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On 3/22/2002 Andy
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One other question. It sounds like people are using RII B's. Why don't people use the Downhills instead? Is the steering too slow??
Thanks. andy
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On 3/22/2002 Andy
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Thanks everyone. I guess I got in the natural way too (from stand-up downhill). HC had some good sites listed too.
So I like my 58"x10" still but I wanna build a "legal" buttboard now. Haven't made a board for a while, so a new project should be fun.
Thanks again!
PS. it's been in the 50's or better most of the Winter, and today it is 22 degrees. Go figure!
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On 3/22/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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Tommy, you speak the total truth. That's pretty much how I started. I had a short board then I thought let's go own the hill on it. So I did then I heard about streetluge and butt boarding so I bought a 49'' inch long board and I decided to try this intresting sport ever since then I've been hooked. Peace
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On 3/22/2002
Tommy
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Andy, when I got into "buttboarding" something like 4 years ago, I did not know that there is a sport called "streetluge"... My friends and me sometimes just bombed down some hills in our local area until we heard about an crazy event in the austrian alps called "hotheels". It looked pretty much like what we did on our local hills, except the steepness and the incredible speed. We decided to compete the following year and since then I'm hooked. Then and that was the first time I saw a Streetluge. Buttboarding is very similar to the luge, you lay down as well (probably you sit up a few times e.g. in corners, but this depends on the technique...). A quite "hard" difference compared to the luge is that you have to hold up your feet (and legs) while riding and that is the main reason why most of the guys design their boards a bit longer in the front. To support holding up your legs. There is nothing wrong in using your largest skateboard and to sit with your butt right behind your front trucks is probalbly the most stable way. I am still riding my "normal" standup longboard when buttboarding (even for the races...). cheers
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On 3/21/2002
E.K.
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Time trials sounds great. After experiencing the 2002 Winter Olympics here in Utah and watching the different disiplints racing down the "luge" course in Park City (especially the skeleton), this idea has the same appeal. I give a yes and would like to sign up. and by the way, where is Dinosaur Point? Peace.
ek
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On 3/21/2002
E.K.
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Hey Steve,
That would be an excellent format for this field. After having the winter olympics here in Utah and watching the different disiplints of racing down the "luge" course in Park City (especially the skeleton), I think this would be interesting and has public appeal. I think also this would bring back the excitement of "Signal Hill" days(for those of us who were there...). I give a "yes" to it and I would like to sign up. And yea... where is Dinosaur Point?
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On 3/21/2002
hc
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andy, see buttboarding.com
and my site www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
they will answer you q's
malcolm, glad to see you write clear posts, looking back at your old posts, they are pretty hilarious.
tommy, i have a set of xtreme 8balls, they are 85mm, i believe.
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On 3/21/2002
Andy
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Hey, for someone who doesn't really know what buttboarding officially is, can someone take a shot at explaining the finer points?
From another post I found, I am pretty comfortable what the board spec's are, but is this just luging with a cheaper board. Or is it a sit down event compared with lying down? Or maybe both are useful techniques.
Also, why do people seem to design these boards with more board in front of the front wheels? I try to ride my largest skateboard with my butt just behind the front truck screws (like if I was standing on a bombing run). Is this correct for buttboarding?
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks for the help!
Andy
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On 3/21/2002
Andy
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This sounds really cool. Especially the different classes. I have never raced but would love to try something like this against people with as much experience!
Cool Idea!
Where is this place??
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On 3/21/2002
Steve Pearl
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Is there interest in "Time Trial" Event(s) @ Dinosaur Point?
We now have the ability to time runs consistently on the Dinosaur Point Road.
That being the case I need to have feed back from riders as to their committment to competing in "Time Trial" event(s) comparable to the format that is used in ice luge, bobsled and skeleton in the Olympics. One rider against the "hill", with multiple runs (possibly 2-4) added together with the lowest combined time of the multiple runs ranked to determine placement.
Possible
Classes: Luge (pegged or pegless)
Classic Luge (buttboard)
Standup (rider must demonstrate
ability to stop)
Inline (rider must demostrate
ability to stop)
Gravity Bike
Depending upon rider committment possibly having pro and amature or "rookie" classes
Purse to be determined based upon a percentage of the total entry fees for a discipline.
Please understand that this is a "rough" concept.
What is needed at this time is knowledge as to your committment to this type of format.
Time is of the essence!!!! I will need all responses no later than 7:00am Monday 3/25/02.
Basically we need a "yes" or "no" response.
Imput as to specifics would be appreciated, but the "yes" or "no" committment is what will be the determining factor.
Postings are helpful, direct email to us would be most beneficial.
I will not be able to answer email individually, but will send a "bulk" email to all and will post a copy to the bbs.
Riders that had Excite@home please let me have your new email address.
Thanks,
Steve Pearl
Wild Fro Racing LLC
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On 3/21/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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In responce to hc
Just listen Tommy he has pretty good point about how important it is to slow down. I'm one of those people that has grooved 78a's. Alos when Tommy mentions some luger's use 78a's that are grooved in rain that's were I got my idea from(I first saw that idea while at home watching the X games in Philidelphia). As for the question on what wheels do I use I use the 78a flywheel, but the grooves can affect your speed and should not be used in dry weather unless you want to top off at low speeds or if the surface you are riding on is slippery when dry.
Tommy-
My exp with treads on my wheels go back as far as my exp. itself. But in certain scenarios: In Poughkeepsie, NY there is a hill called College Hill the surface is blacktop with no oil or any type of car fluid stains due to the hill being a park near a army camp. Anyway the track gets pretty slippery in the rain and I decided I will experiment with grooves in the wheels(pretty much the treads act like rain tires for car and provide traction for the wheels). I felt more like I was riding like I always would except I have to constantly watch my speed. As for your question about off-roads I never used off-roads before so I can't comment on them. But I would like to learn more about them.
-M.C
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On 3/21/2002
Tommy
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Hi guys, my personal opinion is that the "duro" and the profile of the bottom of your shoes in the rain is much more important than the durometer or type of wheel. Nothing worse than going into a hairpin without being able to reduce your speed first, right ? Ok, I've seen a few guys carving profiles into their wheels to get an effect of "rain-tyres"..., Some people use those xtrem offroad wheels e.g. on the luge to benefit from the profile in the rain... your experiences ? Are there offroad wheels around the 70 mms ? ...and please guys stop those sh*t obout newbie, oldie etc. it's boring and it's just not necessary. Cheers
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On 3/20/2002 hc
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malcolm, I never rode in the rain, so 78a is good in the rain compared to ?
78a wheels are common for general riding. (dry)
The flywheels are available in 78a and softer duros, as wells as the flashbacks.
curious, what wheels do you ride?
btw, i am 29 and just learned buttboarding last year.
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On 3/20/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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Let me correct myself use The durometer 78a in rain it may sound foolish but with slides they can be very useful.
(Also it seems that I'm the youngest on this site and i would not mind many helpful tips from the locals.
-Thanks
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On 3/20/2002 hc
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malcolm, got ya, was testing you out, see if you are for real or not. (Don't goof on this forum, you won't last long)
EK, common dude, did you read malcolm's post? "use durometer in the rain" ?!
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On 3/20/2002 Mario
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So Malcolm already knows all the anwers and gets to sucker punch me with a "I had to see if you guys were the real deal" first crap? And then you get on the bandwagon and defend him for that? Whatever.
Malcom, it is good to have another buttboarder on the forum for sure. In all seriousness, Welcome.
As you said "If you actually need any actual suggestions I will be glad to give sone of my time to answer them." I'm looking forward to your participation.
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On 3/20/2002
Andy Lally
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AAAAA MEN
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On 3/20/2002
E.K.
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Hey guys,
It is pretty sad when fellow boarders dis' each other about a sport that we all love on a site that was built to help each other improve our enjoyment and help bring a better image to this sport. Try being more constructive when posting suggestions than ragging on a guy who perhaps is new to this site. This reminds me when I played paintball... "I got a faster shooting marker! Oh, my gun holds more paint than yours!" Hey whatever... who cares how fast or how long you have been boarding. If you have been boarding that long and have all this so-called "knowledge" about the sport then help the guy to skate and love the sport just as long. I have been boarding since '77 but I am still learning and loving it. We need "newbies" to keep this sport going and growing. I'm an "oldie" but a "newbie" in the field of buttboarding and I am glad that there is a place for me to go on the internet to find and ask for help. Hey there wasn't a source like the internet when I started speedboarding back in the late '70s (yea... I'm a "Signal Hill" dinosaur). Well enough soap-box lecture... Peace.
EK
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On 3/20/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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JH,Mario
Ok guys i was just testing the local cyber atheletes as for that middle school crack that was just dirty. I do understand the wheel textures, hardness, and bearing quality. You may have been butt-boarding longer than me but I have a pretty hefty array of sports and butt-boading happens to be one of them. Anyway you should of known that I goofed when I mentioned the XSTV (I actually was writing this while 2 tweleve year olds were behind me babbling behind me about some robotic cartoon which left me no train of thought). This web site is new to me so i had to see if you guys were the real deal. But If you actually need any actual suggestions I will be glad to give sone of my time to answer them. Thankyou for the help I seen the hotheels track yesterday at hotheels.net But I recommend that you don't talk about Somebody unless you have seen them actually ride. usally I would go through 2 sets of wheels a month considering that I rode the local hills in Poughkeepsie, NY but sense I have moved to Flordia I have not had the need to.
Anyway I am asking do you or anybody you know of actually know of any hills in South Flordia?
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On 3/20/2002 hc
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ok, either Malcolm is goofing with us or he is local pro at his jr high school.
Malcolm,
durometer is a measure of the hardness of the wheel (ie 99a is very hard, 78a is soft)
hot heel is a race in Austria (no, not Australia), famous for its buttboard racing.
see my site, www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
(pics of hotheel under luge)
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On 3/19/2002 Mario
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Malcom:
#1 Click the Search link on this page. Do a search on Hot Heels.
#2 Your sophomoric banter on "durometers" is killing me! Please don't stop there, explain something else to me.
#3 "Vintage" wheels on a TVS? The words "vintage" and "TVS" don't go together. I've been skateboarding for 27 years, probably longer than you've been alive (twice as long?). I go through more wheels in a month than you'll ride in a year. Newbie? Hell yeah I'm a newbie!
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On 3/19/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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In Responce to Mario
Ok Mario when I refer to durometers being better in the rain compared to traditional vintage wheels that you would buy with let's say a XSTV 49'' longboard. But with durometers I know from previous exp. that durometers won't respond unless you push the board so the wheels slide.
But anyway unless you're a pro rider or just a newbie i recommend that you use durometers just for wet weather but for clear weather use fly wheels. Dealing with the hot heels course I just goofed with the spelling. Anyway what exactly is the hotheels course.
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On 3/19/2002 Mario
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Reply to Malcolm:
I do understand durometers, what I don't understand is how a wheel will behave until you ride it. Sometimes softer wheels grip better, sometimes they don't. Sometimes the grip is less but the slide is predictable, sometimes the grip is higher but the slide comes suddenly.
Your answer that "they work better in the rain because of their surface grip" is puzzling. What works better, durometers? What durometer? Flashbacks? Compared to what?
As for the Hotwheels course... that's a plastic track with rails and loops and such, used for racing small "matchbox" cars. Find them in your local toy store.
Or were you talking about the Hot Heels course?
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On 3/19/2002
Dave
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I am looking for Downhillers, buttboarders, Lugers anyone in the states of Texas, Arkasas, Mosouri, Kansas or Oklahoma
Give me an e-mail
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On 3/19/2002 Malcolm Campbell
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tHIS IS IN RESPONCE TO MARIO. ok Mario i understand that you don't know what is signifigantly different about durometers but i can say that they work better in the rain because of thier surface grip. I'm a little new to the cyber scene for longboarders so I'm wandering what exactly is The hotwheels course?
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