Spot and I didn't get any speed wobbles at all. I know I have been faster and didn't get the shakes. The only time my Seismics have felt unstable was when the front retainer clip (at the bottom of the center pin) came off without me knowing it and I bombed Top Gun. The center pin was very very loose and I should have crashed but I guess God was saving that for later. Taught me a big lesson about checking my equipment before I ride.
I think if you are really going for a true speed board set up then you need to go for the Randall DH's. My next board purchase is going to be a Big Red X that I am going to order directly from Chris Chaput and have him set it up. But, again, that Supertanker is made for cruising and I think you will be happy with the turny Randall 180's or the Seismics.
Greg..my Bozi was the first board I ever owned and road with Seismics and I was like you used to forcing a turn rather than letting the trucks do the work.
I think if you go with the red springs front and back you will get closer to the feel you are after but it is still going to be turny. If you go to the Seismic website and drop Dan Gesmer an email he always responds back..some times takes a little while..but he does respond. Ask him your question and he will give you some good advise. Make sure you have your Seismic truck instruction card with you when you take your trucks apart to replace the springs. If you don't have it I think you can find it on their site or email them and they will send it to you. It basically tells you how to make the adjustments properly.
And by the way, don't let Dankdownhiller fool you...he has been darn fast...I have seen him do it.
Like I said, my next board purchase is a Big Red X with Randal DH 160's and 83mm Flywheels....saving my change now. I only need another $200's in quarters, dimes, and nickels. I am thinking of putting a jar at the local convenience store asking for donations....

Greg Olson: Thanks for the props bro. To me, I feel that God blessed me with another wife to help me raise my daughters, keep me from going insane, and giving me the chance to be a better husband and father.

Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies
16 DAYS UNTIL DOWNHILL BILLIES JAM II

 
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helmets
On 3/9/2005 civilian2b wrote in from United States  (152.163.nnn.nnn)

helmets..you bet

my credo is

no pads = no skate

since we're talking safety gear, what should i be looking for a in a full-face helmet

dot approved
snell approved
by both? only one?
vents?
padding
etc etc

 
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Wheels and Trucks
On 3/9/2005 Dankdownhiller wrote in from United States  (66.157.nnn.nnn)

C2b I run abec flywheels 83's and Avilas but my friends have and love abec Gumballs and I bet the grippens are just as good. I have Seismics but I guess I have not been 30-35mph.Good luck and wear pads always.Surely a helmet is standard issue.

 
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thanks for the help
On 3/9/2005 civilian2b wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

thanks for all the help

i'd like to check out some seismics, but i've been told by a few people that they get REAL squirrely around 30-35mph...can anyone attest to this? or was that maybe the riders' own spring choice wasn't what it should have been?

side note, what's a good spring/baseplate angle setup for downhill cruising?

thanks again
-justin

 
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siesmic springs
On 3/9/2005 greg olsen wrote in from Canada  (209.205.nnn.nnn)

Marion,
What springs do you use in your Seismics? I have some 110 and 180 Seismics with yellow springs and on a rigid board they fall over to full lock with simple ankle rolling. I am used to the progressive spring force of a traditional truck where the more you angulate the higher the tension and you never get close to the maximum movement or tension by doing any kind of turn. Then you know you are working against something. Do I just need stiffer springs? What springs do you recommend on a 110 and what springs on a 180 for my 215lbs for fairly turny but stable at speed longboarding? Thanks. Greg

P.S. And thanks for the reply on the Michael Brooks forum. We have both been through something tough losing a wife to cancer but VERY lucky to find a 2nd great gal to marry.

 
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One More Note On Trucks
On 3/9/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

I run Seismic 180's on my Bozi Mad Bomber II and in my humble opinion they are simply awesome. I have gone at least 40 mph on them and they are incredibly stable, turny, and solid. I own Randalls, Trackers, tricked Chicken Indy's, stock Indy's, Gullwings, and no name trucks. The Seismics are incredible and I would recommend them to anyone setting up a longboard..

Now I guess, that's 3 cents worth.

MK
NCL
DHB

 
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Recommendations For Civilian2b
On 3/9/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

C2B- I am in agreement with Onedrop on the truck choice. I think if you put those Randall 180's on the Supertanker you will be pleased. The Randall DH's are set up more for boards like the Big Red X or other true speed boards. I have an OTS Wicked Wonder 58" set up with Randall 180's and 76mm 78a Gumballs. This board is a great cruiser and is stable at moderate downhill speeds. At our skate sessions we all bring our entire quiver to share with riders there. This board is very popular because its very stable.
I think the Flashbacks would be a good choice as well. Other choices you could consider would be some of the Gravityboards 73 mm Super G's...they come in a variety of durometers, they have a center hub, and the price is right. Watch the Buy-Sale-Trade Forum here for used wheels..you can sometimes get a great deal on slightly used wheels and try out different kinds. You may find that the locations you are riding in Vegas are better with a softer or harder wheel, taller or shorter, etc.

Just my two cents worth.....and you are right, longboarding is like crack, fairly cheap, plentiful, and gets you JACKED UP BIG TIME! ..

Marion Karr
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies
15 DAYS UNTIL DOWNHILL BILLIES JAM II

 
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c2b
On 3/8/2005 onedrop wrote in from United States  (68.162.nnn.nnn)

c2b - try some 70mm flashbacks for a nice overall longboarding wheel. i have them in 75a cause my streets are so rough and they are the perfect compromise of feel, grip, and speed. they also give a nice controlled slide when i need it if i'm hauling ass.

i don't think i'd put dh trucks on a liquor store cruiser. i'd go completely opposite and get the turniest trucks i could, especially for a 56" board. try the 180s on there first and if you need more to scoot that bad boy around, go for some seismics or torsion joints.

 
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size DOES matter
On 3/8/2005 civilian2b wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

...make that a 56" longboard

(i was in the pool!!!)

 
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downhill wheels recommendations
On 3/8/2005 civilian2b wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Greetings Group

I'm new to longboarding/downhill and damn if this isn't more addicting than heroin.

having said that..i need some help

i done went and got me a 5" dregs supertanker and need some setup help.

i've got randal 180's on my other longboard (blank 47" /w slight concave and a kicktail), but i'm thinking on going with the Downhill randals for this puppy.

where i'm moving to (las vegas) i think the longboard/downhill scene is rather dry, so i'm guessing this deck might end up being The Liquor Store Cruiser, but i digress from me point.

ok, so i'm set on the downhill randals, and bearings (all hail Rocket Nation! :) )

so i'm REALLY in the dark about wheels, i'm currently running some 65mm/88a Abec 11 No Skoolz, and i'm diggin' the crap out of em, but i'm looking to upgrade to a nice big sticky wheel in the 70's(mm) can someone square me away with a decent wheel at a decent price??

should i be looking at slalom wheels, maybe?

should i just quit my job and dedicate myself to a regiment of longboarding and all things: Skate?

Thanks
-c2b-

 
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Darn I Look Old......
On 3/7/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Darn, I look old in that pic....oh yeah, I am old...geez.

MK
NCL
DHB's

 
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Giro Flint-Proof It Fits A Large Skull
On 3/6/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Here is undeniable truth that the Giro Flint XL will fit a large skull...I am not sure why God gave me such a large cranium yet limited my brain development significantly...


Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies

 
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DHB Spot Scouting Pics
On 3/6/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Local DHBers: I rode both the Ridgewood Development (Rockin Ridge) and the Longbay Development (Longbay) and took a few pics. You can check them out at the DownHill Billies Photobucket site:
http://photobucket.com/albums/v329/DownHillBillies/DHB%20Riding%20Spots/?multi=6&addtype=

Here is the a pic of the main run at Rockin Ridge..2D pics don't show slope very well but this was a fast drop.


Here is the fast section of Longbay..it is much faster than Top Gun at The Spot.


The dog is part of the "street gang" that roams Longbay...friendly sort but easy to get in the way.
Make sure you check out the pic of the bad pavement on the main run at Longbay. It is in the right hand side of the road at the fastest part of the drop...hit it and the dogs will be licking skin off the street for weeks.

JayBird: Thanks for being my "radio" contact (via the mobiles) and on stand by in case I beefed it bad at either Rockin Ridge or Longbay riding by myself. Thanks for letting me check in...at least if I went down you could tell my wife where to find the body so she can collect the policy...no body no moola!

One note, I wouldn't recommend riding Rockin Ridge solo....two days out there and I only saw one car the whole time. If you go down there only the buzzards will find you. Longbay has residents at the top of the Northview side and more houses past that. I saw a few cars coming and going both days. One thing to keep in mind running the fast side (Southview) from the entrance of the development is a blind run for cars coming down the other side until you round the corner. I did meet a car but there was plenty of room on the right hand side..but beware that break in the pavement..when you are at the point you are going very fast.

Later Maters,

Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies



 
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Skate Designs Info
On 3/6/2005 John wrote in from United States  (68.162.nnn.nnn)

Does anyone have any contact info or a website for Skate Designs? The Hawaiian Sidewalk Surfer featured in the Concrete Wave Buyer's Guide looks pretty nice but I can't find any info on it anywhere.

Thanks.

 
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NCL
On 3/5/2005 Lenny- Downhill Billies wrote in from United States  (68.249.nnn.nnn)

Man, those spots sound sick! Hopefuly we can hit a couple of them when I'm in town!

What part of Ohio is Justin in? If it's anywhere in SE OH, give him my # if you talk to him! I try to keep an open door policy for bros who pop in for a visit as long as they don't mind the zoo (two cats, one pet mouse- one died this week- one mouse on death row and Betty- the python).

 
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DHB Update..Random Thoughts
On 3/5/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

G-Flash: Great to hear from you. Sorry you can't make the jam but we will have more. The hope is that we can take one of our jams and morph it into more of an event/race/or something...The whole crew have lots of great ideas.

TomMeakin: Dude, that would be great. Again, the offer goes out that you can stay here while your here. Bring your board and your pads. We probably can round up a helmet here I can make you some slide gloves if you don't have any. Just let me know what you are thinking regarding dates. As far as the Great Statesville Pumkin Fest....Dude, it is hilarious. Basically, it is an event the first Saturday in November (right after Halloween) to promote Historic Downtown Statesville. The coolest thing they have is the "Smash the Pumkin" (not to be confused with the band of a similar name) where for about $1 you get to smash a pumpkin to smitherines ala Gallagher (a big wooden sledgehammer). It is a big hit. There is also lots of good food and vendors selling all kinds of artsy farty crafty crap. My office is downtown on the street that they hold the festival and my house is only 4 blocks away.

Local Statesvillian DHB's,
With Justin in Ohio, Jaybird at the house with the girls, Darren still injured, and me not having Bandy or Rookie's number I scouted spots today and road alone. I went and road one spot Justin told me about which after a I talked with Jay found out that that part of the crew already knew about. The development is called Ridgewood and it is off of Buffalo Shoals Road right before you get to the Catawba River Bridge and Catawba County. It is brand new with only one house being built at the top of the hill near the entrance. The pavement is new and very good...they didn't smooth it a great deal. I was riding the Bozi Mad Bomber 2 with Seismic 180's and the Avila's 81 front 78 rear. After you crest that first hill the backside is extremely fast. I bombed it first time and that was STUPID! I ran it several times and I think this hill is much faster than Top Gun at the Spot. The other side of the hill is a long carver's dream and on the back side of that hill is a great less steep section that ends in a cul de sac. Attention WESLEY TUCKER-Dude, this location would be incredible for slalom, giant slalom, and almost Super G. I talked to one of the contractors and he said that he thought it would be cool if we road out there on the weekends but that the developer was an uptight son-of-a- developoer so we should avoid Ridgewood, or in my mind, Rockin Ridge. This development is only about 10 minutes max from The Spot.
The second location I scouted and skated was on Jaybird's recommendation. It is only about a mile from Rockin Ridge, over the Catawba River in Catawa County. The name of the development slips my mind right now (its' 11:30 pm and I was on a soccer field at 8:15 this morning. If you cross the bridge and go over the river turn left and the development is about a mile on the right. Dude the main hill is steep...real steep, but after a couple of runs I bombed it from the entrance to the development. It is a a down and up hill with the facing side not as steep or long....just a good role back to assist in the walk back to the top. This hill I think is faster than The Spot's Tom Gun.
There is only a small handful of houses already built and occupied and they are all past the top of the runout hill. The only problem I had was dealing with 3 dogs who really wanted to be my friend...literally...one of the little bastards try to run off with my slide glove while I was petting the big lab. The black lab also kept following me up the entrance and I was worried he was going to get out on the busy main road, but he would lumber down the hill and finally I got all three dogs back up to their house. Can you imagine seing this dude walking up your street, knee and elbow pads, full face helmet, black Linkin Park t-shirt, black cargo pants,sunglasses, carrying a Bozi Mad Bomber II leading your dogs home? I am suprised they didn't call the sherriff's office. Dudes, this hill is sick fast. I liked it a lot.
Still working on first website but sould have the first ouline up soon.

Talk to you later crew,
Marion Karr
North CArolina Longboarder
Proud Member of the DownHill Billies

 
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hey
On 3/4/2005 tommeakin wrote in from United Kingdom  (84.66.nnn.nnn)

Hi guys, i might be getting over to the US of A in the summer, i was talking to my mom and she thinks a fly-drive would be really cool, or a two centre break or something. Oh, and we checked out Statesville's tourism sites: you have a PUMPKIN FEST?!?!?!?!?!?!? LMAO!!! How cool!
I hope you are having better weather than here, it has been too nasty to skate for ages :( And i was on my driving lesson when i realised that at 35mph i was going the same speed as i did on my slalom board once hehehehehe..."nice" lol

Have any of you got a paypal account? If so i could send some money to cover tshirt costs and that. Hit me back, Tom.

 
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T shirts for the Southern Faction of the DHB's
On 3/3/2005 G-Flash wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

When? How much? Where's the web site page? When you git er dun we will e-mail you some shots of your down hill chapter at the battle re-inactment of the Narcossee Mill! It really never took place but us down home " Crackers " celebrate our heritage every chance we get or are allowed to have open containers in public!YEEEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
Ya'll Skate SAFE and make sure to wear your lids at the jam! Me and Cuz wish we could come but we are all the way down here in Kissimmee. POST some pics!

 
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Bank of America Stadium
On 3/2/2005 Surfer Jer wrote in from United States  (216.192.nnn.nnn)

Well, I checked out the stadium area and it looks like it's only ideal for street skating. There are some downhill grades near it but most of them empty onto busy streets.

 
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John Dillon...
On 3/2/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

JD: That is a great idea..and that dude, comes into the not-so-official bar of the DownHill Billies, Delany's in Downtown Historic Statesville. The owner of the bar is bringing his kid to the next jam to show him all the other aspects of skating are about. I will touch base with him today.

Dude, I am also going to scout the Charlotte situation for Wesley T. If we can't go to the BofA Stadium there are going to be some other options. It has been a while since I was out at the coliseum but I think there is a hilly parking lot there. Hey Jer, if you are out Billy Graham can you check that out as well?

Jer, I will email you my mobile number.

Marion Karr
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