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speed vents here I come!
On 6/7/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

Ohhhhh sweet Derek, thanks for posting about the new wheels - photo and all. Looking good! I simply can not resist the idea of an even faster wheel. I was liking the pink gummies even more than my Avilas and was contemplating getting a second set but oooooo la la, I think now it will have to be speed vents for me!

 
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speedvents
On 6/7/2006 derek wrote in from United States  (24.16.nnn.nnn)

OOO LA LA!!!
those speedvents are freakin' fast! i bought the softest ones- 75a i believe, and i'm thinking that these things might be magic or something. i was convinced my watch was broken or the mile markers were moved on the trail, because today's ride was way too smooth, and without any additional effort. even into a pretty good headwind, the pace on these things was consistently quick. on the flats, my average speed was between 5-10% faster than anything i've ever done on a 10+ mile ride, and the uphills today felt easier than they have all year. these babies are my new best friends :)

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centennial pix
On 6/5/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

smooove asphalt

yep, it don't git much more rural than this!

 
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LDP trippin'
On 6/5/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

Erin, I'd take a setup for sure! ...just take the softest wheels for any terrain, dissassemble trucks and all into your check-in baggage - skate tools and hardware can sometimes get confiscated when they're in carry-on. At the very least you could loosen the bushings for parking lot surfing, and at best you might find some great trails!

LUCKY!

 
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have ldp'er will travel
On 6/5/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

I've got a couple of trips planned for this summer and I am wondering whether it would be suitable to take along a ldp board.

First two weeks in Maui (a winter trip that had to be postponed, long story) and then three weeks in the Lakes District of England. I have no idea whether the roads, sidewalks or bikepaths in these places would be work for flatland pumping.

 
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centennial annual ??
On 6/2/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

Erin, great vid! you captured the feel of that trail and that day -- you're a hill climber! I'm still buzzin from that ride. Thats gotta be an annual, memorial day event, and that trail's gonna be a monthly gig for me from now on. The rolling hills were amazing, especially the 4 miles up, then the 5 miles gradually DOWN, and that was only the top half of the trail. A snowboarder's dream -- without the lift tickets.

A biker friend shot me this 'wayfaring' site to geek out on, its really cool but I'm just getting started-- for mapping out distance courses you've boarded, or ones you're planning on. I added a route I'm gonna testride from the Burke up to the Centennial trailhead. It might be suicide as I'm not sure what riding the SR-9 shoulder is like (probably illegal) http://www.wayfaring.com/users/show/14782

 
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centennial trail ride
On 6/2/2006 derek wrote in from United States  (24.16.nnn.nnn)

erin ROCKS!
you should have seen her nailing the inclines like they were nothin', and smiling the entire time...
nice job on the video sista! that ride was a blast.
we gotta do this ride again, and with more people. that trail is dreamy.

 
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"A Paved Wave Kind'a Day"
On 6/1/2006 ninefeet wrote in from France  (212.234.nnn.nnn)

NICE VID !!!!
Are going up the hill??
Nice boards to...

 
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"A Paved Wave Kind'a Day"
On 6/1/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

http://media.putfile.com/A-Pavedwave-kinda-Day-95

 
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Zogs
On 5/31/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)

Zogs,

diggin the artwork man, I really like that fatboy, flames are cool.

 
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U.B's RII's and stuff.
On 5/31/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)


Hey Tarin,

we are way down south in west sussex, right next to Gatwick, we were in north Devon (woolacombe) only a month or so ago.

I think me and the CX just haven't had enough time to get properly aquainted.
I've been spending alot of time on the Tracker RTX/RTS's and just have never set the CX up to my liking? I'm sure in time i'll get it, just lately my skate time has been few and far between, so i've gone with a setup i know works.

As for the Randals, i brought a bulk load a while back when i was selling set ups on e-bay, the base plate holes were all over the place, then a little while ago, i got some Randal downhills to use the hangers for Skumping, but when it came to fit the rear one as they come, i couldn't get the bolts through the holes let alone line them up with the ones i'd drilled in the deck, i was told this is due to making a cast from a truck that was made from a cast before.........you get it i'm sure?!!!

Those UB's are 'Urban Blue', you must have seen them down Devon, the seem to be anywhere you can buy a micro scooter, kites and stuff with Devon writen on?

Its a shame they seem to have a bit of a bad rep, but the trucks are a great RII copy, i think it might be because the do so many other lines, so are not seen as a longboard company (sorry if this offends anyone from Urban Blue, its just how i've interpreted it).
Click here for link
This is their longboard site, they are a part of Click here for link R&J sports ltd.
And they are U.K. based, so you would think we would be able to get better prices, but it doesn't seem much different than buying U.S.?

On a similar note, did everyone see the review on all the trucks like Randals, that are now on the market from everywhere but the U.S.? I downloaded the pdf if anyone wants it, its from the fish, i'm not on there much so i'm probly well late in finding it?

 
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replies
On 5/31/2006 tarin wrote in from United Kingdom  (82.152.nnn.nnn)

derek-
so you're using the randal 150s for your everyday pumping, and cx's for special occasions now?


erin-
the distances some of you guys do are insane. i dont think i've pumped any further than 5 miles so far. i dont know if it's my technique, my c7 set-up, or the gritty and somewhat hilly terrain i've usually been on thats made me not want to go much further.. but im moving at the moment (sitting on a train writing this actually) and hopefully, will get the money together to get some cx's soon so i should have this figured out shortly.


munchh-
i'd been living in fort william, in the north of scotland, and have had to get my skating things from the states. a friend brought a deck over when she came to visit early this year, and i've since gotten a replacement c7 front from daddiesboardshop.. the shipping came to about 10 pounds. whereabouts in britain are you? im in devon at the moment, but am moving to copenhagen and will be there within the week.. and am looking forward to pumping on their smooth, smooth bike paths.

thanks for the link to your man and your set-up page.. i've seen the latter before, linked in from pavedwave if i remember correctly.

redrill the bolt holes.. you need to redrill bolt holes with randals? and what problems have you had with the cx's?


james-
hiya.. i've been linked to the ncdsa forums ever since i began googling longboarding and pumping i thought i should finally drop in myself!

the first part to ever break was one of the washers around the main kingpin, it just crunched like granola when i put a wee bit of pressure on. then the next two things went together: the fat coil you're referring to, as well as the piece that goes on the horizontal kingpin right behind the spring, that the hangar hooks into. the stainless steel part that's bent at a 90 degree angle that sits up against the spring. i'll post a picture.



then that part (but not the spring) broke again on my replacement! after only a few weeks.

do cx's have anything easily breakable like that in them?

 
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Original Concept
On 5/31/2006 Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

This was the original idea for what the graphic was going to be...

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The final product killed that computer generated piece of junk!

 
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Paint
On 5/31/2006 Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

I came up with the design of having the kokopelli blow fire out of his horn. I have a friend though who is awesome at painting and wanted to try doing the board. So, I handed the board over to her. She really outdid my expectations in terms of adding a second kokopelli man and also painting the fatboy logo on there. The shading on the flames is INTENSE!!! The colors change depending on the way the light shines on it.

Its basically her entry to the grahpics contest. I just did the stuff like dreaming it up, clear coating it, and then mounting it.

 
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Zogs paint job
On 5/30/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Mr Zogs THAT IS ONE VERY COOL PAINT JOB!!! I love it dude!!! Did you design and paint it yourself?

 
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Koko Fire - My Fatboy gone WILD!!!
On 5/30/2006 Mr. Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys... finally finished my fibreflex mod (no pictures yet) and got around to setting my randal 150s up on it with khiro whites up front and blues in the rear. Great setup. I'll have pictures tomorrow probably.

Anyway, the main reason for my post is to show off (yes, show off, heh) the new paintjob on my Fatboy Fata$$. Handpainted in acrylics. Its two kokopelli men blowing blue flames up the board out of their nose "horns." Enjoy!

Before...
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After!
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`Z

 
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meetings
On 5/30/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)

I envy u lot, one day when my lotto numbers come in i'll get to meet you all, but for now, vids are good.

 
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the pump day!
On 5/30/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Was it amazing? Was it more than one could even wish for? Was it a pump skater's dream come true?

Yes, it was all this and more.

Skating with the two skatekings, James and Derek, was inspiring, euphoric and a hill of fun!

Vids to follow.

 
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3 pumpers meet
On 5/29/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

One from the north, two from the south...meeting somewhere in between to share pump stoke!

When?

TODAY!!!

Check back here later for a full event report.

 
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just breakin' in ;-)
On 5/29/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)



here's that link to CX front singles that was mentioned on the 'fish -- www.solidskate.com/truck/carv.shtml

 
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truck parts
On 5/27/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

James thanks for your opinions on the off round CX hanger hole. I have set the truck up with harder duro bushings and will mount it again soon to see how it skates. I really don't want to have to pitch trucks after only a few hundred kilometres of pumping. Its too bad we can't just get truck parts when we need replacements instead of having to buy an entire set of trucks. Just the hanger or at least just the front CX would be nice to be able to purchase when needed.

In the meantime I will be squeezing as much life out of the truck and bushings as possible.

 
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tracker Munnch
On 5/27/2006 erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Looking really good there Munnch! I too am curious about how the Trackers will pump over the longer distances. I am thinking of putting a set up one my Sandpipers so will be keen to hear how they go.

 
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tracker munchh board
On 5/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Thats a tasty setup Munchh! Glad to see you set up with trackers, and like to hear your impressions. Have been wanting to test an uber-wedged tracker on front and just haven't had the spare moment to put it together. I used to have a lot of the washer biting into the hangar, but with barrel Khiros top and bottom and a flat washer I don't run into that anymore.

 
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hangar hole & rear bushing
On 5/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

hey erin, i'm finally able to catch up to you with my opin on this, before i bust out for the mem day weekend... i'm not exactly sure its a bad thing to have that hole worn a bit. i actually like the feel until that thing is really torn open. note that derek and i might differ a little in our opinions on this one. but on my tracker midtracks for example, brad jackman got me taking a round file to bore that hole open more, right away, to make the truck "twitchier"... so following that logic, the natural wear on the CX for me anyway, is something I like. I have benefitted from using a slightly harder durometer bushing, the more that hole opens up. so far I've never busted a front kingpin on my CX, and I think its partly because the hangar takes more punishment. "somethings gotta give" and I'd rather see a hangar wear down slowly and bushings get eaten up, over a kingpin fail in a split second. (ow!!) hope that helps-- i think those still got a lotta miles in 'em. derek feels that they work at their 'optimal' point when the hole is smallest, and there may be something to that but I think a lot of this starts boiling down to preference. i'll take a few shots later of what my splitfire holes look like now too... they're also "broken in"!

as for the rear bushing i'm with derek on that one. i have a tracker stim on bottom and khiro cone on top and I hardly even have to look at it!

 
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New setups
On 5/27/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)



What with the slalom setup giving me so much pleasure and seeing the master using those little splitfires, i thought i'd give this a go. Because of the great English summer time, its been wet for ages, with brief glimpses of dry tarmac. It pumps very similar to the slalom deck, but with a longer motion, but the power off the back is real nice. The front is wedged 12 degrees and the back de-wedged 5, i was able to pump it round the carpark for a good 10mins without a problem, so i think the mile will be great on this, but its the 1st time i've got off and not had the cramped foot, so could be good for alot further.

Erin, that pinky-pipper is looking sweet, the holeys do it credit, hope its being a good girl?

So what with you all getting your hands on the ROE LDP, is it proving to be the ultimate, JP makes it look unstoppable in that vid?

Does anyone else use the Kiro cone inserts, the stop that bushing washer on top grinding into the hanger around the kingpin hole??

 
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