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Q&A: Chris Yandall on Skogging (417 Posts)
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efficient push deck
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On 3/28/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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The RollsRolls is the best push-oriented drop deck in my book - its ultralight, and the key on this one for distance, is using soft riser pads plus carvy trucks and wheels to take care of shock absorbption. Most efficient combination in my quiver is the one pictured on the left, Original truck up front (Revenges are nice too...) Gullwing Cruiser 60 in back, 97mm 75a Flywheels. The deck is mostly stiff, but has a nice 'pop' inherent to carbon fiber. Those fenders are extremely useful in Seattle where it rains a lot (arrrgghhh) including this morning, as I get ready to head out! If Chaput makes his 97mm's in Retro urethane, I'll have to start selling organs on eBay...
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efficiency
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On 3/28/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
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So is the Rolls Rolls the most efficient production board for distance/endurance?
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low,low ,low
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On 3/27/2006 herbn
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United States
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low is the major factor in efficiency, build it low enough, but leave it far enough off the ground to allow for a comfortable flex, flex does increase efficiency by reducing fatigue. Springy materials like carbon reduce the amount of energy absorbed by the board.
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flex and pushboards
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On 3/27/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
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I've heard from some skaters that flex takes away from the efficiency of pushing/pedeling, and others have said that you increase eficiency by allowing the flex to store and release energy. Also, since some dampening of road shock and vibration is nice, does the flex actually help to eliminate fatigue? In thinking about the ideal distance board, what do you guys think would be best? Lightweight, low deck, large diameter wheels, flex/no flex?
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Mongo
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On 3/27/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
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Tried Mongo both natural and goofy yesterday. Since I was already skating switch, it wasn't a difficult transition. Now I get the difference-no coast time, and a more fluid rhythem. Hope my two-footed carving skills don't degrade!
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Have I been Skogging?
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On 3/24/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
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I'm 53 and have been riding longboards for around 6 years now. I hadn't been on a skateboard since my steel wheeled Rinky Dink days in the 60's till I spotted a 45" board with 66mm wheels. From the first day I hopped onto my Gravity Classic Concave I realized that I must learn to ride goofy if I'm gonna do it for a cardio workout, and have been switching stance every 2-4 minutes with never a mongo.(cause I never even thought of it) I'll go anywhere from 30 minutes to 3 hours depending on weather and mood. Never "Skumped", but then again never heard of it till yesterday. Have I been Skogging without realizing it or is the technique something more specific?
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Cut the Jive and Jog article
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On 3/21/2006
Marc F
wrote in from
United States
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Chris, it would be great if you could post the Cut the Jive and Jog article on one of your websights so we can read it.
Marc
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Cliff! Skogging! y0! The Roll Your Own Exercise
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On 3/21/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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I'm not ignoring everyone, I'm simply out-of-control busy with web application contracts. Been up late nights coding up storms for cash. But I never fail to get out at least 3-5 times a week to rage down the mission/pacific beach boardwalk freaking people out by clowning around the 10-12mph mark switching feet, pumping and making faces at cute babes everywhere :D
And a clinic sounds like a great idea Cliff. Give me a few weeks to try to organize my thoughts and actually offer a document that outlines my process. There is a method to pick up quick that requires stationary exercises.
You'd be amazed at my leg tone. My GF agrees that skogging is key for building studly leg muscles from calves to thighs. She blades while I skog. So she gets to see and hear peoples comments on what I'm doing. There is a lot of amazement to doing it properly. There is a boring way to skog which requires tight trucks and big wheels for maintaining a 15mph clip for smiles and smiles... and there is an exciting way to have a kick ass time with super looose originals on a cambered/concave 38"-ish deck which involves sweeping one foot carves, mixed with alternating feet pushes and pumping at a 8-10mph clip.
Not everyone finds a natural tendency to switch feet to push and that is why this bloody message board thread exists. It is here to spice up the sidewalk surfing, pumping, alternate styles skateboard threads. So if you were doing it before this board showed up cool. I have a magazine article I wrote for skateboarder magazine back in the mid 70's outlining this technique which probably predates most of the viewers here....
Skatboarding is such a great sport. The industry is now ruled by the youngsters with their passion to slide down stair rails and get danny way air. It is also large enough to include skogging as a viable way to get exercise for some of us wanting less body impact demands. I need everyone to get this technique wired and pushed on the younger kids that can benefit them in many ways. Balance, aerobic and mental consistency is all part of the skogging persuasion.
and hey! Rene! that aint me! I dont fall off my board in the water :P
somebody wanna know about my decks? when you buy a skogging sticker, you'll get a hardcopy order form....
visit www.skogging.com. soon there will be a link to get a skogging sticker.
cheers mates and be back soon!
Chris [cYa] Yandall
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Note to Chris
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On 3/20/2006
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Chris,
Congratulations on your page here at NCDSA!
I would still love to run a clinic for the kids in your area. Let's see what we can do. Please e-mail me and we can talk.
Cliff Coleman
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okay
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On 3/20/2006 isabelle
wrote in from
United States
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guess i've been skogging for quite a while the....... when i skate uphill, skogging keeps my thighs from blowing-up....... i never knew switchfoot pushing/alternating had a name!!!!! learn something new every day.......
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Chris......Skogger Mania !
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On 3/19/2006
Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco
wrote in from
United States
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Chris -
What the heck !
- - -is that you ?
http://www.newportsurfshots.com/IMG_7581.jpg
-hmmmmm.
Take care, ...............-Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco.
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Skogging...
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On 3/19/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
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From www.skogging.com:
"Skogging, the roll your own exercise", is the art and sport of using both legs/feet to propel one's skateboard. By simple definition, it is jogging with your skateboard. You alternate your pushing legs.
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skogging
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On 3/18/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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is short for skating oops it's not really short is it ,actually it's exactly the same,if you skate around,instead of walking/running/JOGGING(primative pedanderthal behavior),you skog.
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stupidity
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On 3/17/2006 isabelle
wrote in from
United States
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duhhh....... what's skogging for a not-so-easy way to ask a stupid question?
i searched for the answer, but so many posts/words got in the way.
thanks and make sure you stop laughing by time i see you next!!!
PEACE always looking for a new "ride" skater 4 life
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8 Mile Skogging session
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On 3/11/2006
Marc F.
wrote in from
United States
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I went for an 8 mile skogging session a couple days ago. I'm still having problems when it's time alternate my pushing legs but I'm getting better. If feels more natural everytime. I used a 42' Gravity Mini Carve with Tracker 149's and red Krypto's last time and it works great for skogging but not that great for pumping. My Yandall Wreckreation Cruiser works great with Gumballs and Tracker Race tracks. It is really good for pumping. I also use a Gravity 37" Diamond Tail with Randall 150's and 75a Grippins. All the decks are fun in their own way. I will try to send some pics if the weather would cooperate. Later, Marc
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Skogging Deck...
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On 3/10/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
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Any news on the Chris Yandall signature skogging/pumping deck?
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Mongo Clarification
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On 3/10/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks. So it's basically the backside portion of the push i.e. backfoot towards the rear. So if a mongo pusher learns to skog, then the opposite push once mastered might lead to new habits :D
hey hc. will try to have a look at those too but for now, my orignals are doing the trick for flatland cruising. you up for a skog? let me know.. i hang out at MB boardwalk often and getting hooked up there might be easy.
and that taco motion dude... damn PB locals everywhere! that food is typical mexican food in san diego but their ceviche rocks! even taco surf works :P
still kickin down the skogging doors in the hood here. this spring looks like sidewalk surfing is ready to rock again.
cheers everyone cYa
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taco motion
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On 3/9/2006 flywheel on the wall
wrote in from
United States
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so did you and your lady friend get to finishing the hot peppers at taco motion you were unable to handle. did they remember just to put them on the side and not in your burrito. how much skogging did it take to work off taco motion?
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super loose originals
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On 3/2/2006 hc
wrote in from
United States
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Hi Chris, finally got around to checking this section.
I notice your originals look crazy loose, are there even springs in it?
I have skated exkate with no bushings and found it unskateable. you should give exkate a try too, you can reshape the barrel bushing to alter the resistence.
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Mongo and Austin
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On 3/1/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
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A skater's stance is either "regular" or "goofy". Goofy is standing right foot forward. Regular is standing left foot forward. "Switch" is riding goofy if you're regular, or regular if you're goofy. Fakie is rolling backwards without adjusting your stance to switch.
A skater's push is either "regular" or "mongo". Mongo is pushing with your front foot. Regular is pushing with your back foot.
Skaters brake either regular or mongo. Here I am, a regular footer braking mongo on a toeside turn. Can you say "sketchy"?
Here's another example of a disadvantage in pushing mongo. Notice how Dave Rogers looks as if he's further back from the line than the others? He is. In order for a mongo pusher to hover over the line like the others, he has to go up onto the ball of his foot on the deck. A big thrusting push makes it too easy to twist your back foot. Your heel placement is off of the centerline and you steer off to one side. Mongos have to push harder to get out front. --- Jaybyrd is very observant. I pushed the 6 wheeler up the course and alternated my push foot. When I alternate every push, it's to practice the actual switching of the push foot. Practice makes progress. I like to make it look as if it is easy, but there are a lot of little micro-adjustments going on under foot. I'll always be a better mongo pusher and braker, but switching feet is definitely a noble cause. When I push for efficiency or distance, I'll count off three or four pushes on one side before setting that foot down and pushing using the other. I also "cheat" and lean my left wrist onto the top of my left knee while swinging my right arm, and then do the same thing on the left side.
If you ride a longer deck, both regular and mongo pushing can be done on the front half of the deck, so you don't have to worry as much about rear steering.
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mongo
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On 3/1/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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mongo is a term to describe someone who pushes with the foot that ends up by the front truck,reg or goofy foot. Mongo is a problem in areas where space is limited but pushing is needed,like a rollin or a jump with a short approach, a mongo rider has keep his back foot off the tail while pushing and then quickly move it to the tail. A beginner starting off in a half pipe,who's a mongo pusher has a tough time.
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what the mongo?
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On 3/1/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
not sure about these mongo terms. someone please define it since what I've read sounds like a wobbly mix of stance.
on my stable board, with tight ass trackers, it's quite boring skogging straight lines. after a nasty hangover, this deck does wonders to clean me out. making videos of someone skogging straight lines is so boring.
that is easily solved with a super loose set of originals for wobbly ass fun and a super total body workout. that my friend, is skogging at it's best! those that can't find the center of loose originals, may someday understand that when you see it live, it's more than a misperception....it freakin can rock your skateworld. you can switch pump on demand with a switch foot lead to force either pump stance.
cYa
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skogging
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On 3/1/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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is just jogging on a skateboard,right? i think if you look at the picks of yandall rolling and figure you have to roll in the same stance,you might be stich mongo or whatever. Actually if skogging is for symetrical fitness/muscle development then you would be pushing regular stance mongo everyother push,i've done this for years,,when going up slight hills mostly. If you could get this switching push wired,as in doing it naturally at all times and never being a wobbly mess, you would indeed have an excellent pushing style for distance racing.
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What the?
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On 3/1/2006
Laura
wrote in from
United States
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Tried skogging around the block... would I be correct in assuming that when you skog you are essentially going to be pushing switch mongo?
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Chaput Skogger by Heart
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On 2/27/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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Chaput has incredible balance since he early teens. His freestyle routines natural use of both legs to propel was not uncommon. Russ, Skitch, Weed, Page all could feel the sense of balance required for complex freestyle movement.
I skogged with Chris on the Mission Beach boardwalk for a pretty good distance. He is indeed a smooth dude! But what do you expect from a pro?
Cheers cYa
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