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On 5/22/2002
Steve Pearl
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If you're Coming to Street of SF...Come to our
3rd Annual FunDay @ Dinosaur Point...PIC
July 28, 2002
Plan to enjoy our 3rd Annual FunDay July 28th, the Day after Red Bull's "Street of San Francisco".
Come out and enjoy "The Dinosaur" as these guys did!!!!
http://www.auldovertheroad.com/lugephotos/lugephotopage39/lugephotopage39.htm
Thanks to Dave Auld for his great pictures..........
Steve Pearl
Wild Fro Racing LLC
www.WildFro.com
1-866-584-3888 1-866-Luge-888 (toll free)
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On 5/21/2002
Dean
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What's up People,
I have never seen a streetluge shirt before. But these ones look sweet. Other stuff there too. http://www.cafepress.com/streetluge West La was cool this weekend they switched the course so there was a fun s at the bottom and you had to brake in both turns. West La is fun because it leaves zero room for error if you make one mistake it is all over for you. Non of the Streetlugers Showed up to give Jason Johnson a run for the Win. Two spots on the posium whent unchallenged. Too bad for you all who missed the fun. The race in Ohio should be the bomb. Red bull is suposed to show and bands the works. I was told it would be a big party. Oh well enough of my rant you guys keep the wheels on the road and the leathers clean.
See you at the races.
Dean
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On 5/17/2002
hc
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bob, i have seen pics of those luge trainers, steered with their feet i believe, did hear a couple of the olympic lugers were from palo alto area, would be fun to get them on a luge. (actually, i heard one guy started on a streetluge, and went on to the ice luge)
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On 5/17/2002
Gerhard
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I just heard that the flights from the staates to europe are realy expensive.
Tobi our travel consultant is able to offer flights for nearly half the price.
please go and check out www.tobis.at and click the skateboard section.
Here you got airfares from all over the world to europe.
cheers Gerhard.
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On 5/16/2002
bob
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the u.s.luge assn. held a tryouts at stanford univ. several years ago.during summer months they practice with wheels on their ice luges.[summer sleds]the one i rode was east german.cost like 1500 bucks .the under-tray was shaped with a large radius fiberglass cover.very slick.it covered up all the frame underneath.also had little hand fairings.havent tried the hand fairings but did shape up some foam for underneath my luge.really couldnt tell the difference.kinda shaped it like a dolphin or seals belly.covered up most of the kingpin bushing area.
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On 5/12/2002
hc
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Darren, I don't think anyone is saying that the Roger brothers won solely because of their mods (at least not from this forum). They are fast cause they are good riders.
The question is (from us armchair lugers) purely from aerodynamics point of view. Given a time trial, are they getting faster times compared to their non-faired equiptment? Of course, finding out the answer is often the hard part, as accurate testing is often impossible.
On the "political" side, does all this mean a green light for all lugers to start adding fairing to the underside of the luge?
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On 5/11/2002
E.K.
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I totally agree with Darren.
Recently I met Brian Lee (Utah's only "pro" luge rider I have so far met around here...) while looking for wheels at Salty Peaks Board Shop and it was great. We chat alot about the sport and how little people here even know about this sport here in Utah. It is very minimum and hopefully, like Brian said, that whenever we go out riding that we can educate and recuit more riders and interest.
Back to what Darren said... definite with the practice, not just equipment.
Hopefully soon I will be entering some of the upcoming events, buttboarding especially.
Laters and peace.
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On 5/10/2002
Darren Lott
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Enclosing the wheels is good sense and not a matter of bypassing the "Fairing Rule." Wheels on luges have been enclosed since long before the Rogers made their first board. None of my boards have ever intentionally had exposed wheels.
Open wheels have a cool "Formula 1" look so guys copy what they like without thoughts to performance or safety.
Luges with smooth belly pans exist even in the "Open Wheel" variety. Rogers have done well with their previous luges, despite open wheels and poor underside airflow.
Dave has done a redesign of his luge and it is better and faster than before. The key is a shortened wheelbase for MUCH better handling, MUCH better wheels, and now "on par" airflow. Nothing is new or untried by others long before.
Dave should get credit for an excellent integration of all the good and effective things that are going on with luge. The rest of the Rogers team contributes greatly to testing. Everyone wants to credit his wins to new equipment. Dave's SKILL is the determining factor over and over again.
I know because I ride with him weekly.
Also this. On the 70+ mph hour we practice weekly, I can draft the new "aero pegless Rogers Luge" and pass at the finish ON MY BUTTBOARD.
Anyone who wants to claim foul needs to get out and PRACTICE.
Darren
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On 5/9/2002
stevep
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hi there - don't know where else to post this - i just got back from seeing a screening of the new ESPN IMAX movie. Extreme X (IMAX coverage of the 7th Xgames in philly)...great Street Luge footage (at least 6 minutes of footage in a 45min movie) - that looks like a bunch of fun...the rain must of sucked though. just thought y'all would be interested. Chris Chaput's name (on the back of his leathers) was very visible thru the footage down the course. 8 stories of screen - a good time. the other events were pretty cool as well (esp the motorcycle jumping) but the street luge gave the best expression of speed.
ok, going back to the longboard/slalom side of the site
cheers!
steve
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On 5/7/2002
Dave
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I guess only the designer knows if it is a fairing or not. Yes,the fender additions were "styled" in an aerodynamic fashion.... no hardcore fluid dynamics or wind tunnel testing....yet.
Adding weight helps in a straight line but hurts your push start and hurts you in the turns. Use the maximum weight that you can start and turn effectively. Add the weight near the board/rider CG or distribute it evenly over the board. The 45lb weight limit can be used to your advantage.
Dave
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On 5/7/2002
hc
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ahmmm, like Duane said, I know a fairing when I see it.
Also saw a similar idea in 93? laguna seca race (Rail).
Darren Lott got a similar deal going on his pegless. Whether it will be legal on not, well that's all politics, same deal with the peg vs pegless issue.
Anyways, great looking luge, wish i can afford one.
Dave, you mention weight being a critical issue, any tips on how much weight to add, where to add it, etc?
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On 5/7/2002 Dave
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Duane,
Our boards complied with all of the current EDI rules at the time of the race. (Rules are posted on ediracing.com) EDI rules have never required a boom or pegs.
The fender systems serve a number of purposes, however, their primary function is not that of a fairing. The primary function was to keep the booms and footpegs of other boards from hooking up with our new boards. A fairing is typically defined as "a member or structure whose primary funtction is to produce a smooth outline and reduce drag". The EDI fairing rule addresses fairings in front of the riders feet which these are clearly not.
As for a 10% drag reduction....not even close. The rider's body is still the dominant factor in the drag/speed equation. Rider weight and body shape play a much larger role. Rob Ruhman was the fastest qualifier at Barrett....he is also faster (terminal velocity) than John and I on our new boards when we test at our 70mph+ hill nearly every weekend.
The "fairing rules" (IGSA and EDI)are focused on fairings for the riders body not the board. I say make your board as "slick" and safe as possible.
Dave
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On 5/7/2002 fred
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I run a 12x36 laydown with an 18 inch front extension. the go-kart guys call this extension a porch.Is this whats referred to as a boom? And no, you cant have my 12 inch trucks.Well,okay since you said please.p.s. my 12x36 turns in a lot quicker than my old style luge .shorter wheelbase?do we have a trend brewing here?
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On 5/7/2002 mikez
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If IGSA had just had a riders vote at the DHX imagine how much trouble they could have saved themselves.
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On 5/7/2002 Danny Connor
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Hey Duane,
At the beginning of the day, they had a riders meeting (like always) but also had a vote to see if the Rogers Bros could use thier luges, and no one voted against it. I think democracy works better rather than just plain dis-banding an organization!Later
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On 5/7/2002
Duane
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Boomless luges: definitely the way to go in my (nuetral observer) opinion. The booms are simply a spear waiting to really mess somebody up. I was maybe 20 feet away at the Gravity Games this year when a fallen rider was struck full-on in the legs with a slower rider's boom.
But, as a point of debate: how did the Rogers brothers get away with those front and rear fairings ? Boomless has nothing to do with it, those fairings could be fitted with or without the boom. For those who might say those aren't fairings: I know fairings when I see them are those are it. Very innovative.
Air flow under, and behind an object is more important than air flow over or in front. On a high speed course, you might as well hand over the checks. Probably a 10% reduction in drag, or more, compared to a regular luge.
So why do I care ? If I build a luge this winter, a certainty, I'd like to make sure its both competitive and legal. As for me I like the fairings, but the rules need to be clear on what is and is not legal.
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On 4/30/2002
william
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Hi everybody,
www.streetluging.net is updated with 2 riders + a giveaway.
I've just launched a monthly giveaway, this month you can win a Rocketluge Go Fast Sports tshirt, a hat, and energy drinks.
Go to the englidh version by clicking on the english flag.
See you
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On 4/30/2002
Mat Holroyd
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Any UK or European riders wanting custom luges building contact me for details.
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On 4/29/2002
Chris Chaput
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Rob Ruhman leads Biker Sherlock, Pamela Zoolalian and John Rogers out the critical second hairpin in the semifinals at Barrett Junction yesterday. Rob held on to cross the line first, John had good exit speed and went from fourth to second. Pam also passed Biker and crossed in third.
Dave Rogers had a big lead on Rat Sult, Gerek Maddox and Waldo Autry. Dave, John, Rob and Rat met in the finals.
Although it's hard to see, the Rogers Bros were on their pegless luges with fenders. EDI allowed the pegless to run and they finished #1 and #2. Good move guys.
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On 4/28/2002 DT
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Reed,
Why dont you buy some insurance first.
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On 4/28/2002
Chris Chaput
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EDI's Barrett Junction Streetluge Race
Top 4 Amateur Class:
1. Pat Moody
2. Brent DeKeyser
3. Jeremy Kahn
4. Andy Lally
Top 8 Pro Class:
1. Dave Rogers
2. John Rogers
3. Rob Ruhman
4. Rat Sult
5. Waldo Autry
6. Biker Sherlock
7. Pamela Zoolalian
8. Gerek Maddox
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On 4/28/2002
Guy J
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Here is a testimonial of Warren Focke, he flew out to NM to ride NM536, heres what he said:::::::
Sounds pretty darn fantastic to me. Especially the part about hanging out with Peter and Elaine. They're pretty entertaining.
Were there any hairpins that required hard braking maneuvers? Cross traffic? Did you have to pass or be passed by cars. Scott Peer and I got passed by a motorcycle on the front side of GMR last weekend. It was mortifying but we didn't have any throttle to twist and so had to accept our fate with seething humility.
By the way I'll be in town this coming Monday for the skate. I have a meeting in Los Altos in the morning and will hang in SF in the PM. I'm really looking forward to skating with you guys again.
Warren Focke wrote:
Executive summary: f#@!ing epic.
More details:
14 miles
+ 117 turns
+ 3800 ft drop
+ 1 skater
+ 25 minutes tuck time
= 1 big grin + 1 sore back
The pavement has a kinda rough surface, but is mostly in good shape as far
as potholes and such are concerned. There's a 1/4mile, 100 foot uphill in
the middle (by the ski place), so i'ts really 2 7-mile runs. Skated over
the middle bit the first time, skitched the next two.
There is surprisingly little air at 10700 feet.
I braked for most of the hairpins in the top half on all my runs.
Probably many of them could be done w/o braking with more experience on
the road. I braked once in the bottom half on my first run (Sunday), not
at all on the later two (Tuesday).
Top speed was 42.
Here's a map, it cuts off a bit at the bottom 'cause maptech has limited
scaling options:
http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=35%2E19658&lon=%2D106%2E407&type=1&scale=100000&zoom=100&icon=0&
Note the ski lifts running alongside the top half.
This is the road where the EDI race is happening June 22-23. I don't know
where on the road it will be, though. More likely in the top half, since
that is more technical and is a deadend.
Major props to Justin Franklin (local luger) for rides up the hill and
bringing the place to my attention in the first place, and Peter and
Elaine Hebard (friends of George) for a ride and much hospitality. Turns
out Elaine and I went to the same elementary school (not at the same
time).
w
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On 4/28/2002
Reed
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What Im looking for is an alluminum channel type, long enough for a 6 foot 2 guy, Me. thanks
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On 4/27/2002
Reed Lowry
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I told My friends that I would never be one, but Ive been thinking about it alot lately. Id like to buy a used streetluge, complete or not. Help? Reed.
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On 4/26/2002
Gonzalo
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En Chile tenemos las medias bajadas, el que busca siempre encuentra.
Pure downhill
Aloha Chad Barbas
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