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No Homemade indo board, Get the Real Thing
On 11/8/2002 lbk wrote in from (64.157.nnn.nnn)

For the amount of time & money you invest in trying to put together a homemade Indo Board, you might as well have purchased one. Hunter, the inventor/owner of Indo Boards, supports slalom skateboarding. He was the starter at the first Morro Bay Slalom Championships year before last. Support his company, he supports skateboarding and a bunch of other related sports.

By the way, the Indo Board helps with building up twitchy muscles for slalom skateboarding and everyday snowboarding, not to mention the whole balance thing.

 
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skate off
On 11/6/2002 Mathew wrote in from (65.174.nnn.nnn)

HughR
what ever happened on your last skate off?

 
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Indo
On 10/31/2002 Lenny wrote in from (156.63.nnn.nnn)

I've never done it, but I know quite a few people who have done the same thing as schnitzel, but used 10 inches of PVC Pipe instead of the two liter.

 
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home made indo board
On 10/29/2002 shnitzel wrote in from (207.6.nnn.nnn)

just use an old blank street deck and a 2L pop bottle full of water. works for me. when you get a leak replace the bottle! heh heh

later

 
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Homemade indo board
On 10/26/2002 julius wrote in from (209.179.nnn.nnn)

Can anyone please give me the specs for the Indo board...i know that the length is 30 inches, but i need to know the width...i also need to know the length of the pvc piping...and I already know to use a 6 inch diameter pvc pipe...can you also recommend a good thickness of the plywood to use...THanks
What I need:
length of pvc pipe:???
width of board:???
thickness of plywood:???

 
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skateoff open house
On 10/24/2002 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Guys are flyin' in! Don't forget to shoot me an email for directions to skate! This saturday morning at 11 am in the high deserts above LA... lots of hills... something for just about everyone!

Carveboard will be there as will Freebord... hoping the Tierney guys can too... will also have several flowlabs to try out too... so shoot me an e! HR

 
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sails
On 10/24/2002 mike wrote in from (65.146.nnn.nnn)

We share the shops computer at work. I wish I could ride as good as Corey. I suck at these boards so I cant say anything.

 
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sails
On 10/24/2002 carver wrote in from (66.167.nnn.nnn)

howcome Corey from Tierney is posting messages under the name "mike"?

 
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sails
On 10/23/2002 mike wrote in from (65.147.nnn.nnn)

I met 2 guys in Hood River using the Tierney board with sails. One guy was AJ Kitt the olympic skier. Too much FUN.

 
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Skateboard with a Sail!
On 10/22/2002 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Here's a look... Pics and a short vid... hopefully much more to come! HR

Douglas K's Skate Sail Page

 
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Hey Carver
On 10/22/2002 Corey wrote in from (65.147.nnn.nnn)

They are fun!!!!I own them both but I stay away from speed wobbles most of the time. The Tierneyrides are the the only ride that helps me with my snowboard training and I can ride huge hills or flatland with one switch of a wheel.
RIDE SAFE and SHARE THE BUZZ

 
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Crooks rails
On 10/21/2002 K-LEE wrote in from (129.24.nnn.nnn)

I have several sets of Crooks rails on longboards and a shortboard. I am reporting on the short ones (14.5"), but the remarks should apply to all lengths made of the same material. I was initally interested in Crooks because I like using rails for not only slides but grabbing rail as well. So, the "rails for longboards" thing caught my attention a while back when they were first coming out. But then I noticed that they come with wood screws and not t-bolts (sex bolts?) like Rib Bones used to. However, the guys at Longskate.com hooked me up with some proper mounting hardware, so I ordered several sizes of rails. The ones that have seen the most use are the 14.5" ones I have on my street board. I've been using these since about the summer time, but not every day. I like to slide low rails and parking blocks all over UNM campus. While I was sliding a block the other day, the trailing rail caught on a bit of unseen rebar sticking out. This is usually enough to gouge a good scar in a set of Rib Bones, but in this case it ripped a section of the rail between two screws right off the deck! The rail broke into sections and only 2 were left on the board! This NEVER happened with a set of Rib Bones, not to me at least. Now I know why they don't include t-bolts, to keep the rails together in one piece when they get ripped off of your deck! Granted, they were already worn down a bit from a few months of use, but I have sets of Rib Bones that have lasted me for years! So, as is the case with a fair amount of equipment out there, it is a great idea executed poorly with bad engineering (hardware) and materials (cheap plastic, not UHMW). I for one would love to see some Bones-ish type plastics showing up again. As all this older stuff is becoming marketable again, wouldn't it be cool to be able to outfit your new Ray Flores deck and double conical wheels with good quality lappers, rails, nose guards, copers, etc....? Maybe that's a bit too dorky for most of you, but I was shocked when my Crooks rail failed on me. Looks like it's time to make another OldSchoolSkates.com order and get 3 or 4 sets of Rib Bones to replace my (even more expensive than NOS rails) Crooks.

 
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Skate-off! Day 2
On 10/19/2002 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Had a great day skating today! Here's the pics and vids of Day 2 of the Skate-off! HR

Skate_off! Day 2

 
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axel
On 10/16/2002 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Hey Matt... I'll measure it up a week from saturday... HR

 
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Carveboeard Axle Diameter?
On 10/16/2002 Mathew wrote in from (65.174.nnn.nnn)

Is the axle the same on the Carveboard as on a standandard skateboard truck? I want to put some SEALED bearings in.

(HughR?)

 
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Skate Off.....
On 10/16/2002 Skullyh wrote in from (216.250.nnn.nnn)

Just a couple of reviews from a snowboarding site, written by a snowboarder who is very into the technical side of a CARVED snowboard turn:

Tierney: http://www.bomberonline.com/Bomber_Files/Tierney_Review/tierney_review.html

Carveboard, Flowlab, MBS, Landsurfer:
http://www.bomberonline.com/Bomber_Files/Street_Carvers/street_carvers.html

 
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T-Board
On 10/16/2002 Carver wrote in from (66.167.nnn.nnn)

What up Corey? I dig the t-board too. However, the DCS is my ride of choice if I had to choose only one. What are your thoughts/experience on the Carveboard and the DCS?

Carver

 
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T-Board
On 10/16/2002 corey wrote in from (65.147.nnn.nnn)

How does the Tierney Rides technology work???

T-board wheels are placed in castors and the front castor holds the wheel backwards to act as a rudder. When the rider leans right, the rudder moves left, bringing the rider back to center and allowing for extreme carves.

Just as in snowboarding, the harder a rider leans, the harder they turn and the better they can control their speed. (Most skateboarders won't go down extremely long or steep hills because they wouldn't be able to control their speed and stay in control on four wheels.) Further, since there are only two wheels on the board a rider can turn a complete circle in a five foot radius.

To enhance the ride further, Tierney Rides added resistance on the rudder by adding urethane torsion rings. (The ride can get a bit squirrelly without the resistance -- but with the rings the ride is completely smooth with no 'speed wobbles'.) The tension on the truck or rudder can be customized and acts like water pushing the rudder back to the center of a boat.

This is also what what happens when you snowboard. A rider leans into turns and tips the board on its edge, making the board one big rudder. Since the T-board only has two wheels a rider gets the same feeling of carving on a snowboard.

Boards with four or more wheels force the rider to ride and turn on a platform.

 
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sk8off
On 10/15/2002 nicky wrote in from (64.166.nnn.nnn)

i think part of the skate off IS first impressions and ability to ride easily. Plus, i have ridden freebord and tierney and flowlab and i just think that the freebord is no fun. i am assuming that lots of people agree with me. I prefer to ride a board that doesnt shoot out from under me, especially on concrete....

 
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2 cents
On 10/15/2002 scrub wrote in from (12.235.nnn.nnn)

Assessing the freebord in a category like 'carving' on your first day riding is ridiculous, it's like giving a first time snowboarder a deck and say ok evaluate how it carves. Since the freebord is as difficult to learn as snowboarding is because the edges work the same, actual carving as well as edging is not going to be achieved without much practice.
The other boards however are designed to carve simply by leaning heel/toe which doesn't happen on the snow. This makes them easy and fun to start, but not as close to riding a snowbaord. Think of how wierd and painful snowboarding was the first time. Your first experience on a freebord will no doubt simulate it perfectly! But then as you advance it will continue to ride almost identically to a snowboard.
Aslo, if you get yellow wheels you're flow will roll alot better. And I don't know how fb 'tied for slowest' I can pace a longboarder extremely close which might be possible on tboard depending how soft those wheels are, but won't happen on a flowlab or carveboard.
so there's 2 cents where my change???

 
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4 shnitzel
On 10/15/2002 Carver wrote in from (64.105.nnn.nnn)

one more time without the typo:

Think about this: if 1000's of these "wacky" boards are being produced and ridden each year by several rider based-companies, don't you think your assessment is a bit short-sighted?

 
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4 shnitzel
On 10/15/2002 Carver wrote in from (64.105.nnn.nnn)

If we were dependent on narrow minded riders like you to push our industry, we'd still be on clay wheels. Open your mind and see the possibilities. Think about this: if 1000's of these "wacky" boards are being produced and ridden each year by several rider based-companies, don't you think assessment a bit short-sighted?

Carver

 
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*weeping*
On 10/15/2002 Rio wrote in from (24.165.nnn.nnn)

As much as I hate having contrary opinions, I feel it's necessary to point things out so reviews such as these are fair. (Again I'll state that) in my opinion, freebord is the closest thing to snowboarding.

My very first time snowboarding, I remember that at the end of our trip, I was able to head down the intermediate slopes, falling occasionally. I was so excited I could not wait for the next season to begin. So my bro, who was already deeply engulfed by the skateboarding world, told me about freebording. So I went out and bought it, and I must admit I had trouble with it myself, but I road it all summer long. When I hit the slopes once again, I had surprised my friends how quickly I had picked up snowboarding. We ended up racing each other down the back of the mountain on diamond slopes. The freebords sliding characteristics trained me to slow down when it was necessary. If I had road the carveboard, flowlab, & tierney's board that summer, all summer long, I would not have been able to race. I am sure of it.

Now it may seem that I speak of freebord as if it is the best snowboard simulator. It is not. However, carveboard, flowlab, and tierney's board does not fit it either. All of these boards have characteristics in snowboarding, but I still think that the lateral motion of snowboarding is an important aspect, and is not even considered in Hughr/Chipman's skateoff. By looking at "Attributes tested for include", it seems the reviews are based on whether they like it or not.

As you all know, freebord recieves many critisms. Part of it is that I think that it is difficult to come from snowboarding to freebording. When snowboarders are trying to stop on a freebord, they end up falling off the board from leaning back too much, kicking out the board from underthem. I'm willing to bet this was happening in the skateoff. The reason is because snowboarders are bound to their board. When they ride a freebord, they try to have the similar motions, but the bindings are not there to keep them from falling off. Snowboarding to freebording can be trouble some. But freebording to snowboarding is easiest. Hughr, when you get the hang of freebording, transitioning to snowboarding will be cake.

 
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sk8off
On 10/15/2002 shnitzel wrote in from (207.6.nnn.nnn)

i guess this is going to go on forever..... myself, i snowboard in the winter and sk8 in the summer. yes, you stand sideways on both....... and you do stand sideways on all those other weird crafts too. i've tried them and they're kinda fun. you can do some tricks on them and carve down hills but their still just weird gimmiks that don't perform anywhere near what they are trying to simulate. i still prefer my snowboard and my skateboard... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

 
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Day 1 Results
On 10/14/2002 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Read-em and weep!

Skate-off! Results Day 1

Day 2 coming soon! HR

 
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