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Topic Riding Safety
On 12/29/2000 STEVIEB wrote in from (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Anyone thinking of riding Barefoot should check out www.lushlongbords.com , click on 'the word'and scroll down but I warn you now it aint pretty

 
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On 12/12/2000 Scars wrote in from (63.14.nnn.nnn)

What is the easiest type of speed suit to obtain.
What types of clothes are used that protect when wrecking...

 
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On 11/29/2000 brian wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

man i need too talk to someone that has info on downhill events and sponsership ,i live on the east coast and ive been carving and rippin down hills since i was a kid ,im 27 now and i wanna get involved can someone help?thanks brian, myphone # is (609)698 0944 give me a collect call! later

 
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On 11/25/2000 Anonymus wrote in from (4.48.nnn.nnn)

EEEEEh... don't fall...

 
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On 11/23/2000 WINSTON T.GRANT wrote in from (209.240.nnn.nnn)

!.Always prepare surface properly (i.e.SWEEP)before attempting ANY untried tricks or manuevers;and if racing,take a page from the formula one racers'manual:WALK THE COURSE:IT'S YOUR ASS!(I bring this up in light of the carnage that took place in LA:WOW!!(did we skip a few pages to get to the centerfold,boyz?)and in other news:EVEN CONSIDERING TOWING is a rigorously silly idea that SHOULD NOT BE ENCOURAGED!!(WE aren't the only ones who see this,and I know for a fact that there are kids out there who look up to us as the authorities on high velocity ard extreme side-loading in our sport,and frankly, any discussion of racing should be prefaced by safety announcements.
2.PADS ARE NOT AN OPTION.
3.STRETCH,YOU MONKEYS!YA WANNA LIVE FOREVER?(YES!)

 
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On 11/20/2000 roger wrote in from (198.206.nnn.nnn)

Brian, my apologies, could not resist poking fun at equipment that I have seen in the freezer isle at supermarkets. I really have not idea about X-Game gear, but do like that they are promoting safety equipment.

 
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On 11/20/2000 roger wrote in from (198.206.nnn.nnn)

These helmets are recalled because of a problem with them mysteriously flying off just moments prior to impact…

It appears that they where designed with the assumption that the straps where only a fashion accessory. Although seldom used and forgotten by many, the original purpose of the "chinstrap" was later rediscovered after extensive investigation into these incidents.

All X-Games helmets should be returned to the supermarket that it was purchased

 
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On 11/20/2000 brian jardine wrote in from (216.240.nnn.nnn)

i have a xgames skateboard helmet and it is on a recall.
and i want to now why?????

 
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On 10/4/2000 roger wrote in from (32.100.nnn.nnn)

Nick,

ROLL ONLY AT LOW SPEEDS!
At higher speeds it is important to set yourself into a slide to minimize impacts.

 
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On 10/3/2000 nick wrote in from (24.4.nnn.nnn)

I've crashed many times. Every time I've walked away and took a deep breath and continued on. All the pads in the world couldn't help you unless you know how to crash if its gonna happen. I mean, ya the pads will help with the road rash, but if you crash wrong you'll have broken bones or even a busted head. I'm 16 years old and I know to go out with a full face helmet and pads. I guess the only thing I have to say is roll when you crash.

I've fliped my luge board and rolled out with not a scratch on me. I didn't even ache!

I'm not trying to put anyone down. Just be safe and wear everything if it makes you feel better.

ALWAYS ROLL WHEN YOU CRASH!!!!!!!!!!!

the maker of good wood longboards,

nick

 
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On 9/28/2000 bug wrote in from (141.213.nnn.nnn)

When I put on my helmut, I know I'm going to have fun. That's because the closer you are to a chance of getting a concussion, the more fun you're having.

 
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On 9/25/2000 Chris S wrote in from (208.164.nnn.nnn)

Adam,

Ever notice the way Tony Hawk wears his helmet. He does the strap as a necklace thing too. Great skater, but not much of an example.

 
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On 9/24/2000 Adam wrote in from (63.192.nnn.nnn)

A lovely new trend: kids wearing helmets "sans strap". Kids are sooo kewl! I came across a group today in my neighborhood who were curb slapping and hopping a ramp in the sidewalk. From a distance it seemed they were all responsibly wearing their helmets. As I got closer the sad truth revealed itself: most had their chin straps unattached, and one had it so loose it was more like a necklace. I guess it's un-kewl to tighten the strap. It's sad, especially in this neignborhood that three years ago lost 15 year old Ryan Costello to a head injury sustained while skating, so see such ignorance. Helmets without straps are useless -- they will drop off your head before you've reached the ground in a fall. But hey, what's more important, looking kewl with your friends, or saving your skull?

 
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On 9/21/2000 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

Check out slide glove pictures at: http://www.chrischaput.com/gloves

 
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On 9/21/2000 Chris wrote in from (208.164.nnn.nnn)

kaspian,

You can use wrist guards for sliding, but it's not the best for heavy duty sliding. First, if you find a set of wrist guards with the plastic supports on the outside, these can be used but you would have to get them big enough so that you can wear leather gloves underneath them. If you don't do anything else, they'll work, but wear out real quickly. First, the straps go so you have to use atheletic tape to keep them on tight, retaping as it wears away. The plastic is next to go. The plastic on wrist guards is pretty thin and wears away quickly. Before long the get so thin that they lose their effectiveness as wrist guards and eventually.

A better option if you are planning to use wrist guards is to attach more plastic to the wrist guard. I have some Rollerblade wrist guards that have two holes in them about where the flat part is on the heel of the hand. I've attached two small pieces of plastic to the wrist guards using countersunk screws and boring a larger hole partway through the plastic, so that a locking nut will sit under the scraping surface of the plastic. This works pretty well, but I mainly use them in skateparks, or cruising (trip out the younuns with a Coleman slide on a 54" board at the beach). I wouldn't use it for downhill as part of this wrist guard plastic is scraping and I'd wear them out too quick if I tried them on a hill.

Blah uses a similar method, but he uses a block of wood and bigger pieces of plastic than I normally use. His work fine for downhill. His post on this is in the Safety Equipment archive, 7/9/00.

Chris

 
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On 9/21/2000 kaspian wrote in from (208.244.nnn.nnn)

Question re wrist protection:

Having ripped up my cheap wrist pad, I'm looking for something sturdier -- ideally, something that will let me start practicing Coleman slides.

The only likely items I've found thus far come from the CCS catalog: TSG Wrist Guards which claim to have a "high impact/controlled slide ABS palm splint," for $22.99. And Wristwrap Gloves, which are made of leather with an "injection molded high density palm splint" and open fingers, for $34.99.

I'm thinking there must be something a little better. I'm sorry to say that cost is an issue right now -- not because I do not regard safe skating as my #1 and #2 priorities, but because I'm broke after my triennial visit to the Emergency Room. (This year, a broken foot from bailing into, ironically, too SOFT a lawn: my foot dug into the ground, and got twisted beneath my hurtling body.)

Thanks for any suggestions!

 
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On 9/13/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Found the Supaflex gloves. Interesting design. Not an innovative shape however. I first saw those kind of 'split-mitt' gloves in a Performance Bike catalog several years ago. They were meant for keeping your hands warm in the winter (as mittens are inherently warmer than gloves) while still being able to use your brakes. Two fingers for your handlebars, two for the brakes. I even make myself a pair our of some polar fleece scraps that I had floating around. I wonder why they chose the split-mitt design, as I can't see it giving you any more abilities than a regular mitt, other than potentially carrying your board by one of the trucks.... I also wonder how much they're going to cost. They look expensive....

waxfoot

Herbn - look for that little paper-clip icon in your mail program to attach files (if using MS Outlook Express), or try looking under the 'Insert' heading for file attachment.

 
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On 9/13/2000 Herbn wrote in from (208.192.nnn.nnn)

I guess the crux of the matter it that surfers consider a bottom turn a trick that has something to do with the wave,to me its just a backside turn ,at or near the bottom of the wave,used to get back to the wave and do another move. If you were going down the wave straight at the shore,alternating turns,with no intention of ever going back at the wave,(really old school)they would be heelside and toeside turns, the heelsides are frontside and viseversa.The digital photo program has a photo share thing you have to sign up for,i'll have to look into it since i can't seem to attach them to my E- mails,computer illiterate am i.

 
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On 9/13/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

Herbn I would like to see a pic of your gloves if you had one - perhaps a post on Hugh's site? Those gloves in the pic I mentioned intrigued me because they had more or less full hand coverage, but looked like they had the ability to grab as well. I really need to make some sliders and am trying to figure out how I would make some like those in that picture. Not sure whether to use regular work gloves (for being inexpensive) or something like the gloves that Chris C. lists on his site (home page). Prob. go with the cheap for prototypes I guess.

I can't seem to find the supaflex gloves on their site - am I blind??

I'm afraid you lost me on all the skate trick terminology on our front/backside thing (I was never any good at tricks so never learned names), but I follow you and agree, if I'm understanding the tricks right. The berts/cess slides are frontside because they are just like a frontside top turn/off the lip - yes, butt down like I was talking about, but the 'trough' of the wave/ramp/whatever is below and behind you. When I was talking about butt down I meant with the lip of the wave/pool/ramp behind and *above* your head. I do disagree on your 'regular foot any move that turns to the left is frontside.' Regular foot, bottom turn on a left-breaking wave. Backside. Anyway.... I call truce. My fault for bringing up the topic again. Friends in skate?

love that glove
waxfoot

 
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On 9/12/2000 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Hey Roger,

I want to see a set of those kevlar/teflon gloves when your done with them. If you can keep the price below a c note, you'll be doing well!! HR

 
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On 9/12/2000 rogerj wrote in from (198.206.nnn.nnn)

Sliding gloves, rail grabs, teflon, and integrated wrist guards…

I am using a set of UHMW sliders on loan from Chris Chaput (thanks Chris, they will be back to you soon). Initially he cut them closely outlining a full hand, but I have been using them turned around with more coverage below the wrist and none for the fingertips. During slides I tuck in finger tips in by making a fist. When not sliding I can grab things. With a little bit of reshaping and some rubber trim on the edge (actual edge, not sliding surface) I think I will be able to grab the rail better.

One thing I do not like about UHMW is that it is noisy (I often ride at 2am in residential areas). I'm thinking of trying teflon for smoother slides with less noise. Teflon is much more flexible and might be able to contour it into an integrated wrist guard.

Hmmm... Kevlar contoured forms, thin high density closed cell padding, wrapped fabric reinforced with kevlar, and replaceable teflon contacts - all over regular leather gloves (you just can beat the $6-$9 gloves found in hardware stores!)

rogerj

 
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On 9/11/2000 todcar wrote in from (198.39.nnn.nnn)

I've made sliding gloves with plastic palms and rubber finger tips. They allow me to carry my board, drink from a bottle etc. The rubber tips can also be dragged to slow myself, while I can slide on the palms. The palms are actually 2 pieces so there is flexability there too. Sometimes I slide only on the wrist/thumb section, other times only on the upper section, sometimes on both. A word of caution, my gloves are somewhat poorly made and the fingertips do sometimes catch on the edge of my deck, or on the ground as I go into a slide. The supaflex gloves look to be ideal. I can't wait till they are available.

 
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On 9/11/2000 drew wrote in from (209.244.nnn.nnn)

Gloves:

i have had good luck with sliding gloves where the plastic is carefully cut to shape so it just covers the palm (rivet it, lace it, glue it, whatever; don't bolt it as steel bolts get hot in slides), and then thick leather (i got mine from the broken girth strap of a saddle) cut to shape and glued to the finger tips after a couple slides and some investigation showed me where the non plastic parts of the glove would need reinforcement.

 
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On 9/11/2000 Herbn wrote in from (216.107.nnn.nnn)

You could leave the fingers without plastic , that would make grabs realistic,though not perfect,but slidability would be sustantially compromised, you'd have to be constantly conscious of what part of your hand you put down,my gloves sliding surface is split into two parts, finger and palm,i can grab my board for a stretch ,to get my tuck lower,but its not like i could do backside airs.
If you do a cess slide type move with your butt against the wave/ramp and bert or layback ,butt also against the wave/ramp are they both backside?no berts are frontside cessslides are backside,surf,skate,snow. If you're regular foot, leftfoot forward, any move or aspect of a move, that spins ,slides,or rolls to the left is frontside and viseversa.Stance has nothing to do with the definition of the trick,a switch backside air is just a backside air,if its alley ooped it doesn't become a frontside move,just a backside move that drifts frontside,and if it's landed in a disaster its a frontside disaster or lipslide, but only if it comes in backwards:)

 
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On 9/11/2000 waxfoot wrote in from (63.10.nnn.nnn)

By the way, that wouldn't happen to be any relation to the Santa Cruz surfboard shaper Ward Coffee would it??

wax

 
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