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Topic Street Luge Info
On 6/8/2002 bob wrote in from (209.232.nnn.nnn)

the little kids in my neighborhood like to ride my luge , 2 or 3 of them at a time. to keep their hands on the board,i bent up some 7/8"tubing on a tube bender and attached it to the front of the deck. kinda looks like a nerf bar on a race car.but teaching them how to control their speed is a priority. heels down !heels down ! we have a short hill in the neighborhood that we go down and turn around and see who can coast the farthest uphill.it gives them a sense of lean steer and basic control...and some nine year old beat me.

 
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On 6/6/2002 Aldo wrote in from (212.210.nnn.nnn)

HELLO!!!! there are still Two slots available to participate at Trials 15th June.
I tell you our place: we are by the beach, girls and fun, there's the city, the entire hill is right Rimini, not a close country.
There's www.fitnessfestival.it, parties, S GAMES !
What are you waiting, the course is unbelievable! After IGSA grid, you can search best position until San Fortunato's Turn and being trusted accellerating 'till the finish line and runout area.
Two Red Bull arcs and one of RiminiSportTOCoast to pass through out of each sector at full speed!
Two Categories (Dirt Surf entries will be posted soon by Skizzo) and two NASCAR walls.

Racers bring hardware for a straight course, drag and not for traction in turns.

Plan to arrive in Rimini by Friday 14th.
There's also a technical track with two real Jumps! the day after IGSA National Championship.
Tomorrow I will go to Rimini (all is perfect!)and have last conference at Rimini City Council, I need all your names
Thank you and see you in Italy!
Aldo Grippaldi
ag@broox.it

URL: www.stream-games.com

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Summer S-Games RIMINI, 2002

 
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On 6/5/2002 Dean Bryant wrote in from (24.130.nnn.nnn)

That Soap box derby is a cool idea. did the kids actualy ride it down the hill and stop. I would worry one of those kids would get thrown foward when they try to stop for the first time. I don't know but we should have junior races at some of the Soap box events. I think if you made it safe and fun for the family you would get a lot more main stream people involved in supporting the sport. Also you can get a Streetluge Plans design at http://www.cafepress.com/streetluge,luge01 I really like the one that says Winning isn't everything it's the Only Thing. cool stuff

Dean
Gravity Racing Rules.

 
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On 6/4/2002 tomse - the unscared lugers wrote in from (80.109.nnn.nnn)

look to our streetluge and buttboard homepage:

www.streetrace.at.tt

happy luging,
tomse

 
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On 6/2/2002 BRad wrote in from (68.7.nnn.nnn)

Soap box derby
Hey i just got back from some of the practice runs at the southern california devision in Oceanside . I brought my luge and theyre must have been 30 kids who took a run on my board . watch out ,i think i created a new era . several parents asking how to get one . If these kids actually catch on to the luge train EDI might actually have to create a JR.luge class . IF you have a local soap box derby , go hang out with them , theyll idealize you .

 
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On 5/31/2002 william wrote in from (193.250.nnn.nnn)

Hi,
Have a look at www.streetluging.net
2 lugers have been added.

There's also the giveaway result
Thanks, see you

 
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On 5/30/2002 Aldo Grippaldi wrote in from (212.210.nnn.nnn)

Dear Friends,
I am glad to announce the upcoming Summer S GAMES action sports festival in Rimini.
The City of Rimini represents the capital of Italy in Summer and this was the reason we designed this Name: Italy sends the impulse, be ready to receive the stream.
Among new disciplines MBT-Speedway and Dirt Surf: we want to add popularity in particular to this one come from Australia.
I am the sport organizer for Street Luge at Red Bull Trials; for info about Dirt Surf you can contact Franco Favretto (Email: rollerjet@libero.it). Only 24 Racers can compete both in SLR and DSR this year and if you want to participate contact me before 4th June. On being your slot confirmed, plan to arrive in Rimini by Freeday 14th.
There's no Entry Fee at Stream Games, Downhill categories are DUAL and MASS for Street Luge and 4-man for Dirt Surf.
The DH Course is progressively accellerating, completely straight but two fast turns and we are preparing a entire hill: parkings at the bottom will be fully connected to all different sectors for Spectators, with many Volunteers for one of the most important sport event in Italy. TV Highlights and Footage are distributed around the world by the same Partner of the Big Air in S.F. and the Down Rio. On production, a VHS-DVD movie for I.S.E. (www.italiasurfexpo.it Film Festival).
Street Luge event gets the Status as IGSA Nationals: hope you will get the roster and compete with a dozen of best Italian Pilots and get hundreds points in the IGSA World Championship.
You have the possibility to get at Trials forthcoming Pro-hardware before being distributed!
Thank you for paying attention and each person who help in this project.
We look forward to your participation in Rimini.

Sincerely,

Aldo Grippaldi
S GAMES Producer

cc: Aldo Grippaldi
ag@broox.it

URL: www.stream-games.com

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Summer S-Games RIMINI, 2002

 
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On 5/30/2002 Gerhard wrote in from (195.3.nnn.nnn)

I just got this email from Aldo Grippaldi. He will host the Italian Championship from 15.-16.july in Rimini/ITALY. Also the ITALIEN Champs are the qualification for the S-Games on the 25.August.

Status: Italien Champs are IGSA national and the S-Games are a pure invitational.

Check out the qualification criteria for the S-Games
12 Riders from the italien Champs.
6 Wildcards Organizer S-Games.
6 Wildcards IGSA (Worldranking from the 15.july will count towards this wildcards.

All other info will be found on www.redbull.stream-games.com and www.stream-games.com or please email Aldo Grippaldi

mailto:ag@broox.it or agrippaldi@racine.ra.it

This is a good chance for all europeans which are not going to Oklahoma do qualify for the stream games. If you got any questions about this feel free to email me as well.

gerhard.lanz@hotheels.net


Street Luge event gets the Status of IGSA National Championship: hope you will get the roster and compete with a dozen of best Italian Pilots.

cc: Aldo Grippaldi
ag@broox.it

URL: www.stream-games.com

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Summer S-Games RIMINI, 2002

 
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On 5/22/2002 Steve Pearl wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

If you're Coming to Street of SF...Come to our

3rd Annual FunDay @ Dinosaur Point...PIC
July 28, 2002

Plan to enjoy our 3rd Annual FunDay July 28th, the Day after Red Bull's "Street of San Francisco".
Come out and enjoy "The Dinosaur" as these guys did!!!!


http://www.auldovertheroad.com/lugephotos/lugephotopage39/lugephotopage39.htm

Thanks to Dave Auld for his great pictures..........

Steve Pearl
Wild Fro Racing LLC
www.WildFro.com
1-866-584-3888 1-866-Luge-888 (toll free)

 
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On 5/21/2002 Dean wrote in from (24.130.nnn.nnn)

What's up People,

I have never seen a streetluge shirt before. But these ones look sweet. Other stuff there too. http://www.cafepress.com/streetluge West La was cool this weekend they switched the course so there was a fun s at the bottom and you had to brake in both turns. West La is fun because it leaves zero room for error if you make one mistake it is all over for you. Non of the Streetlugers Showed up to give Jason Johnson a run for the Win. Two spots on the posium whent unchallenged. Too bad for you all who missed the fun. The race in Ohio should be the bomb. Red bull is suposed to show and bands the works. I was told it would be a big party. Oh well enough of my rant you guys keep the wheels on the road and the leathers clean.

See you at the races.

Dean

 
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On 5/17/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

bob, i have seen pics of those luge trainers, steered with their feet i believe, did hear a couple of the olympic lugers were from palo alto area, would be fun to get them on a luge. (actually, i heard one guy started on a streetluge, and went on to the ice luge)

 
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On 5/17/2002 Gerhard wrote in from (195.3.nnn.nnn)

I just heard that the flights from the staates to europe are realy expensive.

Tobi our travel consultant is able to offer flights for nearly half the price.

please go and check out www.tobis.at and click the skateboard section.
Here you got airfares from all over the world to europe.

cheers Gerhard.

 
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On 5/16/2002 bob wrote in from (209.232.nnn.nnn)

the u.s.luge assn. held a tryouts at stanford univ. several years ago.during summer months they practice with wheels on their ice luges.[summer sleds]the one i rode was east german.cost like 1500 bucks .the under-tray was shaped with a large radius fiberglass cover.very slick.it covered up all the frame underneath.also had little hand fairings.havent tried the hand fairings but did shape up some foam for underneath my luge.really couldnt tell the difference.kinda shaped it like a dolphin or seals belly.covered up most of the kingpin bushing area.

 
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On 5/12/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

Darren, I don't think anyone is saying that the Roger brothers won solely because of their mods (at least not from this forum). They are fast cause they are good riders.
The question is (from us armchair lugers) purely from aerodynamics point of view. Given a time trial, are they getting faster times compared to their non-faired equiptment? Of course, finding out the answer is often the hard part, as accurate testing is often impossible.

On the "political" side, does all this mean a green light for all lugers to start adding fairing to the underside of the luge?

 
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On 5/11/2002 E.K. wrote in from (204.246.nnn.nnn)

I totally agree with Darren.
Recently I met Brian Lee (Utah's only "pro" luge rider I have so far met around here...) while looking for wheels at Salty Peaks Board Shop and it was great. We chat alot about the sport and how little people here even know about this sport here in Utah. It is very minimum and hopefully, like Brian said, that whenever we go out riding that we can educate and recuit more riders and interest.
Back to what Darren said... definite with the practice, not just equipment.
Hopefully soon I will be entering some of the upcoming events, buttboarding especially.
Laters and peace.

 
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On 5/10/2002 Darren Lott wrote in from (68.5.nnn.nnn)

Enclosing the wheels is good sense and not a matter of bypassing the "Fairing Rule." Wheels on luges have been enclosed since long before the Rogers made their first board. None of my boards have ever intentionally had exposed wheels.

Open wheels have a cool "Formula 1" look so guys copy what they like without thoughts to performance or safety.

Luges with smooth belly pans exist even in the "Open Wheel" variety. Rogers have done well with their previous luges, despite open wheels and poor underside airflow.

Dave has done a redesign of his luge and it is better and faster than before. The key is a shortened wheelbase for MUCH better handling, MUCH better wheels, and now "on par" airflow. Nothing is new or untried by others long before.

Dave should get credit for an excellent integration of all the good and effective things that are going on with luge. The rest of the Rogers team contributes greatly to testing. Everyone wants to credit his wins to new equipment. Dave's SKILL is the determining factor over and over again.

I know because I ride with him weekly.

Also this. On the 70+ mph hour we practice weekly, I can draft the new "aero pegless Rogers Luge" and pass at the finish ON MY BUTTBOARD.

Anyone who wants to claim foul needs to get out and PRACTICE.

Darren

 
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On 5/9/2002 stevep wrote in from (66.92.nnn.nnn)

hi there - don't know where else to post this - i just got back from seeing a screening of the new ESPN IMAX movie. Extreme X (IMAX coverage of the 7th Xgames in philly)...great Street Luge footage (at least 6 minutes of footage in a 45min movie) - that looks like a bunch of fun...the rain must of sucked though. just thought y'all would be interested. Chris Chaput's name (on the back of his leathers) was very visible thru the footage down the course. 8 stories of screen - a good time. the other events were pretty cool as well (esp the motorcycle jumping) but the street luge gave the best expression of speed.

ok, going back to the longboard/slalom side of the site

cheers!
steve

 
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On 5/7/2002 Dave wrote in from (209.209.nnn.nnn)

I guess only the designer knows if it is a fairing or not. Yes,the fender additions were "styled" in an aerodynamic fashion.... no hardcore fluid dynamics or wind tunnel testing....yet.

Adding weight helps in a straight line but hurts your push start and hurts you in the turns. Use the maximum weight that you can start and turn effectively. Add the weight near the board/rider CG or distribute it evenly over the board. The 45lb weight limit can be used to your advantage.

Dave

 
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On 5/7/2002 hc wrote in from (65.184.nnn.nnn)

ahmmm, like Duane said, I know a fairing when I see it.
Also saw a similar idea in 93? laguna seca race (Rail).
Darren Lott got a similar deal going on his pegless. Whether it will be legal on not, well that's all politics, same deal with the peg vs pegless issue.

Anyways, great looking luge, wish i can afford one.

Dave, you mention weight being a critical issue, any tips on how much weight to add, where to add it, etc?

 
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On 5/7/2002 Dave wrote in from (209.209.nnn.nnn)

Duane,

Our boards complied with all of the current EDI rules at the time of the race. (Rules are posted on ediracing.com) EDI rules have never required a boom or pegs.

The fender systems serve a number of purposes, however, their primary function is not that of a fairing. The primary function was to keep the booms and footpegs of other boards from hooking up with our new boards. A fairing is typically defined as "a member or structure whose primary funtction is to produce a smooth outline and reduce drag". The EDI fairing rule addresses fairings in front of the riders feet which these are clearly not.

As for a 10% drag reduction....not even close. The rider's body is still the dominant factor in the drag/speed equation. Rider weight and body shape play a much larger role. Rob Ruhman was the fastest qualifier at Barrett....he is also faster (terminal velocity) than John and I on our new boards when we test at our 70mph+ hill nearly every weekend.

The "fairing rules" (IGSA and EDI)are focused on fairings for the riders body not the board. I say make your board as "slick" and safe as possible.
Dave

 
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On 5/7/2002 fred wrote in from (209.232.nnn.nnn)

I run a 12x36 laydown with an 18 inch front extension. the go-kart guys call this extension a porch.Is this whats referred to as a boom? And no, you cant have my 12 inch trucks.Well,okay since you said please.p.s. my 12x36 turns in a lot quicker than my old style luge .shorter wheelbase?do we have a trend brewing here?

 
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On 5/7/2002 mikez wrote in from (196.2.nnn.nnn)

If IGSA had just had a riders vote at the DHX imagine how much trouble they could have saved themselves.

 
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On 5/7/2002 Danny Connor wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Hey Duane,
At the beginning of the day, they had a riders meeting (like always) but also had a vote to see if the Rogers Bros could use thier luges, and no one voted against it. I think democracy works better rather than just plain dis-banding an organization!Later

 
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On 5/7/2002 Duane wrote in from (68.15.nnn.nnn)

Boomless luges: definitely the way to go in my (nuetral observer) opinion. The booms are simply a spear waiting to really mess somebody up. I was maybe 20 feet away at the Gravity Games this year when a fallen rider was struck full-on in the legs with a slower rider's boom.

But, as a point of debate: how did the Rogers brothers get away with those front and rear fairings ? Boomless has nothing to do with it, those fairings could be fitted with or without the boom. For those who might say those aren't fairings: I know fairings when I see them are those are it. Very innovative.

Air flow under, and behind an object is more important than air flow over or in front. On a high speed course, you might as well hand over the checks. Probably a 10% reduction in drag, or more, compared to a regular luge.

So why do I care ? If I build a luge this winter, a certainty, I'd like to make sure its both competitive and legal. As for me I like the fairings, but the rules need to be clear on what is and is not legal.

 
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On 4/30/2002 william wrote in from (193.250.nnn.nnn)

Hi everybody,
www.streetluging.net is updated with 2 riders + a giveaway.
I've just launched a monthly giveaway, this month you can win a Rocketluge Go Fast Sports tshirt, a hat, and energy drinks.
Go to the englidh version by clicking on the english flag.

See you

 
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