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On 6/15/2005
slim
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uh, do you want that exact board that the actor playing the character Stacy is riding in that photograph? or do you just want one that is the model of board the real stacy peralta would have ridden in that era? if the latter, just go on ebay. if the former, they're auctioning off lots of stuff for charity so you may find it eventually on ebay too.
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stacy's board
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On 6/15/2005 lance
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chris caput do u no where to get that board stacys using in the pic below?
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skip
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On 6/15/2005 toddc
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I heard the director talking about skip/heath and she said that Heath took the character in a direction where he was no longer supposed to be doing an imitiation of skip and that he was creating a "new" character for the movie. Unlike the Jay/Tony/Stacy characters, Skips character was altered to fit the plot. Was he really all teary eyed and torn up when Alva or Stacey talked about leaving the team? Did he really punch or threaten people at contests, or grease a cop to get in? This is where the "inspired" part comes in. If you leave out Jeff Ho, and alter Skips character by leaps and bounds, you have a ficticious character created to drive the story - not a factual representation of a real man - at least that's what Hardwicke and Ledger were saying in the interviews I see. Don;t take any of it completely literally.
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Skipper
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On 6/15/2005
Chris Chaput
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I didn't know Skip back in the day. I've talked to him on the set, and heard a number of his recent interviews. Most of what I've heard about his hard-partying antics have been from him, and it's my understanding that he's been (openly) sober for a long time now. He's been super stoked about having Heath Ledger play him in the movie.
I've never been shy about telling people that I'm a (recovering) alcoholic/addict. My last drink/trip was on February 21st, 1986.
Sobriety doesn't necessarily change your personality, but it sure can change your behavior!
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Skip
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On 6/15/2005
MG
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Yeah, I'm willing to accept Chris may be right about Skip, I didn't know him back in the day. People do change. I still say he was probably a lot more likable in real life than you might get from the movie. Did you know him back then, CC?
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wanna see
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On 6/15/2005
martin
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I wanna see this movie but it takes some time until we have it in swiss cinemas...
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Skip, Skipping, Skipped
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On 6/14/2005
Chris Chaput
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Years of hard drinking and druggin' followed by years of sobriety can change a man. For example, I used to be nice.
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old products
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On 6/14/2005
Anthony
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There is a company in LA that has a "grocery store" stocked with products from all eras. Many times they take one product and reproduce it for scenes. I know because they paid me very handsomely for a bunch of 60's product boxes I found in an old house. It was pretty funny watching this guy freak out over a Nabisco cracker box (they didn't have a copy) It's pretty crazy, but that's show business. So next time you're at Grandma's house, check in the basement. You might get paid.
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Skip
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On 6/14/2005
MG
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Sparky brings up an interesting point, and one I thought of after seeing the film. I first met Skip about 4 years ago, when I was trying to get an old broken Turner slalom deck repaired at Aqua Tech. A big dude covered with resin dust was sanding a surfboard under a tarp, and was friendly and helpful, tho he's never met me before. Introduces himself as Skip, and is cool as can be. Great storyteller about LA in the old days. In a nutshell, the real Skip Engblom has about fifty times the charm and warmth as the Heath Ledger version, and if you know him some of that stuff in the film of him throwing boards off the roof in a drunken rage seems a little far fetched.
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my take on LODT
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On 6/14/2005
sparky
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I was blown away by the authenticity of the 70's brought across here. I mean the grocery store had labels on food I had long forgotten about. On a less critical note, i already own most of the music in the soundtrack (8-track, cassette, and vinyl.) Watching Jay's descent(or is it ascent?) into the punk underworld was kinda happy/sad (i guess you could make a movie based solely on that subject.) I will say that the portrayal of Jay in this movie comes off like he will pop-up in anybody's backyard, cause he is in it for the sheer joy of rippin' it up (although he probably would have kicked your ass rather than look at you at that point in his life).
Was Skip really as crass as he comes off in the movie? He sounded like an ass more than what the members of the Zephyr team have said about him in the past.
Oh, and Hackett!, you f#@!in' rock!, hope to see you rip it in person one day.
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stacy's board
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On 6/12/2005 lance
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does anyone no where to get that board that stacy's using in the picture below?
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big ditch
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On 6/12/2005 nick
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that ditch is in san diego. about 2 minutes from mexico. nice curb at the top, really kinked at the bottom, and lots of trash and hep c needles.
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stacy's board
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On 6/12/2005 lance
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United States
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By the way this is the board i was talking about i think its the warptail thing. but do u no where i cud get it?
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stacy's board
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On 6/12/2005 lance
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thanks a lot man but do u no where to get that board?
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Ditch
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On 6/12/2005 Crooked Cop
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United States
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Anyone know where that big ditch was in the D-town movie?
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Warptail
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On 6/12/2005
Beth
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United States
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Chris,
I'm so glad you're putting out a Warptail II - like deck, it's about time someone did that! That was an incredibly popular (and good) board design that deserves another shot for the new generation of skaters - not to mention the ones who skated their old Warptails to bits 25 years ago.
B.
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Stacy's board
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On 6/12/2005
Chris Chaput
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United States
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I'm pretty sure that you're talking about a G&S Warptail with Tracker trucks and 65mm Retro VertZ. I'm making two vert board completes that are similar - the Pool Stick and the Park Stick. One is Alva-ish and the other is Warp-ish.
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board
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On 6/12/2005 lance
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does anyone no what that board that stacy uses in the end is called or where to get it?
its got like green wheels and some green writing on the bottom of it
anyone no what it is?
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movie
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On 6/11/2005 ????
wrote in from
United States
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I wanted to see OJ's pool.
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Lords of dogtown movie
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On 6/11/2005
Darryl Hodge
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United States
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I thought the movie was really good....great classic ending too...it would have been nice to see Alva-Adams-Peralta skating in the pool for the first time....I hope everyone pays the full price to see it...it's not about them making money or not....it's thanking them for MAKING the movie
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NY Times story
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On 6/11/2005 Barb
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I should have added that the article was written by Damien Cave. Rumor has it he skated in the 70s, for what it's worth.
My former employer,the LA Times, did a big story last week about how street skating is now the dominant style. I think they were only about 15 years late with that news flash.
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NY Times story, Part 11
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On 6/11/2005 Barb
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I guess you'll need to read it online for the entire story
www.nytimes.com "Dogtown, USA"
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NY Times story on mainstream skateboarding
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On 6/10/2005 Barb O.
wrote in from
United States
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Sorry, I don't know where else to post this on ncdsa!
in this Sunday's NY Times (june 12)
headline is "Dogtown, USA" (see story for photos, here's the text):
THE real-life Lords of Dogtown still see skateboarders as outsider heroes who tackle bone-crushing steeps, break the law, fight, drink, swear and generally just offend the mere "civilians" who walk rather than ride.
"We get the beat-down from all over," said Tony Alva, who is played by Victor Rasuk in "Lords of Dogtown," the new film about young Southern California skateboarders in the mid-1970's, whose speed and agility changed the sport. "Everywhere we go, man, people hate us."
Yeah, right. Sony Pictures, a major Hollywood studio, spent $25 million on a movie aimed at a tiny audience of rebels. Better yet, the film's multimillion-dollar marketing campaign included a traveling art exhibition - with skateboards behind plexiglass - because the sport is so hated and devoid of mainstream respect.
Truth is, the ultimate outlaw road sport is now about as countercultural as yoga. What began as a marginalized activity, prohibited by many communities and embraced by early skaters for its go-to-hell attitude, has morphed into a mainstream youth sport dominated by doting parents and rules about safety. Its bad-boy past no longer defines it except as a marketing hook for the $17 T-shirts and $66 skate shoes that bring in eight times as much money as skateboards.
Among the new breed are polite, friendly skaters like Chris Atanasov, 18, who prefers to ride at the New York City-owned skate park in Riverside Park, where helmets are required, because he doesn't want to pay a fine for using the streets. Or Abby Devlin, 13, who was at a New Jersey mall last week buying sneakers at the Vans store even though she doesn't own a board. Or Greg Falchetto, 19, a Middlesex County College sophomore who said he sees skateboarding as simply an extension of his passion for punk.
"It's about a fashion thing now, more than anything," said Michael Brooke, the publisher of Concrete Wave, a skate magazine. "The amount of money spent on 'Dogtown' or the money in the shoe and clothing business is so enormous and so far away from the soul of what skating really is."
The numbers are large. More than $4.4 billion was spent last year on skateboard "soft goods," like T-shirts, shorts and sunglasses, according to Board-Trac, an action-sports research firm. Skateboarding equipment, including helmets, brought in a measly $809 million.
And while a survey by the National Sporting Goods Association showed that at least 10 million Americans used skateboards last year, up from 5.6 million in 1993, the growth comes primarily from those under 12. Most people drop the sport before they turn 20.
"Skateboarding now doesn't dominate peoples' lives," said Iain Borden, the author of "Skateboarding, Space and the City: Architecture and the Body" (Berg, 2001), a history of the sport. "People's cultural and lifestyle choices and allegiances are more complicated."
Most so-called skaters are only buying in superficially, he explained, by wearing hooded sweatshirts or playing video games like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater or watching the X Games, which put extreme skateboarding on television in the early 90's.
The decreased dedication to the sport may also be a function of age. Rock 'n' roll's edges have been blunted over the years, as stars like Mick Jagger sober up and wrinkle. Skateboarding seems to be experiencing a similar shift toward maturity and self-preservation.
Mr. Alva, a curly haired, hard-charging ruffian in the 1970's, says he still skates and surfs nearly every day at 47, but admits he can't party or skate as hard as he used to.
"You have to start thinking about your health," he said by telephone from his store in Oceanside, Calif. "We have the same attitude, but we make wiser decisions."
Alan Gelfand, 43, the creator of the ollie, a no-hands aerial feat that is the basis of most skating moves, said that everyone who visits his 11-foot-deep, 75-foot-long bowl in Hollywood, Fla., must wear a helmet.
"It's just the culture we live in today," he said. "I've been a helmet kind of guy for a while."
Even many parents - as if the sport needed yet another imprimatur of uncool - have taken up skateboarding as a way to bond with their children. Some say it's more fun and better organized than Little League.
Sherri Cruz, for example, a marketing assistant for the International Association of Skateboard Companies, is a member of the International Society of Skateboarding Moms. She said she skates regularly with her 10-year-old daughter, Rhiannon. They often go to events for girls sponsored by the shoe company Vans, which has a long association with skateboarding.
This mother and daughter also regularly visit skate parks. These sunny ramp-laden obstacle courses are perhaps the most visible reflection of skateboarding's softened edges. There are now nearly 2,000 parks throughout the country from mi
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Trivia Time
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On 6/10/2005
Chris Chaput
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United States
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Which skater in the Lords of Dogtown movie is doing stuntwork as Lindsay Lohan's skate double in Herbie: Fully Loaded? He/she is not yet credited for Herbie in the IMDb so you can't cheat.
lbk, If you had seen all of the sets and locations and actors and extras and...
I couldn't afford to buy everyone lunch on a single day on a single location. The union wages are incredible. They had to give me a trailer every day I was on the set because I was a "principal character", even though I got about as much screen time a an extra!
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Money, Money, Money?
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On 6/10/2005 lbk
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United States
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First off, Lords of Dogtown is a fun movie to go see. Sure beats the most of the typical Hollywood movies, TV shows, Cable & DVD's. But for the life of me. Why in the heck would it cost 25 to 30 million to make a movie like this. How much does an old z-flex Ago for on e-bay? A $100,000.00? I guess that pool cost a million to build. Not like Arnold Schwarzenegger was in the movie blowing up helicopters and wrecking entire city blocks of buildings. Then again, I have no concept of movie making expenses.
Who cares about all the money lost. Not our risk to worry about. Go see Lords of Dogtown and have a good time -then sneak into Herbie the Love Bug re-make.
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