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On 1/13/2003
hc
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sam, looks like you know your mountainboard stuff.
i don't mountainboard, but have tried it before.
i do like to see good videos though,
the 'new world disorder' clip was excellent but kinda short.
any recommendation of other mtb videos?
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On 1/10/2003
SamuraiSam
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In response to several questions posted
1.) to Kenny: The Dukes Off Road Carveboard sucks. It has extremely narrow trucks which are very unstable.
2.) to Dave: Outbacks are very cool boards. But they are not a good all-around board. I personally own an M-1 and it is awesome for carving grass and street ,but it is a frame board and doesn't soak up bumps. It also cant be ridden switch, and is too heavy & unequally weighted for freestyle. I would reccomend an Outback as a Second or Third board.
3.) to Gaz and Frank: A beginner should almost definetly start out with a Unibody Pnuematic board. If you are on a serious budget a Mongoose Litecamb or Unicamb, or an MBS Ambush series board is the best way to go. If you can afford $270 bucks, an MBS Sol 16, Terraboard FL117, or NPD Stomper is the way to go. You can check them all out by going to http://Samurai_Sam.tripod.com/ and scoping out the links to Mountainboardz and Mountainboard Shop.
4.) to Mirtzl: I would not reccomend using a skate or longboard deck on an all-terrain setup. Generally a longboard/skateboard deck is too stiff to absorb the bumps that are a part of offroad riding. For a non-pnuematic (XT wheelz type setup) a skate deck is fine but a longboard deck is pushing it.
5.)to Brian - Pnuematics are a HUGE step up from hard wheels. I have ridden three different non-pnuematic setups. Pnueamtics open up a whole world of riding that you really can't tap into with XTtype wheels unless your really good. Rooty areas, thick grass, etc.. The ride is much smoother & your far less likely to get stuck in a hole. Also, most non-pnuematic boards have the trucks mounted under the deck flat like a skateboard. Most pnuematic boards have the trucks mounted at an angle. This allows for better bump aborbtion and in almost all cases better turning. Pnuematic boards also have much flexier decks and since the trucks are not under your feet as happens with quite a few non-pnuematic boards, you have much better bump absorption.
There are a few advantages to a soild wheel board. They are much faster on paved and decently smooth packed dirt. They are much better for "urban" and flat use.
6) to HC: NWD kicks ass!
7) to "brain": I would not reccomend using that setup for offroad - a mountainboard works best. a short streetboard with XT wheels might work, but read above where I mention good beginner boards & look into one of those as an option.
8) to the Skateboard mom: an Earthboard is a brand of Mountainboard. Please shoot me an email at samhi69@hotmail.com and I would be glad to assist you. Earthboards are decent mountainboards but for a Freeride-oriented board you may want to check out a Channel truck or Shock Truck.
9) to Blair: Get a mountainboard!!! Seriously. But if you REALLY want to use that landyachtz, get some XT wheels (www.xtremewheelz.com).
10) to Nic: I helped a friend out with building a board. Some pnuematic wheels will work on a skate axle (3/8") but most will only work on a mountainboard axle (12mm). There are wide skate type trucks that fit hubs with mountainboard bearings too. If I was going to build my own board, I would recommend using Pnuematic wheels with a Shock Truck. www.terraboard.net sells a bunch of stuff that can get you rolling: Primo Alpha treads, light weight hubs, and Shock Trucks. If you want to complete the deal with bindings and a deck you can have a whole board. Or mix and match; it's up to you. My website (http://Samurai_Sam.tripod.com) has links to the top two online mountainboard retailers, Mountainboardz and Mountainboard Shop located on the front page. Email me if you have any questions! samhi69@hotmail.com.
11) To Nic again. Mongoose does make a hub, called the Disc Hub, that will fit onto a skate axle. They cost 15 bucks for a set of four and you provide your own bearings, any skate bearing will work. They are on sale right now and the regular price is 30 bucks. Earthboard hubs also fit a skate truck and cost 35 bucks. They are a bit lighter. Both of these hubs work with Pnuematic wheels from 8 inches up to 10 inches. If you do not have your own bearings you can order some from the same page for 17 dollars. Copy and paste http://www.mountainboardz.com/Merchant2/agent.mv?AG=None&SC=SFNT&S=M and then click Accessories, Build your own, and then Hubs.
12) the website to build-your-own is www.poorboyatb.com
If you are looking for a serious board, MountainboardZ.com is having a sale on MBS Comp 16s and SOL 16s right now. Both of them are a great board the Comp 16 will last you a little while longer.Visit http://Samurai_Sam.tripod.com and check out MountainboardZ! If you have any questions email me at samhi69@hotmail.com.
Have fun!
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On 1/4/2003 celt
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Nic - They might very well fit on normal trucks, but you would probably end up with ridiculous wheelbite. Unless you had huge risers, I'm not even sure you could get the wheels on the board, unless your trucks were actually wider than the board itself..... Whether that would even work or not would remain to be seen as well I suppose. You might check each of the manufacturer's websites to see if they sell just the wheels. I think Terraboard (www.terraboard.net) might. There's some tires and hubs at www.mountainboarder.com/mbparts.html . Also check out www.mountainboardz.com/accessories/byo.htm . There's also a guy that sells plans to make your own mountainboard somewhere out there on the web. I just checked my bookmarks to no avail. Perhaps a search here in NCDSA or in Google or something.... Good luck.
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On 1/1/2003 nic
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yeah, cheers, not so keen on the extreme solid rubber but the inflatable tyres on hubs like mbs and mongoose use, like will these fit a normal skate truck with 608zz bearings?
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On 1/1/2003 celt
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Blair/Nic have you guys checked out the xtreme wheelz website? (www.xtremewheelz.com) they have several options....
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On 12/21/2002 Nic
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Im keen on making an all terrain board. Im wondering whats the deal with the wheels(inflatable)/bearings, will they fit on normal wide skateboard trucks or are the bearings designed to fit on a bigger axle?
Does anyone know of an online retailer of mountainboard wheels?
Thanks
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On 12/17/2002
Blair
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I'm converting my Landyachtz Chief into an offroad-style board for the winter because when i board in the rain my 75a abec11 flywheels slip out from underneath me in a turn, so i want to get rubber offroad tires that will be able to go through leaves, water, dirt, mud, and occassionally grass when necessary going around the U of O campus. Dont worry about my bearings; i'm gonna get a crappy cheap pair for the winter that i'll allow to get wet and dirty. I'm also gonna get some massive risers for the wheelbite. Anyway just wondering what brands make good offroad tires and what tires you guys recommend out there. Anything helps. I'm willing to spend the $80 or so it takes. Thanks.
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On 12/14/2002 DMB
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Hey,
Thanks to this site I had a new relevation to conquer those nasty out of bounds marker ropes. My first run on my ATB and I hit one of those at high speed. Rope cut right through my sock and then leg. Rope cutter like they have on helos to cut high wires. Bombs Away
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On 12/10/2002 skateboard mom
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I'm trying to decide on a gift to myself for my 40th birthday: a Mountain Board or an Earthboard? I've only checked them out inside a shop. Any pros, cons? I really want one for cruising down (gentle) dirt and grass slopes, though maybe also down asphalt...
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On 11/25/2002 erik
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Brian, I bought some Ex 100mm wheels(solid rubber), and put them on my homemade board. I have ridden it down grassy hills at my local park, and it was pretty fun. There is less control, but it is still fun. I have never ridden them on any other surface besides grass and the street, but they are pretty expensive...about $80.00.
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On 11/18/2002
"Brain"
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I am quite new to the idea All Terrain riding, but what do you guys think about regular longboards with those big ole 100+ mm wheels on regular trucks.
I have a nice county park right around my house with a nice rolling hills. I'm trying to think good thoughts during my femur fracture recovery. I can't wait to try it.
Regards,
"Brain"
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On 11/8/2002
hc
wrote in from
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just saw New World Disorder
it's a mt bike video, but have a great mountain boarding section.
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On 10/15/2002
brian
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how do solid wheels compare with pneumatic set-ups? seems to me that the big difference is in the wheels and not the truck systems but then i'm asking because i have no experience offroad. basically, what can i expect from an offroad skateboard as compared to a mountain board or something? what sort of riding is a solid wheel rig good for? thanks
brian
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On 10/11/2002 gaz white
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i have flown power kites now for a while and would like a mountain board to go with it. anyone got any suggestions. cheap if possible
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On 9/9/2002 frank
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I am considering buying a moutainboard for carving on road and some gentle off road. I'm 5'11" and 180#. Please give me some advice about what to consider when buying a board. Any suggestions about getting brakes. How do these boards handle compared to a longboard? Thanks
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On 9/6/2002 mirtzl
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I have a Landyachtz downhill race deck with Randal 180s RII and Flywheels 83. I ride on some paved rolling bike trails which are now starting to have autumn debris(leaves and branches). I would like some advice whether I could use an all terrain wheel set up on this deck and trucks to better roll on these trails. Please advise. Thanks.
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On 8/29/2002
Daddies Board Shop
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We just tested out the earthboard and everyone in the shop liked how the board handled. Just wanted to drop a line about it. If you are looking for a reasonably priced mountain board, earthboards are a good choice. The tires give great traction and the turning is suprisingly responsive. See ya :>
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On 8/15/2002
Tony
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Here's a board I set up recently, great fun on dry mud hills and grass. In response to the mail from "Civ " I use 215mm Indy's and a couple of thick risers and it all seems pretty stable to me. i've had these wheels 3 years and this is the 4th setup I've had them on, this one feels the best.
Tony
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On 8/12/2002
bjs
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Are any of you ATBoarders in the L.A. area? I built the track for the DirtDuel 2000 championships up on Kratka Ridge. Intending to go ride it again before the summer ends.
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On 7/27/2002
Dave H.
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An ebay guy is selling the 2001 outback models (3 wheel mountain board) for about 100 bucks. These were 300 dollar boards. I have the earlier chrome model which goes through grass and bumps like they weren't even there. Great deal if you can handle the idea of a 3 wheel board. Search ebay under "mountain board"
Best, Dave H.
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On 7/20/2002
ChrisNPDrider
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Carve boards suck off-road, and so do normal ATBs with the carve board style super slick tires. The main problem is the tires! Slicks suck off-road because you need traction to turn in loose dirt, grass, etc!
Big, 100-120mm off-road skateboarding wheels work best with wide trucks. Randal 180s are good, i have a set but they are way too loose for my taste. I prefer Gullwing Pro III 10.5 inch or event he new Pro 15.0 inch truck. When you go fast and want to turn/powerslide, a wide truck keeps you stable instead of tipping over.
Mounting toe clips/straps that cover half your foot is best done with the open end in the middle of your deck. Stand as you would ride, then place one of the bindings on the outside face of your shoe so it covers the top of your foot over the ball of your foot, then pencil in the spots where you want to drill your mounting holes. Using T-nuts or a nut/bolt combo is way better than standard wood screws which can pull out of the deck and ruin you chances to mount the bindings in the same place again.
You guys should ppe www.npdlandboard.com
I ride for NPD and help with R&D, promotions, etc...these boards rip and the company is rad.
Check it out
Ride on!!
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On 7/2/2002 phinch
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A good place to buy plans for offroad boarding is www.poorboyatb.com.
the carve board isnt really designed for offroading
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On 6/30/2002
Kenny
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Howdy mountian board folks. I have been thinking about getting a board and I had a question. Do any of you have any experience with the All Road Carveboard by Duke. There seems to be a lot of them on ebay, and a local store has them really cheap. Here's an example, ebay Item # 1839876240. Any thoughts or experiences? Thanks for you input.
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On 6/8/2002 Civ
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I just got some huge off road wheels, they are rubber and have grooves in them. They are over 100mm and I want to know what trucks people are using for this kind of riding. I have some 1800 randall that I think would be good. Any tips for a safe and functional setup?
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