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On 5/23/2002 Darren Lott wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

www.Buttboarding.com

It just keeps getting better!

(see why).

 
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On 5/22/2002 Steve Pearl wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

If Your Coming to Streets of SF...Come to Our...PIC

3rd Annual FunDay @ Dinosaur Point
July 28, 2002
Plan to enjoy our 3rd Annual FunDay July 28th, the Day after Red Bull's "Street of San Francisco".
Come out and enjoy "The Dinosaur" as these guys did!!!!


http://www.auldovertheroad.com/lugephotos/lugephotopage39/lugephotopage39.htm

Thanks to Dave Auld for his great pictures..........

Steve Pearl
Wild Fro Racing LLC
www.WildFro.com
1-866-584-3888 1-866-Luge-888 (toll free)

 
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On 5/20/2002 DAVID HARRIS wrote in from (209.253.nnn.nnn)

SORRY, PJHAR@AOL.COM

 
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On 5/20/2002 david harris wrote in from (209.253.nnn.nnn)

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO RIDE IN THE PLACERVILLE AREA THIS WEEKEND, EMAIL ME.

 
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On 5/18/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

oops, that's
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose

 
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On 5/18/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

buttboarding.com
www.geocities.com/sanjose
(look under equiptment for the Chaput pic)

 
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On 5/18/2002 loic "la saccoche" wrote in from (213.36.nnn.nnn)

hello guys;
i'm a french boy from Argonay, France, do you know this place? i hope so. this is an EDI etape, in june 8th/9th 2002.
so, i 'm looking for buttbord website because we have create a new longboard brand: "TOMDU"; but we want to have informations about the shape for a buttboard. Does someone can help us?
my friend make the board and i shape it. i have make a shape but i don't know if it's correct that's why i want informations to improve it.thanks a lot for the answer.
for info: visite our website: www.D173.fr.st where you can see photos, videos and more about french ride!!!
tchow!!!

 
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On 5/17/2002 bob wrote in from (209.232.nnn.nnn)

hc-single pivot rear truck=horizontal axis .bob

 
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On 5/17/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

bob, what do mean by a single pivot rear truck?

 
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On 5/16/2002 PSR wrote in from (216.114.nnn.nnn)

It's really funny to me to read about the woes of those running wood 'buttboard' sleds that chew through front wheels.That's why 20+ years ago I made the 'crutchboard' with six wheels,running dual,tandem trucks up front.No bad wobs,plenty of traction,great straightline stability,but always just odd enough to be disallowed on race day. At least seeing pegless luges in races was encouraging...Meanwhile,trying to conform to the rules,I've stumbled onto a neat deck that's pretty darned inexpensive.On Ebay,I bid on 'factory seconds' from Freeboard(that snowboard simulating skateboard)and nailed one for very few $$.Check into them.The board I scooped up is 44" x 10-1/2",with twin kicks(mild ones),and a nice concave.Now all I have to do is figure out how to drop the front Randle partway through 3 layers of laminate (besides using my chisels) and wait for my sticky-backed 'soft-top' to come in from longskates(hey,$19 seatcover!).I figure a slightly tilted/dropped Randle DH with 180 hanger up front,and a negatively wedged Indy 215 at the rear,and probably Flashbacks or Payasos should get me a ride that works.

 
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On 5/16/2002 bob wrote in from (209.232.nnn.nnn)

i tried an experiment by taking out rear steer with a single pivot rear truck and now i cant get the rear end to bust loose.yike!maybe i have to add some more steerin to the front. bob

 
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On 5/14/2002 Mario wrote in from (148.87.nnn.nnn)

I've always used the 50 degree baseplate in the front, but I've gone back and forth between 35 and 50 in the rear. The last time I went out (and crashed, but that's another story) I was using 50 degrees at both ends. My first run was very sketchy, lots of speed wobbles. My second run I tightened up my trucks a lot, and I still got some wobbles but not nearly as bad. On that road, I think a 35 rear would have been ideal (I think speeds were around 65 or so). I think I may go back to 35 in the rear for everything except the parking garage.

One more reason for putting the 35 in the rear is that *I think* this will shift traction rearwards. If you're coning out your front wheels a lot, and I do no matter what I try, I think taking some steering out of the back truck will make it "push" more, which should make them break away earlier. The net result, at least in theory, is that the traction should be more balanced. Whatever the case, I've been pretty happy with 35 degrees in the rear truck.

 
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On 5/14/2002 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

I find just the opposite. When I try to run a fast-turning truck (50 degree) tighter, that's when I get wobs. Its amazing to me to see how many lugers get wobs with the 60 degree rear plates, but only scrub speed since the wheelbase is so long. Anyway, we'll see, I can't wobble any worse than on Andy's Death Board (he seems to do okay on it, though), Z-roller front and Randal 50 degree back (ah, carumba). I think tight trucks shift too much weight to the inside wheel, as the outside wheel lifts off. More lean should allow more weight shift to the inside of a turn, the concave will keep my hands off the ground. Theory meets practice on two weeks, if I crash again, all video confiscated this time !

 
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On 5/13/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

duane, i haven't experimented yet with 35deg plates, but the problem i see with 35deg plates is that you would need to run the trucks loose, thus getting wobs.

 
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On 5/11/2002 Duane wrote in from (63.48.nnn.nnn)

Two part message: Andy Lally won pro buttboard and luge at the GSI event in NH today, winning all of his heats.

Unfortunately in the last pro buttboard heat, Pete Love caught the hay and was spat back out onto the course, and Bob Schwartz having no place to go collided with him full force at 45 mph. Bodies and boards smacked hard sending Pete back into the hay with possible back injuries and Bob tumbling down the course, ending up with right ankle sprain and / or break. Somehow Chris McBride got through unscathed. I just got home from the drive so an update on their conditions should be forthcoming from someone.

 
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On 5/10/2002 Darren Lott wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

Duane,

Post pictures and be ready to race :>
We'd love to see what a cutting edge design will do. Plus I'd like to have a shot of a molded board for the Gallery.

Darren

 
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On 5/10/2002 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

Worked on my buttboard mold last nite. Mold ? Yeah, I'm gonna push the rules to the limit, add as many "luge" features as possible. Flat-concave profile, with 2-3" of pretty sharp concave on each side. Full wheel cut-outs and stringers below to add rigidity. I don't understand the use of 50 and 60 degree plates for buttboarding, the wheelbase is 33" or so just like a speedboard, where my 40 and 35 degree plates do just fine. The wheel cut-outs will allow me to lean deep, foam carved over top of them to keep me off the wheels. Been checking out the polyurethane glue (Titebond, Gorilla, etc). I'm real impressed, it foams up and fills all gaps, and gives at least 30 min. to apply clamps (or vacuum pressure in my case), unlike Titebond II where there is almost no open time with porous woods.

 
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On 5/8/2002 PSR wrote in from (216.114.nnn.nnn)

I'm with Andy and Duane on their opinion that Flashbacks are a great 70mm wheel for Standup/G.S./Cruising/and Buttboarding,but I'll toss up another wheel that I like. The Payaso Roadie Racer.It's more durable,slides without any 'hiccup' that would toss you sideways(btw,Flashbacks slide well,but are touchier in recovery),can be run until there's core showing,and are reasonably fast.They have good grip,and fair bounce,but are not as resilient as Flashback/Kryptonics/soft Paws,so they trade long-wear/predictability for ride comfort/some speed.As such,they're great training wheels,and are competitive on smooth tar or on roads that Require Slides in turns. I haven't run Avalons laying down yet,but they're also in the hunt in this size class. It's really nice to have 'options' again,isn't it?!

 
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On 5/7/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

I want handlebars on my buttboard just like this skeleton luge.

http://4.47.233.48/streetluge/images/02/edi/barrett/IMG_2766.jpg

 
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On 5/6/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

http://www.chrismcb.com/streetluge/02/edibarrett.htm
(check out the pegless luge and skeleton luge)

 
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On 5/6/2002 Andy wrote in from (65.129.nnn.nnn)

I'm with you Duane. Railed a curb on Saturday and gave up the foot to save the board. DUMB!. The board survived but my foot is on ice still.

I guess it doesn't help that I built my own.

Fun as heck though.

 
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On 5/5/2002 Darren Lot wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

A new issue is released at www.Buttboarding.com. Please check it out.

-Darren

 
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On 5/4/2002 Duane wrote in from (67.241.nnn.nnn)

Andy's right, he was ripping today on the Flashbacks. I rode buttboard for the first time today. bombed the hill standup a few times first, there's 45mph+ in the GSI new hampshire hill for all disciplines, 10% grade all the way. No problems with stand-up, although I'd prefer a frontside sweeper at the end rather than backside.

Then got goaded onto andy's buttboard. Advice to newbies: don't sit on a buttboard for the first time, with fresh Flashbacks, and head down a 45mph hill. Especially not with low-top Van's on, and slider gloves. First run terrible wobs, slid off the front at speed onto my ass. found a very loose wheel in the back, fixed it, figured that was the problem. It was, which allowed me to go real fast the next run, clean all the way, then hit the big crack at the bottom, wobs again and bucked off. Ran over my own right foot and ankle, which is elevated on a chair as I type. Which leaves only one choice:

Build one, and get good shoes and gloves by next week.

 
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On 5/3/2002 Andy Lally wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

For the question about the fastest 70mm buttboard wheels,,There is nothing out there that will be faster than the Abec 11 70mm Flashbacks. Go for the 72 or 75a

 
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On 5/2/2002 steve flusche wrote in from (208.189.nnn.nnn)

Hey there. Looking for input. What 70mm wheels are out there for buttboarding? I've looked at power paws and kryptos. What is everyone riding?

 
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