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Giving Credit Where It's Due
On 10/19/2002 Wesley Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

The more I stew on this, the more there is to say. It's 7:45 here on the East Coast and I'm watching the weather very closely. While I'm at it, there's another aspect to racing I want to recognize: uncredited HOSPITALITY.

How do we put a price on people like Bill and Alyssa Tway, Brian and Nannette Parsons or Tasos and Jill Tageniedes who provide way stations for weary travellers going up and down I-95? Then there's all the stuff that's off the books like Gilmour giving me a free set of Avalons for just getting to Boston. Or what about the breakfasts, lunches and dinners bought for fellow racers in diners and cafes (and Chinese restaraurants) all over creation? People like Peggy Turner, Howard and Heidi Gordon, Rick and Carin Howell, the Goulds and so many others who open their homes (and ice chests:-) to strangers just because they ride a slalom board? Or Deb Gordon, Chicken Deck, Buddy Carr, Rick Howell, Beau Brown, Chris Chaput, John Krisik, Jeff Bozi, the "Turner Consortium," the O'Sheis and countless others giving away product just to build this sport into something we can do forever? That doesn't even begin to cover what guys like Andy Bittner, BP, TK, JG, Tway, Tasos, 66, the guys at WLAC, Camp Holl , Stink Hill, Oak Street Beach or countless other racing and practice spots spent out of their own pocket to make racing a little more fun and organized.

All that has to go into the ledger on the PLUS SIDE of what made my summer of racing possible. Of course, when doing nothing, ride nowhere and pretending to be authoritative, NONE of this is obvious.

And none of this even begins to cover the actual thrill and fun of racing with your friends . . . or learning to start off a four-foot high gated ramp. How is that appraised?

So the support is certainly two-way. Unfortunately, though, are the brain-leaking fools who attempt to syphon that support to make themselves seem relevant. Their irrelevance is such a sad spectacle mixed in with such a wonderful obsession like skateboard slalom racing.

 
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On 10/19/2002 C-Money wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Dang, did it just get colder in here?

Can't control the weather, but there is a neat little half-pipe at the abandoned school-posted some pictures of me, Cliff Coleman, and Claude Regnier playing on it Sunday night over on the slalom forum. I'd be up for sessioning on it on Sunday if it rains-you're welcome to join me unless, of course, you're just some poser who doesn't ride vert, too. . .heh heh heh

. . .or we could just party and help Dave figure out what to do with all the cool stuff the vendors have provided. You missed ONE HELL OF A PARTY with the Red Bull contigent (they have a big crowd here of base jumpers and others) last night (so did I, but I could have been there, cause I'm here, I just had to get some sleep to make it across the bridge in the morning). Like we used to say, and it fits worrying about the weather: don't sweat the petty things, but always take time to pet the sweaty things. . .

carl kincaid
khrt

 
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A quick addendum
On 10/19/2002 Wesley Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

P.S. I used Chris and Kenny as quick examples of guys who have spared no expense in being a part of this sport in the past year. That in no way discounts the money and time other people have dedicated to racing. Whether it be FCR, West Coast pros, international Open riders, East Coast regulars or whoever, you guys know who you are and how much you've put into this.

What I did want to illustrate, though, is there is a big difference between being a real racing freak and a sorry poser. It's time the freaks of the world unite and slam the door on some poor-mouthing loser.

Wait, that's not quite right. In order to "lose," you first have to race. What do you call someone who does nothing?

 
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All of 'em
On 10/19/2002 Wesley Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Let's see,

The Gathering: 1000 miles round trip
Boston: 2240 miles round trip
DC Outlaw race: 1000 miles round trip
'da Farm: 1800 miles round trip
Georgia State Championship: 650 miles round trip (didn't race that day, but Rick certainly understood my motivation for not sticking around til the alternatives developed!)
Morro Bay/Avila Beach: 6000 miles round trip

Total Mileage in 2002: @ 12,800
Total costs in 2002 (including registration fees) : @ $2,250.00
Total Expenses to date on new equipment: @$350.00
Total Outside support: $400.00 (A friend provided my Morro plane ticket.)

Total Out Of Pocket Expenses in the past six months: $2,200.00 (Not nearly as much what guys like Chaput and Mollica have put it into it, but certainly nothing to scoff at, especially when considering NONE has went to new decks.)

Of course, none of this reflects my time, effort and undocumented expenses in helping put on the Folly Beach race. It wasn't a whole lot, but an accountant would surely demand an itemized list for tax purposes. I guess I could reasonably add another $100 for that weekend and the weeks leading up to it. Tasos bought me a lot of lunches, but I went through quite a few tanks of gas going back and forth to the beach.)

Ok, Brady. Now, what have YOU done to support this sport in 2002? Oh, before you say anything, I really don't think posing for a weekend in Folly Beach really counts as much. The guy balancing a cooler full of beer on his board for 15 seconds Saturday night did more riding that weekend than you did in two days.

Normally, when someone who slaloms criticizes me for whatever reason, I let it slide. I don't "argue" on these forums. I say what I have to say and move on. When a f**king poser, though, starts dictaing to me what I have to do in his estimation to support this sport, I have to say something.

What's really good right now is the scrawny SOB lives 500 miles away in South Florida. Yes, Brady, it would be in your best interest to say nothing more.

 
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SF/Bay Area riding
On 10/18/2002 scrub wrote in from (12.235.nnn.nnn)

Hey Clayton or whoever else rides the bay area. I'm a member of Team Freebord and we are always looking for new people to ride with. HC in sanjose is the only longboarder I've ridden with, we've been ripping hills together at 40+. He says the Berkeley runs are awesome. I've done Hiller and Fish Ranch but I want to check out the others. We got some pretty nice ones in los gatos, sj, milpitas, fremont, hayward, sf, san mateo/san carlos. shoot me an email

 
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On 10/18/2002 Chris Chaput wrote in from (63.168.nnn.nnn)

What I do know about rain is that if I worried about it too much, I wouldn't be a world longboard champion in 3 disciplines and that flying from sunny Southern California costs more and you can't just turn around and drive home.

It's a risk. You take it or you don't. I'll see you guys Saturday night. Rain or shine.

 
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Montain State Slalom Skate
On 10/18/2002 Wesley Tucker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Well, I'm not superstitious and I'm not going to pretend the weather will be sunny and bright on Sunday. Furthermore, I know that when it's cloudy, damp and sub-50 degrees the odds of the pavement drying well is next to nil. So even if it doesn't rain during the race, there's a good chance it might be too damp to run cones no matter what. (Would everyone agree we've learned our lesson about, "yeah, I think it'll be ok. Let's try it and see!" Ask ur13 or my rib cage about the validity of that logic!)

So here's the important question: does Dave have an INDOOR rain check facility where we can do SOMETHING on Sunday if things go sour? We all know about Folly and how we lucked out and Rick did pretty well improvising a race in Athens. Any chance we can get any advance word BEFORE Sunday about something in Fayetteville where we can race? Maybe under a football stadium grandstand, or a closed K-mart or Grocery store with a covered sidewalk out front? Rick found a auction shed to run his race. Anything like that around W. Va?

I hate to put Dave on the spot and ask for something up front, but 500 miles is a long way to drive without a back up. I love you guys, but another weekend watching Dave Riordan watch the pavement dry just isn't in it for me.

Let us know, Dave. I'd love to come but would like to know what I'm getting into. I got $50 burning a hole in my pocket. Will it be money well spent?

P.S. Anyone who laments that talking about rain will bring rain is an idiot. Who wants to dispute THAT notion and call it abuse?

 
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SF / Berkeley
On 10/18/2002 Clayton wrote in from (130.212.nnn.nnn)

It's not raining yet! so lets go ride some hills tomorrow (Sat) or maybe Sunday afternoon, hopefully both. Tunnel Road? Presidio? I guess we could set some cones too if any one desires. Let me know.

Later,
Clayton

 
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Mississippi GRS J-Town Slalom Showdown
On 10/18/2002 Ricky wrote in from (12.39.nnn.nnn)

Our little race is blowing up!

Concourse Drive in Pearl, MS is the location, It is a slight slope with excellent surface. We will set a hybrid type course of spacing in the 7 - 10 ft. range to accomodate new racers as well as challenge the fast guys. Race is a duel format as close as possible to the FCR series.

Transistioned start ramps, Tway timing system.

$10 entry fee, money split amoung top four. More prizes donated by the fine people at Swell Sk8, Turner Downhill, Tracker Trucks, Bahne Skateboards, Longskate.com, Comet Skateboards, Vision Street Wear.

Go to:
http://home.jam.rr.com/byrdz/Hills.htm
for a map to the hill.

Here are some Hotels in Pearl:
Best Western Inn, 257 N Pearson Rd, Pearl, MS 39208, (601-936-2060)

Econo Lodge, 232 S Pearson Rd, Pearl, MS 39208, (601-932-4226)

Motel 6, 216 N Pearson Rd, Pearl, MS 39208, (601-936-9988)

Ramada Inn, 341 Airport Rd S, Pearl, MS 39208, (601-933-1122) I checked this one on mapquest and it's within three blocks of the course.

Find more ifo and discussions at: www.SkateMS.com

 
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WV
On 10/18/2002 cabbage wrote in from (216.83.nnn.nnn)

leaving by 2:30-3 should be there 6 1/2 hours later, keep my spot in the campground, see you all tonight.

sk8 till u die,

cabbage

 
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WV Weather NOW
On 10/18/2002 C-Money wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Here's a shot of the sky over Dave G's house RIGHT NOW. Dave took this shot about 2 minutes ago.


 
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On 10/18/2002 C-Money wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

And, it started at about 30 degrees this morning, now it's 50 degrees or better, perfectly sunny and beautiful.

 
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On 10/18/2002 Dave G wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Ah,, Brady, It's scheduled to be 65 degrees and a chance of showers!!
Dave G

 
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Mountain slalom...
On 10/17/2002 Brady wrote in from (66.21.nnn.nnn)

I was thinking it was nice for a change today to NOT have another 90%+ day. It only went up to 88%.

Then I did a weather search on Fayetteville and saw temps from the 30s to the 50s. Shiver me timbers....who`s bringer the `lectric wheel warmers??

Oh, and light chance of rain too...

 
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Thurs Walker
On 10/17/2002 Ohm wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

The weather has taken a turn for the worst. Light rain has been falling since 4pm. Doesn't look good for racing.

How about a few pints!

 
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Euro Thursday
On 10/17/2002 Ohminator wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

THings are drying up nicely. The only thing wet will be the Euros eyes when the cry in defeat.

 
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Euro Walker NOT
On 10/16/2002 Vlad wrote in from (209.244.nnn.nnn)

Ok, mandeley, abort, ABORT! It's wet AND cold. AND there are no IFs this time!
Vlad.

 
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Walker Euro Massacre
On 10/16/2002 Ohminator wrote in from (207.172.nnn.nnn)

Thursday night right Vlad. Be there don't be scared.

If it is wet lets drink!

 
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Walker all-American Euro-invitional.
On 10/16/2002 WesE wrote in from (208.59.nnn.nnn)

I'm gonna call people at 8:30 to inquire about pavement dryness. Ohm, please check it by then if you can.

 
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Walker Euro Nite Skate
On 10/16/2002 Vlad wrote in from (169.135.nnn.nnn)


This is NOT definite. But possible. IF: it’s not raining IF: the surface is dry IF: Paul and Martin make it on time AND are willing to skate IF: Jani gets back from his business meeting early AND is willing to skate.
Approximate BEGIN time: 9:30-10 PM
Come see how good these Euros are on our all-American 5.5 and 6 ft 48-cone courses.
Stay tuned, there will be an update as the night descents upon us (stop by around 9PM, I will get some info by then).
Tomorrow night looks good, but Jani leaves for Paris in the afternoon.
Vlad.

 
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Going to the Mountains in October
On 10/16/2002 Al Roker wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Quick Weather Update:

Today's revised weather shows the rain now STARTING on Sunday instead of Friday. With a little luck it'll keep moving on and be a later day as the week progresses.

Oh, that rain also includes SNOW. Y'all stay tuned.

 
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Fayetteville
On 10/15/2002 Timbobwei wrote in from (138.88.nnn.nnn)

Rain in Folly, Then Rain at Da Farm, Now Rain for Fayetteville? http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USWV0246?whatprefs= What is it with F....

 
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NYC Broadway Bomb
On 10/15/2002 Boomer wrote in from (165.250.nnn.nnn)

Allrigh folks, I took upon myself to make a dry run of the "course" for Saturday's Brodway Bomb race in New York. Here's the scouting report:
Most of the pavement along the way is pretty good for New York street standards. There are however the standard issue hazards like subway grates, man hole covers, and those big metal plates they put over holes in the road. The toughest part of the ride will be from roughly 62nd street till just below times square as there is a TON of traffic both of a pedestrian and automotive nature. We will surely have to stop for a few seconds here and there to allow cross traffic to pas and to avoid hitting people but it should be fine. Again, bring the big brass ones to this show and a helmet would help too.
I'm super stoked about this event, hope to see as many of you east coast boys and girls there at noon.
Late

 
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east coast slalom rains supreme
On 10/15/2002 patio wrote in from (207.16.nnn.nnn)

yeah, rains, not reigns...
dang, what's with these slalom related weather patterns? it's getting ridiculous!
p

 
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Skate-off! Open House
On 10/14/2002 hugh r wrote in from (24.48.nnn.nnn)

Sat Oct 26th... just received a note that Tierney will also have one of their riders coming along... so add them to Carveboard and Freebord... should be a great time of skating... bring your longboards too! HR

 
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