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Ark. Cop Cleared of Choking Skateboarder
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On 7/3/2007
Bruce Brewington
wrote in from
United States
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...and now the rest of the story...
(07-03) 08:48 PDT LITTLE ROCK, (AP) -- A police officer who appeared to choke a skateboarder and put two others in a headlock in a video posted online used appropriate force when making his arrests, an internal police investigation found.
The Hot Springs Police Department Internal Affairs Board found the use of force was within the police department's policy on non-deadly force and recommended "no changes to this policy." The decision was released Monday.
Officer Joey Williams confronted a situation that "would have overwhelmed any single officer" when he stopped those breaking a Hot Springs city ordinance by skateboarding on a downtown sidewalk June 21, the report said.
However, Williams was faulted for leaving a handcuffed suspect unattended while chasing another youth in the resort town's historic Bathhouse Row.
Williams has been on administrative leave since the video hit YouTube on June 25. Police said he would return to active duty Thursday in the city's downtown.
"I think it was fair," City Manager Kent Myers said. Witnesses "consistently supported the actions of the officer and his efforts to control the situation."
Video from a business' security cameras shows 10 skateboarders rolling down the city sidewalk at a good clip, followed by Williams, who sprints past the last skater.
A video taken by skateboarders and later posted on YouTube shows Williams on top of one of the skaters, apparently choking him. The video also showed Williams putting another two skateboarders in a headlock, and the officer can later be heard threatening to use pepper spray on a skateboarder lying on the ground.
Police said they arrested Matthew Jon McCormack, 21, and Skylar Nalls, 19, both of Hot Springs, and four juveniles. McCormack faces a misdemeanor battery charge accusing him of pushing or striking a 67-year-old city employee during the melee. Nalls was cited for skateboarding and faces misdemeanor charges of fleeing and obstructing governmental operations.
McCormack has previously disputed many of the police allegations, especially his battery charge. He has said he pulled on the city employee's arm after the man lifted a girl off her feet in a choke-hold.
Hot Springs is a resort town about 50 miles west of Little Rock.
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Not too excessive.
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On 7/1/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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Cat:
I guess we disagree. I don't think that was too excessive to make an arrest. Didn't look like the kid needed a doctor or an ambulance ....
I'll see ya at Hood River soon!
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Oh c'mon Pat
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On 6/29/2007
Cat
wrote in from
United States
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That was excessive force, no matter how you look at it!
These kids were on freakin' skateboards.
Would his next step have been to take his gun out, then uhoh, it accidentally went off---- oops! That HAS happened!
There was no need to do that to those kids. Period.
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Arrested on Go Skateboarding Day
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On 6/28/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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For a different view of what happened, take a look here:
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/06/361512.shtml
In particular, read the eyewitness report about:
A) Where the skateboarding took place (in front of a home for the disabled)
B) How the hooligans on skateboards were tormenting the officer
C) How the main instigator came back to the scene with 10 friends, cameras, etc.
D) How the eyewitness's perception is that National Go Skateboard day is a protest "to take over the streets". (I thought it was just a fun day for all of us to go skateboarding).
At any rate, before we all jump to conclusions about the bad cops, we might want to see what led up to the incident, not just the arrests being made.
-- Pat
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how about this one?
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On 6/28/2007 cmc
wrote in from
United States
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Might be old...but wtf?
http://www.viciousenterprises.com/summersblog/2007/02/cops-love-to-taser-people.html
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police and skateboarding
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On 6/28/2007
cmc
wrote in from
United States
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That recent video is getting madd press all over the internet and I heard mentioning of it on a few major radio stations today here in the North East. I called that Arkansas police station today and the fellow that answered the phone said that the video was "edited" to make them look bad.?.?.? Ok...hope he gets fired and then some.
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Nothing better to do???
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On 6/28/2007
Cat
wrote in from
United States
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The donut shops must have closed early on June 21st.
They need to strap that cop to a skateboard and give everyone in town a turn at choking him til he turns blue & his eyes pop out. Then grind his face into the cement until he is bloody.
Nah.... that's too good for him.
I hope his kids ask for a skateboard for Christmas. That will send him into a never-ending HELL !!
Cops Suck!
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cops
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On 6/26/2007 mckendry
wrote in from
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6AYVn2yw4
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California Used Car Dealers
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On 6/8/2007
UnoCar Dealers
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Dion
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On 6/5/2007
Dion
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On 5/23/2007
010
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United States
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ARE ALL THE SOULS BEING LOST IN IRAQ FOR FREEDOM???WHEN I CAN'T EVEN F#%$@^& SKATEBOARD WHEN AND WHERE I WANT....GREAT F#$%^&* DEAL WE HAVE GOING HERE EH PEOPLE??
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On 5/23/2007
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Yeah, But...
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On 5/16/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
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Pat, you're thinking like someone who uses wheels to ROLL on, not someone who uses wheels as a platform from which to ollie/kickflip/varial/shuvit/railslide.
Th at's the issue.
It has been, and will be. (this, aside from the 1960's Police Chief's recommendation against Skateboards in General, which haunts us ALL to this day!)
I'd say, limit the boards by LENGTH. Gotta be 42" or more, with 20" between the wheels. Oh, and wheels must be over 55mm tall. Do that, and, gee, the fun, practical, and OhMyGosh responsible thing to do with such a board is, Um, TRAVEL, as in transportation, which then alludes to No Sidewalks and, "YES PLEASE, May We use your Bikepaths?"....
Of course, the true skater in me says to do this:
Petition!!!
Get as many skaters and friends-of-skaters to sign as possible. Show up with as many as possible. Put a loudmouth with a Megaphone out on the Green, chanting away. Make Noise (positive vocalizations, of course) that's louder than the rollerblader's who got cut-off by the local skaters (Oh, yeah, and recruit the Rollerbladers, too, with the famous anti-totalitarinistic line, "You're Next, DOH!"), don't forget the Techies and their SEGWAY's either. Those are really Scary (Hey, Gyroscopes can fail!).
When the above fails, try the Anarchist's Cookbook for step 3!!
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UCSB proposed ban on skateboarding.
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On 5/16/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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"Skateboarding and rollerskating are permitted on open walkways
provided they do not constitute a hazard to pedestrians,
bicyclists or disabled persons, disrupt classes or damage
property."
Click here for link
The rules clearly state that skateboarding shall be done without being a hazard to other people ---- so the rules seem OK to me. Maybe what they need is more enforcement of the existing rules, rather than a ban on skateboarding.
It is also not clear from the letter what the nature of the "increase in reported accidents" is. Could it be more skateboarders having accidents themselves? Or more skateboarders involved with accidents with other people? Or more willingness to report accidents or incidents that previously went unreported?
I don't know the layout of the UCSB sidewalks and bike paths, but if it looks like a ban is very likely, you might suggest trading a ban on skateboards on the sidewalks with permission to ride them on the bike paths (currently prohibited from bike paths). Seems to me that it often is the case that skateboarders mix better with bikes than pedestrians.
Or, for the best of everything, maybe suggest that instead of banning skateboards on sidewalks, they allow them on bike paths (and sidewalks) -- and the decreased usage of sidewalks (in favor of bike paths) could reduce the accident/incident rate.
-- Pat
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Save Skating on UCSB Campus
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On 5/16/2007
Dave
wrote in from
United States
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Hey guys. I can't believe that they are actually considering banning skateboarding on campus. Please show up at these meetings (preferably with a skateboard in hand) and show UCSB that skateboarders are good people and that skateboarding is as legitimate a form of transportation as biking. Here is the email that they sent out in case you missed it:
To: Campus Community
Re: UCSB Campus Regulations Applying to SKATEBOARDING
Currently, the use of skateboards are permitted on the UCSB campus
when used for transportation on open walkways, provided they do not
constitute a hazard to pedestrians, bicyclists or disabled persons,
disrupt classes or damage property.
Due to a significant increase in the number of reported accidents
from Student Health and safety concerns raised by the disabled
community and University Police, the Vice Chancellor for
Administrative Services will hold a Town Hall meeting to review our
skateboarding policy.
The meeting will be held in the University Center Harbor Room on May
23 and May 24 from 11:30 - 1:30 on both days. There will be
presentations from Student Health, Public Safety, the disabled
community and others. There will be an opportunity to hear comments
from the campus community at large.
The full policy can be found at UCSB's Policies Home Page.
Donna Carpenter
Vice Chancellor
Administrative Services
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gay tickets
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On 5/12/2007 drizzle
wrote in from
United States
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$345 ticket 4 sitting on a school ground by a seven stair filming ftp!!!
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Nike Skateboard Ads....
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On 5/7/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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Nice! Those ads are perfect! Did they actually run on TV?
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Skating
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On 4/27/2007
Brandon Wilson
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United States
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im at skool and i want to say that if they band skating that there gay
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Skateboarding
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On 4/27/2007
Brandon
wrote in from
United States
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im just writing this cause im bored so yeah
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skateboarding
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On 4/25/2007 Jared alderin
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Banning skate boarding is the most retarded thing you can do unless the cops get board and wanna chase down druggies that turned into meth and potheads because of the drug(skating) that they took away from skaters... i skate and im against this whole things because it is total bull s#@!.
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Skateboarding
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On 4/23/2007 Ryan
wrote in from
United States
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Banning possesion of skateboards is dumb, for lack of a better word. While they're banning skateboards, why don't they ban guns, too? The story of the Virginia Tech massacre, a man shot 31 people with a gun, of which he bought from a pawn shop. Guns are highly dangerous, as opposed to a bruised ankle. I highly doubt that runaway skateboard can break someone's ankle. Sure it'd hurt, but it will heal. When you get shot in the heart, the head, or anywhere, it's going to hurt, and you could possibly die. Saying that someone can't possess a skateboard is like telling people they can't swim at public swimming pools. It's dangerous, you could drown. And for the "damaging property" bulls#@!, who cares if your curbside has a few scrapes, or you have skidmarks on your sidewalk? People are so intolerable towards skateboarders. Skateboarding isn't a crime, it's a culture.
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no
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On 4/17/2007 dont care
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no law for skatung
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no laws
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On 4/17/2007 dont need to know
wrote in from
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there should be no law on were we skate i got in trouble for skating in front of a church and there were no sign posted i have also got in trouble for skating in the park i live in it is all a bunch of s#@! that we get in trouble for nothing
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rail gouges?
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On 4/17/2007 joe
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there is not medal gouges in rails after we skate it there are just colors on the rail
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