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On 4/29/2008
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Ouchh!
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Slalom site
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On 4/28/2008 PSR
wrote in from
United States
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Munchh, that's how the ISSA website is set-up; keeps lurkers where they belong, on the Outside...
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world records
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On 4/28/2008
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Not sure why but everytime i go back to that thread i need to ask for my user name and password?
If anyone is interested, world records should be set with 'clean runs', criddling makes it not the same coarse as the next run unless you hit the same cones, how could that ever be right?
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ISSA recognized World Records
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On 3/4/2008 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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There is a discussion and a poll for ISSA members to help decide which courses the ISSA will recognize for World Records, and what the attributes of the course are.
If you want to participate in that, go here:
http://www.slalomskateboarder.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=5949
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Low participation in rule voting
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On 12/19/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
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PSR wrote: "However, I hope it dosen't continue like this, where one 'group' putting on events, states a 'rule', and it becomes sanctioned as LAW with less than 50% of elligible RACERS voting."
The 'group' is the members of the ISSA. The rules (LAW) only apply to ISSA events. 50% voting??? I only WISH it were anywhere near that high a percentage...
Do you have experience with any national or international sports organization or other volunteer group where you can get more than 50% of the eligible people to vote? Do you know how that is achieved? In my experience it is always just a few, interested, energetic people who vote or otherwise participate. That's just the way things are.
You can't really expect the interested, energetic, involved people in the ISSA to wait until there is over 50% of the RACERS to become involved before we move forward with the rule-making and other business of the ISSA? If we wait for this, NOTHING will get done.
The wheel-thing could have easily gone either way with a bit more participation. We opened the door, invited everyone, begged for participation -- did you vote?
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Thanks, and Aloha
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On 12/18/2007 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Pat, thanks {yet again} for your endless work in helping put together good, clear rules for the racers to go by.
I'm still ticked with 6-wheelers (or 8 wheelers, for that matter) being considred to be 'not' skateboards. The voting seemed very much like being in Florida's 4th Ward in '00... Disenfrachised dosen't even describe the inability to participate, but it's done. I'll still race in local NON ISSA races, and coach for tose who want to be at ISSA races. However, I hope it dosen't continue like this, where one 'group' putting on events, states a 'rule', and it becomes sanctioned as LAW with less than 50% of elligible RACERS voting. Especially if TRADITION or INNOVATION is tossed on it's ear to please a few. If these factors are ignored, we'll soon have NO CHANGE, and contests that have NO ROOTS. I've seen what that attitude has done to Snowboard Racing, I've fought that battle, too... And other than a few riders I've coached, I've LOST THE WAR. It's evident, too, just by how RACING is portrayed in SNOWBOARDING. Trust me, don't even go there, it's UGLY.
Good luck with the effort nonetheless, I hope it works out for the better, somehow.
And to all whom I've raced with, or met while Racing, THANK YOU!! + Merry Christmas!! You're all awesome, especially for JUST, ONLY, being the skaters you are!! Ride Fast, take Chances. :-D
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ISSA SLALOM racing Rules Available
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On 12/18/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(24.22.nnn.nnn)
The ISSA Rules are now published. They are available at:
Click here for link
Click here for link
The best way to print these rules is by using your printer driver to make a booklet (2 pages per sheet, landscape paper, fold in middle). This will print all 16 pages on 4 sheets of paper, 1/2 sheet per page, so it can be folded in a booklet form.
If your printer cannot handle printing in booklet form, then you can conventionally print the rules on either 8 sheets (duplex -- one page on each side), or 16 sheets (simplex -- one page per sheet of paper).
Contest organizers and racers are encouraged to become familiar with these rules, as ISSA sanctioned events will be run using these rules. (Minor exceptions as indicated on the contest sanction application are allowed.)
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ISSA Rules -- voting complete
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On 11/30/2007 Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(24.22.nnn.nnn)
I want to thank everyone who participated in the rules update process -- those who voted, those who made proposals for changes, those who pointed out inconsistencies and problems, those who made arguments for/against various options.
The results can be viewed at www.slalomskateboarder.com -- in the "Members Voting" area.
The next step will be to incorporate the will of the members (the outcome of the voting) into the rules. The ISSA Board of Directors will then review the final rule book to make sure it matches the voting results, and then it will be published.
Again, Thank you for participating.
-- Pat
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ISSA Rules Voting Available
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On 11/14/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(24.22.nnn.nnn)
The public comment period is now closed for the 2008 rules update.
The next step in the process is to vote on the counter-proposals to the rules.
This voting forum will be open from Nov15 thru Nov30. After the vote is completed, the rules document will be updated to incorporate the result of the vote, and then published for use in 2008.
The suggested method is
1. Print the original draft proposal (see URLs at end)
2. Print the ballot. (see URL's at end)
3. Decide what to vote on
4. Proceed to the voting forum and cast votes Click here for link
[b]You may view the ballot here in 3 forms:[/b]
As a WORD document: Click here for link
As a PDF document:Click here for link
As a Webpage:Click here for link
[b]You may view the draft rules here in 3 forms:[/b]
As a WORD document: Click here for link
As a PDF document:Click here for link
As a Webpage:Click here for link
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2008 ISSA Rules Draft: Your comments sought
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On 10/15/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(24.22.nnn.nnn)
The 2008 ISSA update to the racing rules is ready for public comments at the following location (replace _ with . )
http://www_slalomskateboarder_com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=174&sid=e57877a09d7d2e5fd88bf50096083382
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"ALIADOS"
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On 8/9/2007 NegoLaranja
wrote in from
Brazil
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Ae galera do Sul chapa quente o rolé no domingão, churrasquinho, breja, veludinho e um tal de "tello" que me apresentaram, foi loko o rolé no SJD pela manhã a tarde andamos na Saibreira, no final rolou aquela confraternização era um zoando do outro....fza essa união de vcs,continuem assim isso que faz o esporte crescer, senti na pele,tomei só bucha, 100 palavras!!!!
Aquele abraço...
Silon, Lampião, Punk, Been, Lipe, Vermelho, DaLua
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Slalom in Brazil ISSA
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On 8/3/2007 Gardenal
wrote in from
Brazil
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www.diorandi.com
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Banked Slalom
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On 6/18/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(15.252.nnn.nnn)
The ISSA does not recognize the banked slalom as a separate discipline.
A banked slalom race could be tight, hybrid (special), GS, Super-GS It all depends on the steepness, length, and cone spacing.
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On 6/5/2007
cabbaGe
wrote in from
United States
(76.100.nnn.nnn)
banked slalom (ditch) needs its own deal, completly different set ups then GS..does the ISSA have a banked slalom division?
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Ditch or "banked" slalom racing
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On 1/8/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(67.189.nnn.nnn)
I received a question from a race organizer in New Mexico where they like to race in ditches (banked concrete) rather than on roads or sidewalks.
If he applies for an ISSA sanction for his event (GS race on banked ditch), should it be considered just as though it were held on a street?
My personal opinion is YES, because the similarities outweigh the differences:
Cones, cone penalties, downhill incline, turns, speed, starting line, finish line, timing, long race course (compared to tight slalom) .... all of these are indistinguishable from a "normal" GS race.
But I'd like to hear other opinions on this.
Would it make a difference if he were applying for a higher status (MAJOR, MAIN), rather than a lower status (PRIME, BASIC, PLAIN) ??
What do we say, do events held on a ditch count?
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2007 North America Contest Coordinators
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On 1/6/2007
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(67.189.nnn.nnn)
In 2007, ISSA contest sanction applications in North America will be handled by the 3-person Contest Coordiantion team of: Chris Barker, Eddy Martinez, Pat Chewning. A similar body is being organized for Europe.
After considering the information in the application for status, the contest coordinators will assign a status to the race (Major, Main, Prime, Basic ... these determine the World Ranking points possible for each race).
Please apply early enough to attain the status you are seeking: Major -- 4 months Main -- 3 Months Prime -- 2 Months Basic--none
Obtain the sanction application here and send to Pat Chewning, Chris Barker, or Eddy Martinez:
http://www_slalomskateboarder_com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4657
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World Championships granted to DHB
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On 12/23/2006
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(67.189.nnn.nnn)
The ISSA Board of Directors have voted and will grant the Downhillbillies (Marion Karr) the 2007 World ISSA World Championships.
27-30 September 2007
Statesville, NC, USA
http://www_slalomskateboarder_com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4674
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ISSA Contest Sanctioning Process
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On 12/17/2006
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(67.189.nnn.nnn)
Contest organizers who wish to submit their contest for ISSA World Ranking status may view the sanctioning process and download the application form here:
Click here for link
(You may have to replace the "_" with "." to follow the link.
Claude is working on getting ISSA regional contest coordinators for the USA and Europe in place for 2007. They will be the people granting the contest status (MAJOR, MAIN, PRIME, BASIC) [aka 4-cone, 3-cone, 2-cone, 1-cone] to each contest.
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Rules and Regulations review
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On 11/8/2006
Claude Regnier
wrote in from
Canada
(69.199.nnn.nnn)
We are working on the rules for ISSA and would like anyone who is genuinally interested to take part in the discussions and descision making process on the other slalom sites.
http://www_slalomskateboarder_com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=174
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ss.com temporarily down
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On 9/17/2006 Jani
wrote in from
France
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Leo wrote "what happened at slalomskateboarder.com?"
Leo, some junior hacker deleted some forums and caused some other trouble, so I needed to restore the latest backup, merge it with the current data and at the same time update the forum software to the latest version.
As you've most certainly seen, it's up again since some time.
/Jani
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the website
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On 8/21/2006
Leo
wrote in from
United States
(67.87.nnn.nnn)
what the hell happened at slalomskateboarder.com?
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New ISSA
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On 8/9/2006
Claude Regnier
wrote in from
Canada
(70.25.nnn.nnn)
Directions
Okay so the elections took place in February and since then I’ve had a chance to speak with a lot of people about ISSA the old and the New.
The Old Rules do not need a complete overhaul.
I would like to see workgroups formed as suggested. Corky and others spent a lot of time on the rankings and I’d like to see Pat Chewing – VP of ISSA Chair the workgroup in charge of reviewing this area. Pat can work with Corky and others to figure out a better way to do this but maintaining a degree of flexibility for growth is a must.
Race Rules – Again these do not need to be totally revamped just some refinements. Is there a BOD member that would like to Volunteer to Chair a workgroup to discuss this area.
Other areas that need to be dealt with is ISSA and Media relations – We need to get a video about ISSA and holding a Sanctioned events in your community – Benefits for all –
Memberships – Sponsors and such
Organizers list could also be included in the new manual along with the Card System for cone Judges.
We (the BOD) need to be sure to speak with each other on a weekly basis about proposed changes or difficulties. The rest of you please contact me to figure out what you would like to work. I would suggest that you try to get someone from different areas for input in each and every topic up for discusion and change.
There is a lot of info within the site, it would be good to include and add as much as possible to inform people.
We really need to get this all done by the end of November in order to get the new rules and regulations out for Jan 2007.
The time is now folks. Step up and take charge. There are a lot of people that talk a good game so now is the time to put your money where your mouth is.
I will accept suggestions from anyone. If you are interested in voicing your opinion in an area please contact me and I will let you know who you are working with should it not be posted anywhere.
Thanks & Good Luck
ISSA – President
Claude Regnier
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ISSA Forum Registration
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On 7/12/2006
Cliff
wrote in from
United States
(69.142.nnn.nnn)
I'm having trouble registering on the ISSA forum.
Every time I try to register it goes back to the first page of the registration, and after a few tries it tells me that I cannot make another attempt during "this session".
I am rather confused and would like to be able to use the ISSA forum, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Please send me an email if you know how to fix this.
Thanks,
Cliff
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ISSA Decision on 6-wheels and equipment
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On 4/13/2006
Pat Chewning
wrote in from
United States
(15.243.nnn.nnn)
The ISSA board of directors has made the following decision on the use of 6-wheel skateboards and other controversial equipment.
Click here for link
The ISSA Board of Directors has formulated the following decisions/recommendations in response to the current use of 6-wheeled skateboards in competition.
A) Who decides if 6-wheelers (and other controversial equipment) are allowed or not? (ISSA decision: Race organizer)
B) Will the race results be accepted in the World Ranking (ISSA Decision: Yes)
C) Does the ISSA encourage race organizers to be as unrestrictive on race equipment as possible? (ISSA Recommendation: Yes, as long as it is still a "skateboard".)
D) Does the ISSA encourage further division of races into equipment classes? (ISSA Recommendation: No, but this is a better alternative than disallowing [banning] controversial equipment. See also the limitation on awarding WR points in item G)
E) Does the ISSA encourage race organizers to proactively keep track of controversial equipment usage and to publish their intent to allow/disallow certain equipment? (ISSA Recommendation: Yes, decisions by race organizers should be published in the race promotional materials.)
F) Does the ISSA encourage racers contemplating the use of controversial equipment to contact race organizers to get an advance ruling before showing up for a race? (ISSA Recommendation: YES)
G) If a race organizer decides to separate a race into classes based on equipment used, should both races be deemed separate "disciplines" and both count in the World Ranking? (ISSA Decision: NO, only a single race discipline per event can count in the World Ranking, and this should be the race discipline with the most "traditional" and "uncontroversial" equipment class. It is for this reason that the ISSA discourages the practice of separate equipment classes (see item D above).
H) Does the ISSA encourage race organizers to ban or disallow contoversial equipment: (ISSA Recommendation: NO, if the equipment is close enough to be called a "skateboard" then it should be allowed.)
ISSA Board of Directors: April 2006
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Sound of wind blowing.....
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On 4/5/2006
Michael
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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