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old parks
On 2/4/2008 buddy rawls wrote in from United States  (128.158.nnn.nnn)

the parks I am looking for are going to be pre mar 76 (carlsbad opening).

Tomoka was early, but It came after SkatBoard City for sure. I loved seeing TOmoka photos in the old flip waverider/skaterider magazines.

Concrete Wave was later too. late 76 or early 77

the Frederick Bowl appears to be in 75. Escape Country was in 75.

Wasn't the original Ocean Bowl made in Asphalt, or was that another park in the dc/coast area.

 
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The C Wave
On 2/3/2008 John L wrote in from United States  (68.59.nnn.nnn)

Oldest park? First one that comes to mind is the Concrete Wave in Anaheim. That park was a blast. Really enjoyed skating with Greg weaver everyday.

 
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Skatepark firsts
On 2/1/2008 GBJ wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

While I'm not certain which was the very first skatepark, I can tell you that the first public or municipally funded skatepark in the world was The Ocean Bowl, in Ocean City MD. Built in the summer of '76, The Ocean Bowl was built by the City of Ocean City, Maryland, and was the result of an organizing effort by skater-mom "Haystacks" Marlowe (mother of Josh Marlowe). Thirty-one years later, after going through many different designs and configurations, The Ocean Bowl is still in business.

 
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Early Skateparks
On 1/31/2008 Paul Graf wrote in from United States  (24.216.nnn.nnn)

How about Tomoka Moon Forest in Florida?

I was just reading about the Tomoka Moon Forest skatepark in one of my old issues of Wild World of Skatebaording. There was also a article about the Carrasco's backyard skatepark in the same issue. Living in the midwest that article was the biggest inspiration for me.

Paul

 
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early skateparks
On 1/31/2008 buddy rawls wrote in from United States  (128.158.nnn.nnn)

Rene, thanks for the info on the Escape Country.

I would really like to see some years matched up to these parks. Maybe I am the only one in the dark, but I have long since though Carlsbad to be the first park. I have known about Frederick, ever since I got my first skateboarding book in 76/77. However, it was not until recently that I started to put together more of history that I started finding all sorts of neat things.

the neatest thing, is that I actually think some of the Frederick park may be in tact. Satellit images definitely indicate something is there.

It is possible that the park was so mellow, that it was easily eclipsed even as early as 76 and basically forgotten. If someone in the SC area could verify, and if portions are still there, I would like to see some quick photos.

Carlsbad and Skatboard City (FL) are usually classified as the first parks in the USA, both completed and operated in early/mid 76. the only problem is, these other parks were opened earlier. Granted the level of terrain was far different, but the Frederick and Escape Country may have that being rethought.

 
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SkaTePaRKS........
On 1/30/2008 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.134.nnn.nnn)


I always thought Escape Country was the first
sk8park around here -in 1975.
we're talking -a big bowl, snake runs,
downhill speed course, freestyle area, etc.

The thing was, though.....
........this place was ASPHALT ! .....OUCH !







BELOW 1975: DAVID CARRASCO BEING FILMED FOR
CHANNEL 7 EYEWITNESS NEWS @ ESCAPE COUNTRY.
( RENE IN BACKGROUND )




BELOW: L-R
1975 - RICHY ( WITH WILD HAIR )
AND BROTHER RENE (LONG HAIR ) BEING FILMED
FOR CH. 7 EYEWITNESS NEWS @ ESCAPE COUNTRY SKATEPARK
FOR SKATEBOARDING STORY.
( Richy might have had the BIGGEST fro in Skateboarding ! )



Photobucket





Take care,

...............-Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco.






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first skatepark
On 1/30/2008 herbn wrote in from United States  (67.83.nnn.nnn)

i think i remember the first skatepark being in florida, that one where all the early bruce walker pics came from,sensation basin? melbourne fla?,maybe myrtle beach. japan had something real early too.

 
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early Skateparks
On 1/28/2008 buddy rawls wrote in from United States  (128.158.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys, I have a question. I have always thought that Carlsbad was the first park. Where did the Frederick bowl fit in? was it after Carlsbad or before. Looking at boards being ridden at frederick (old photos), it appears that it may pre-date Carlsbad.

Any of you guys have a good info on this.

 
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Handstands
On 1/9/2008 Geo wrote in from United States  (64.207.nnn.nnn)

Rene,
I saw your picture of a 2-board Handstand and it reminded me of something Kenny and I used to try: 3-board, 2 man Handstands!! It was difficult because I was Goofy and he was Regular so we would start on either side of the boards.
Photobucket
Did you ever try this one?

 
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Handstand/Dagoo
On 1/9/2008 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.129.nnn.nnn)


I have a feeling handstandman and Dagoo are the same guy.


 
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handstand man
On 1/8/2008 handstandman!!! wrote in from United States  (71.113.nnn.nnn)

thanks for the props. yeah, I really do not understand the haters. I give street skaters their due props, and they just hate and gossip in return. I have decided its because most of them are using drugs, and its not an understatement--that is most of the ones I have had the misfortune to come into contact with.

you are correct it did not end well. nearly needed to amputate my leg because of mrsa after 1st knee surgery. I will release the crash only after I can afford a documentary type discussion which shows the speed and the law of physics with a 200 pound man going 30 mph down a 15 degree to 20 degree and more slope. (that hill drops like a mutherf#@!err, like a wicked hangmans noose. most skaters will not even try it on their feet. take care!!!

 
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Torsten-Hallman.........
On 1/3/2008 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.137.nnn.nnn)

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Buddy Rawls -

Here's some more Torsten-Hallman safety gear -Ha !



"Cannonball" doing a 'Skyhook' jump during Pepsi Demo -
.....maybe 1979.

PHOTO: By my BRO. - Glenn Miyoda.



Happy NEW YEAR !


.....-Rene Carrasco.








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Keep on keepin on with your own style
On 12/31/2007 Rich Sayers wrote in from United States  (76.103.nnn.nnn)

---------------
Claude Regnier wrote:
It is pretty typical to read some of the jabs at him by kids that just have not learnt respect for people honed skills and such. Some people learn to appreciate in time and other just never will.
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Some related things I have experienced: Several times after kids have made positive comments about my handstands, Berts or 360's -- an older teenager or guy in his twenties then 'educates' the kids that "those tricks are so old ( or lame or insert derogatory comment), they are not cool." Sometimes the kids buy into the hater's opinion, other times they disagree.

Also, there are older skaters influenced by the Del Mar contest scenes in the Dogtown and Z Boys video who are VERY judgemental about handstands. Especially some dudes on the BDS forum. Ironic that they waste so much energy hating freestyle, then complain about skaters who do not respect them because they cannot ollie or kick flip! Some of the older skaters are stoked to see long handstands (especially with hands pumping for distance) in person, but will not admit it in front of the opinionated dudes.

Videos of handstands are Berts are prominently featured on my 45 at 45 Tour site. I REFUSE TO BEND TO THE WILL OF THE HATERS!



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Now featuring old school style skate videos! The site is 70% updated: The 45 at 45 Tour
http://45at45.com

 
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Hey Aaron
On 12/29/2007 Martin wrote in from (78.86.nnn.nnn)

Hows it going? Do you still skate? There are a bunch of Brit skaters who still remember those Benjyboard days hanging out on the UK forum. One of the guys just had a slalom board made that is reminiscent of the old Sablosky bowlriding deck!
Once I skated with Jules Gayton and Marc Sinclair in London, said goodbye, went on holiday to Antwerp, Belgium, skated with my friends there only to be taken as a surprise to see a visiting British Skate Team demo....The Benjyboard Team!
We mostly skate slalom and bowls, one crew based around Hyde Park, one in Hove.
Feel free to join us...
Martin.

 
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benjy boards
On 12/28/2007 aaron wrote in from United Kingdom  (90.192.nnn.nnn)

found this picture of myself skating for the benjy board team at olympia london, i think it was around 1975 not quite sure was only 5 at the time.
cheers
aaron

 
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Handstand Man! OOPS!
On 12/20/2007 Cknuck/claude Regnier wrote in from Canada  (216.58.nnn.nnn)

OOPS! Sorry 'bout dat!

 
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Hamdstand Man!
On 12/20/2007 Cknuck/claude Regnier wrote in from Canada  (216.58.nnn.nnn)

I've seen some of his runs on youtube. He has some pretty long and fast stuff going on. That run down that big hill didn't seem to end very well for him.

Wobbles at speed on your hands are a lot scarier then when your on your feet. Needless to say they are much harder to controland even getting off safely is a tough one. His fall sounds pretty harsh.

It is pretty typical to read some of the jabs at him by kids that just have not learnt respect for people honed skills and such. Some people learn to appreciate in time and other just never will.

You don't have to like it to apreciate it.

 
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handstand
On 12/19/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

some guy claiming to have handstand down signal hill !!

http://skateandannoy.com/2007/10/05/handstand-man/

 
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Pepsi Ramps .....Rad Ramps.....& Mariachi's !!!
On 12/14/2007 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.134.nnn.nnn)

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Herb N -

NO WAY, ...

I never was commissioned to do a Pepsi Demo
in New Jersey.
If I was asked to skate there - my guys and I
would have SHOWN UP - and put on a GREAT SHOW !



Dang it, ...I don't have any photo's riding the Pepsi Ramp -

-but I do have some of me riding other brands of ramps.


Below: 1977 -
Here I am riding the famous 'TRACKER RAMP'.....
I believe it was in Tustin, Ca. -
during a Powerflex Skateboard Team demo.

-You know how it is....you show up at your
friends team demo's - and they let you ride with them.
-Everybody Jammin'. -MAN, GREAT TIMES !
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Photo: By Glenn Miyoda.


Below: 1978 -
If you look at the middle of this photo -
you can see me with a microphone in my hand
emceeing this Pepsi Demo @ Buena Park Mall,
right near Knott's Berry Farm.
The fella on the ramp is none other than my COUSIN TIM !
This was THE 'RAD RAMP' skateboard ramp.
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Below:
My cousin Tim Carrasco today -
a fantastic successful Mariachi !
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- - - PROUD OF YOU TIM !

Tim's photo of him riding that RAD RAMP -
is featured in Michael Brooke's book
"THE CONCRETE WAVE" - THE HISTORY OF SKATEBOARDING -
-and also in Rhyn Noll's Skateboarding History Book -
"SKATEBOARDING PAST-PRESENT-FUTURE".



Below: 1976/1977 ?
Here I am riding the wood 'RAMP RIDER' RAMP @ JC Penny's
for the Santana Skateboard Team, in Manhattan Beach, Ca.




In this photo - while I'm riding this ramp -
Chuy Madrigal and another fella help hold the ramp steady !





Take care,

......-Rene Carrasco.

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pepsi ramp in new jersey
On 12/14/2007 herbn wrote in from United States  (71.127.nnn.nnn)

ever do any demo's in new jersey? i rode a plexiglass pepsi ramp sans flatbottom,some time in 78 or so,i was on moped at the time,wait it may have been earlier it could have been on bicycle, i remember hearing a rumour about the location of the ramp it was at a company picnic for subsidiary of pepsi maybe something like their legal department,or a company that did their ads,something like that. Anyway i found the ramp,told no go on riding it,the guys skating it will be here at 11,came back at 11, no skaters, went back home hung out for lunch, grabbed board and all safty gear back to ramp,still no skaters,hung out for a couple hours,no skaters. I think the picnic was clearing out ,and i got the go ahead and take a spin. Plexy took a bit of getting used to but i got near the top and the guys there were a bit surprized that a local jersey kid could even do this skateboard thing. I wonder who were the national names or east coast pepsi locals that were supposed to skate that day and blew it off. It's one of my many obscure skate spot memorys,like finding old school ramps when they were no longer ridable,bizarre tight backyard pools(one indoor)early dh no slider gloves ancient equipment, impending wobbles with no (easy) bailout,oh well todays seventies flashback

 
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Rene's UPsiDe~ DoWn 2- Board Thingy....
On 12/13/2007 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.134.nnn.nnn)

-------------------------------

Rich Sayers -

If you look at my hands in the photo -
my left hand is just off to the front of that back truck,
and my right hand is a little off to the right of that front truck.

I was trying to get my hands as close together as I possibly could
to perform this trick.
Could you imagine trying to do this trick - if your hands were
in the middle of each board - HoW WiDE ThaT WouLD Be ? .....Ouch.
-It would be an upside down spread-eagle. Yikes.

Ya know, back then, I had a jillion companies always giving me all
kinds of equipment to try out - because I was performing skate
demos 7 days a week for about 5 years & competing too !
( -Pepsi, and other skate teams... )

So.....I've studied this photo, -regarding THAT WHEEL -
and figured I was probably using
a different bushing set-up - maybe kind of snug -
where by tilting the front of the board -for ADJUSTING BALANCE -
it could bring up the back wheel momentarily.


When I used mouse boards -
I could actually pump the boards - kinda like slalom -
and get those things haulin'....to keep moving.

What ever way you lean - those boards were SO SMALL -
you could make them turn instantly - into where you're going.


Below: 1976 -
Here I am on 'Mouse' Boards - Pepsi demo -
-I think this one was in Norwalk, Ca.



I can still gyrate the back board - mouse board,
to make both boards keep moving -when the first board
is a regular skateboard too.


Below - 1999 -
Here I am using 1 regular skateboard,
and 1 mouse board.

Photo: By Maria C.



A lot of people came up to me after my skate demos and
told me that they thought 'elbow stands'
looked harder to do.


Below: 1976 or 1977 -
Here I am doing a 2-board stacked elbow stand -
-I think this Pepsi demo was in San Bernardino, Ca.
I'm surprised I didn't have a Pepsi tattoo -
I've got the Pepsi logo on my helmet, on my shirt,
on my elbow pads, and on my Tracker Trucks too ! -Ha !

This photo got a FULL PAGE in Michael Brookes'
1999 skateboard history book - "The Concrete Wave "



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Man, we used all kinds of boards and tricks in those
skateboard demo's - to keep it always interesting
for the crowds !



Below: 1977 -
Rene Carrasco and Brett Bowden - Pepsi Demo -Laguna Beach, Ca.





Take care,

..........-Rene Carrasco.









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Rene's 2-Board Handstand / Mrs. Carrasco
On 12/12/2007 Rich Sayers wrote in from United States  (76.103.nnn.nnn)

Rene -- with your hand position on the rear deck, and the right rear wheel being off the ground, it looks like it could go into a "wheelie" and shoot the board out! Did that happen to you much?

Bailing onto my hands or scraping my fist after popping a wheelie from handstand to fakies has messed up my knuckles!

Wow- Mrs. Carrasco had 15 children? Great that she went back to college! Some people might need to visit a psychologist after raising that many kids. :-))

 
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Torsten-Hallman.....Dear Mom Delia.....Pepsi.....and more Handstands.....
On 12/12/2007 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (71.134.nnn.nnn)

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Buddy Rawls -

Here's another pic with those 'Torsten Hallman' safety gear.


Below: 1978 - Here I am doing another 2-Board Handstand
during a Pepsi Team demo @ Golden West College, in H.B.
( -That Beautiful Lady in the black dress cheering me on
in this photo - is my very own Mother - Mom Delia -
who was GOING TO SCHOOL THERE - FULL TIME -
STRAIGHT 'A' STUDENT - & PRESIDENT OF THE HONOR SOCIETY !
After having 15 children - she went back to college and
got a degree in Psychology ! )





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Take care,

...............-Rene Carrasco.

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high jump
On 12/11/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn)

claude, I saw a pic in a mag of a guy hippie jumping this yoga dude bending backward.

http://www.yogajournal.com/poses/473

 
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handstand plus high jump
On 12/11/2007 Cknuck/claude Regnier wrote in from Canada  (216.58.nnn.nnn)

HC, yes they do :) That would be pretty fun to try. I don't know though. I'd have to trust someones ability and timing to do it while rolling. I would also have to decide how I would want them to take me out if they missed, EH! Might be worth looking into next season.

We used to do a few things like that but I was usually parallel with a board under my hands and one under my feet.

The guys would be lined up coming towards me and jumping over me as I was rolling towards them.

 
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