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On 3/13/2003 hc wrote in from (67.122.nnn.nnn)

also ek, regarding looking for other riders,

there should be a grass root slalom thing for finding riders.

actually, it should be done by the edi,igsa, etc.

in the mean time,

put up a webpage, and i will put a link on my site.

(for a good example of this, see www.footbag.org under clubs)

 
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On 3/13/2003 hc wrote in from (67.122.nnn.nnn)

ek, regarding traction for bike tires, i have read that the threads (sips or grooves) on bicycles tires are useless in providing extra traction or preventing hydroplaing due to the small contact patch. That smooth tires are the best.
But manufacturers continue to put grooves in their tires because the public think they work.

This is different for cars with much bigger contact patch.

the source is from jobst brandt, author of 'bicycle wheel'
but i have to dig it up.

 
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On 3/12/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Attention to anyone who does or even interested in buttboarding and lives in the great state of Utah.
If you have been up on the posting, you should be pretty much familiar with who I am. But if not, I'm E.K. Kepo'o and I am a buttboarder and stock gravity biker. I live in Utah and I am a professional firefighter with West Valley City.
I have a big interest with these gravity sport and I want to start a active list of people who buttboard or gravity bike or just interested in getting into these disiplints. Utah has the most righteous hills and places to ride and I am going to put together a information bank of these spots to ride. Also a list of names riders. I feel that this will help educate people about the sport and offer safe places to ride.
If you live in Utah and ride or are interested in getting started, e-mail me. Here's my e-mail address: ekkpo@hotmail.com

EK ("da crazy halopino") buttboarder & stock gber #70

 
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On 3/12/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Thanks sean for your view on wet racing. Now I'm not saying that it's all bad and don't try it. It's just happen to go bad for me on my buttboard on that one practice run, and it wasn't even raining at the time I crashed... just the luck of the draw.
There's a good article on a "wet" race from the UK on www.gravitybike.com and Chris Beard (an avid buttboarder) reports on it. Has some great pics.
Laters. EK

 
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On 3/11/2003 sean c wrote in from (158.136.nnn.nnn)

wet racing is very crazy. i've done it before and it changes the whole aspect of the road. easy turns become near impossible and harder turns get harder, or sometimes easier. some strong advice for rain riders is to ride flashbacks, this is coming from a person that normally rides krypto's. flashbacks have rain traction like nothing else i've ever ridden.

sean c

 
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On 3/11/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Just alittle advise on "wet" racing:
DO NOT USE GREEN KRYPTONICS!!!!!! THEY SUCK ON WET SURFACES!!! Bob Ozman tried to warn this crazy halopino...
They were the big factor that caused my San Fran Gravity Fest crash last November. The duro rating is 83a (and the color green is not the same as the color green for ABEC 11 Flash backs... no, daaahhh)and they will fly on a fairly straight and dry (understand the "dry" part) road. I have been clocked at 59 mph on the same board I crashed on so green kryptos are good. But add alittle water and speeds of 45mph+ and a off camber corner and... uncontrollable sliding... then crash! Feet first into a rock hard haybale.
Now I raced on my stock bike when the course was like a river and no fall down, go boom. And I was the fastest stock qualifier on the course. Difference? my bike had "rain" tires... the rubber had treads.
I have to admitt, it was a total rush flying down the course with other stockers next to you at 45mph plus, bikes shooting 'rooster tails' of water from their rear tire. It was an experience riding in the back of the pack... like following behind a ski doo on a lake. Yea.. it was a rush but after thinking about it... it was stupid. Hydroplanning most of the time... no real control. A unreal balancing act... The Gods must wanted to watch a stock bike race that day, and the experience gave me different appreciation of the Aerosmith's song, "living on the edge".
Thanks to a combination of skill, luck, and just plain "craziness" of the other stock gbers I rode next to, no body got hurt.
I think it's a bit ironic... I got hurt during a practice run... not a race.
Alot of people have been asking me if I will continue buttboarding. To those who say I am stupid or that if it was them, they would not, I say to them, "I'm a participate in this life... not a spectator."
Aloha and Peace.
EK (da "almost up and running" crazy halopino) Stock GBer and Buttboarder

 
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On 3/8/2003 Dick wrote in from (63.231.nnn.nnn)


Thanks for the advice, it has really paid off!

 
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On 3/4/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Sounds great brah...
I will be awaiting your info. on "fracture" leg (yea... right... ha!).

Laters.
EK

 
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On 3/3/2003 Andy wrote in from (206.210.nnn.nnn)

Hey EK,

Yea, sorry to hear about your leg. I saw some posts in here about the accident. I was actually hoping to learn a little something from the video, but nobody ever posted a link (I don't think anyway). Well, good to hear you are healing! Be smart and stay off of it.

I will definitely be in SLC. That is where I am flying to. I will send you an email when I get a chance (maybe on the weekend). I'll give you all the details as I currently know them. Then we can talk more about what's up!

Thanks! Andy

 
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On 3/3/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Hey Andy... almost forgot. Maybe by then, in May, my leg will be out of the cast (cross my fingers...) and cleared by the doc to play. And hopefully I will be testing a new stock gravity bike I have been building while my leg's been out by then.
Well the best to you.

EK

 
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On 3/3/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Howzit Andy!!!
This is the crazy halopino and I am, as far as I know and seen, the only "active" buttboarder in Utah. I don't really know what is down in Moab (spelled right... jokin') but if you are heading up towards Utah County or Salt Lake County, I can help.
Now for some "bad" info... I will not be able to ride with you on these hills (recovering from last year's San Fran Gravity Fest crash... still in leg cast) but I can either advise or even go there to watch or even video tape. Let me know by e-mail if you are coming this way.
(abit of area familiarization: Brigham Young University is in Utah County and University of Utah is in Salt Lake County, if you are familiar with these colleges)
Laters.
EK

 
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On 3/2/2003 Andy wrote in from (68.36.nnn.nnn)

Hi,

Does anyone have any information about the Twin Falls, Idaho area or Maob, Utah??

I am heading to one or both early in May and was hoping somebody had already dialed in some hills in the either area.

Thanks. Andy
www.alienXworld.com

 
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On 2/28/2003 sean c wrote in from (158.136.nnn.nnn)

the preferred setup for buttboard is flipped RII's like u have and abec 11 70mm flashbacks (i prefer 75a in the front and 72a in the back). to build your own buttboard visit here http://oz.plymouth.edu/~s_clarke/buttboard.html

sean c

 
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On 2/28/2003 EK wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

Howzit Matt!
It's great that you are interestedin buttboarding or referred as "Classic luge". Sound like you at least understand the basics of the sport. Buttboarding started out just using any skateboard and riding it down a hill on your butt. You can get further info. by going to www.buttboarding.com This site has also have a photo gallery that will inspire you to either buy one (Darren Lott's model) or build one of you own. But as a personal advise, get good protective gear! Leathers, full face helmet, leather gloves, and shoes with "tire tread" soles.
Well keep posting here and keep asking for advise. And remember to skate safe (my own personal "learned" advise...).
Laters.
EK

 
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On 2/28/2003 matt traver wrote in from (210.17.nnn.nnn)

hey,

i just built a buttboard quickly and fitted some flipper hanger R-II's with 85MM Blue K's.. and damnmnnn i took it for one run and it was so incredibly intense shooting down that long hill i was choked with excitement... so, the thing is... i'm using the trucks/wheels for my carving longboard setup and I wanan take up buttboarding... so i'm wondering what are the best wheels and trucks for longboarding (that are affordable) and how much are they (i'm looking for something i can buy online) or.. how much would a complete buttboard be? i'd appreciate it if someone could e-mail me back with an answer

thanks

matt

 
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On 2/27/2003 hc wrote in from (207.212.nnn.nnn)

dick, also the bushings need to be tightened much more compared to standup.

here's more info
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/luge.html

and for even more info, check darren lott's book.

 
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On 2/24/2003 David wrote in from (4.43.nnn.nnn)

Dick,
Make sure you sit right behind the front truck...not in the middle of the board.

 
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On 2/21/2003 Dick wrote in from (65.100.nnn.nnn)

I need some advive. I just got a new 44 inch longboard; I got the skills for riding, but when I try to tke a hill on my ass I get some serious wobbel. I can't keep the board steady. Can anyone help me.

Thanks

 
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On 2/21/2003 Gerhard wrote in from (80.121.nnn.nnn)

Hot Heels entry open !

first time ever 10.000.-- Euro pricepurse for the World Championships.

go www.hotheels.net and sign in if you are interested.

cheers Gerhard.

 
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On 2/19/2003 sean c wrote in from (158.136.nnn.nnn)


Gravity Sports International is pleased to announce the Gravity Sports Race Series Official 2003 season schedule.

1- Front Royal Virginia (November 30 2002 Completed)

2- May 24 Franklin, NH

3- June 21 Franklin, NH

4- July 26 Franklin, NH

5- Aug 9-10 2nd Annual Madison County Gravity Fest. Eaton, NY. Double points race.

6- Aug 16 Franklin, NH

7- Sept 6 TBA

8- Oct 3&4 Franklin, NH. Season Finally Championship Race. Double points race. 2 day event and season end banquet.


You will note a major new race for this season which we are very excited about. The 2nd annual Madison County Gravity Fest will be taking place August 9 & 10. We are working on special accommodation pricing for the racers and their families. We will post more information about the event and accommodations on the GSI site as it becomes available. If you were at last years event you know how much fun it was. This year we hope to take it to a new level of excitement with new classes and race divisions. Note also that the following weekend we have scheduled a race in NH. Our hope is that some racers who are traveling to NY will make the 7 or so hour trip to NH the following weekend.

RECENT POST STANDARD ARTICLE


MADISON COUNTY TOURISM

Remember that Manchester Airport NH is an affordable airport to fly into and out of.

MANCHESTER AIRPORT

We will post more information on accommodations and the events in general on the GSI websiteGSI as the details become available. We are working on special pricing for various racer related expenses. So visit the site often for the latest news.

Race #7 in September is tentatively scheduled for here in NH, But that may change. I stress may. For now make plans to be here in NH but if something changes we will give you ample time to plan.

The season finally here in NH on October 3 & 4 may change to October 4 & 5 if those dates make it easier for people. Please let me know your thoughts so we can plan that event. Keep in mind it will be a 2-day with the awards banquet to follow after racing the second day.

We are also hoping to open the road here in Franklin for recreational riding during the summer months. That schedule is still being worked on. This will be your chance to come out and play on a closed road we transportation provided in a non-competitive atmosphere.

Keep an eye on the GSI website www.gravitysi.com for any news or information pertaining to any events or happenings.

We will also use the message board at LANDLUGE FORUM to post news.

Just a quick word of THANKS TO EVERYONE who has helped make this schedule possible. This season is shaping up to be another great season of racing for GSI. We hope everyone will come out and join us for lots of great racing and fun times!

Well that’s it for now. Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.

AND STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFORMATION…………..


Tim Cayer
Gravity Sports International LLC
272 North Village Road
Loudon, NH 03307
603-783-9692
fax 413-451-2189
www.gravitysi.com

OUR BUSINESS IS GOING DOW

 
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On 2/15/2003 EK wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Again out to Tyler:
Hey... the leathers are gone. Didn't hear a word from you and there was another person who wanted it. So it's sold and that's business, bro. Sorry... tried to help you out. Hope you find a set for safe riding.

Laters,
EK

 
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On 2/12/2003 EK wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Hey! This one goes out to Tyler... the guy who is looking for some "cheap" leathers.
I e-mailed you just a few minutes ago and just to hit all the bases I figured to post one here too.
I got a used... and I mean used set of leathers that need repair. It's size 44 US and they need some work (some times duct tape helps. If you are still interested, I will let them go for $60. I said that you may have to take care of the shipment cost but if you really want them, I'll eat it. But you need to let me know this by this saturday. I'm thinking of putting them on ebay at a higher starting bid.
So give me a howler soon.

Laters,
EK

 
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On 2/12/2003 EK wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Sorry hc... I like the micro inline slalom race too. I played it backwards for some kicks... after I took my pain meds. What a rush! (LOL)
Laters brah,
EK

 
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On 2/11/2003 hc wrote in from (207.212.nnn.nnn)

yo, ek, just skip to the part where the inliner do micro slalom with micro cones, that always cheer me up! ;-)

 
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On 2/9/2003 EK wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Just letting my brother hc know that I received the video of last year's San Fran Gravity Fest and I appreciate you. It was tough for me to watch the part where I crashed (flashing back... LOL) but I got stoked with the rest.
Maybe laters I will cowboy up and watch my crash and learn.
Thanks again,

EK

 
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