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On 1/10/2004 hc
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wade, i have a 'bombing' page on my site that gives some info on equipment and technique. Going fast with the right equipment is actually not all that difficult. The important part is knowing what to do when things go wrong.
Learn how to slide first, you can bail out when you feel you are going too fast.
As for personal records, I bombed a really steep hill in SJ, I knew it was the fastest I ever done, never got it paced, however I am kinda content in not knowing.
Of course, those crazies on the speedboarding page are always bragging about going 60+ , insane!
As for dumb newbie mistake, the first time I got randal II (after reading all the good reviews on Ncdsa and thinking they are wobble-proof), I went to my local hill and bombed from the top. Well, guess what, wobble wobble. Did the Texas two step and superman to pavement. Thank god, I only walked about with road rash. (BTW, this was before meeting Cliff)
Anyways,
Wear your full face, leathers and learn to slide.
hc
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose
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On 1/9/2004
Wade
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I was wondering if anyone has a personal record in speed on a longboard i have been about twenty five and i hurt my self. If you have a record let me know and what kind of board you did it on
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On 1/7/2004 hc
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one of my goal for 2004 is to get my ollies down,
my main prob is i freak out when I have to ollie over something.
I need to video myself and see what i am doing wrong.
maybe this will help you guys too.
if all else fails, I gonna have get those 'suspenders' ;-)
check pic at sk8kings.com (is that richey?)
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On 1/7/2004 Mc
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I have exactly the same problem!.You (and me) are obviously adding some kind of turning force to your jump.Either trough upper body rotation or by kicking the tail away from you as you pop the tail.It's driving me nuts...
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On 1/4/2004
Brandon
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I have been boarding for about a year now and I just can't seem to get the full grasp of the ollie. I can ollie up curbs with little to no problem but when I try to ollie over things, my board winds up turning frontside on me. It even happens when I ollie while just standing still. I'm not sure if it will help with someone helping me to solve my problem but I ride normal stance. Someone please email me at angelluva126@aol.com and help me with my ollies. I would be very greatful.
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On 1/2/2004 apw
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Do a search from the main menu of this site and enter sliding, there will be a ton of info there. You will need to make your self some sliding gloves. Check out the web site below for the gloves and techniques.
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
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On 1/2/2004
Eric
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how do you stop. It freak me out when im goin fast i have to ride into a grass area. The works very good if you have big wheels like mine but i still want some hints on how to slide and stop! thanks
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On 11/18/2003
hc
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hank, i got a lot of info on my sliding page. check it out.
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html
also, get the gravity flow video, lots of sliding from cliff, jim kluggish and sergio.
ade, i like my green 82a krypto classics. predictable sliding and last longer than the softer ones. Darrell Freeman (use to?) slide on those. (see the Monkey)
BTW, my friend john kim went to japan recently and rode with that guy that had the japanese sliding web page. He got interested in sliding from watching mpegs off the gravity webpage, made his own gloves, and learned to slide on his own. cool! (his site is linked on my page)
hc
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On 11/17/2003
Sketchmaster
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Hank: I recommend practicing on some nice, smooth concrete; Like a parking garage. Be prepared to fall a lot. Sliding is what's going to happen when you turn too tight for the friction coefficient of your wheels. I recommend starting with wheels in the 95A+ hardness with a narrow to medium width. Practice carving and learn where your wheels are going to break free. Once you know when and how the wheels will break free it's just a matter of initiating a short carve and overturning until the slide starts. You are going to high-side and fly forward. You are going to fall on your ass. You are going to be in the middle of a perfect slide and hook back up. The smooth concrete is a lot more forgiving on the flesh than asphalt. Some wheels never slide consistently. I hope this helps.
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On 11/14/2003 Hank
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how does one stop? I am new and haven't gotten the hang of sliding to a stop.
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On 11/14/2003 Ade
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Kryptonic classic 76mm. I've been using these wheels for some time on my longboard in the UK. I like the extra size in order to ride lips and superb downhill stability for carving & speed. The only problem I have is that they cone up real fast on slides. I've tended to go for the 76a durometer, but am thinking of trying out the 82a. Anyone tried these, Whats the verdict??? Is there a noteable difference??? Alternatively maybe someone can recommend me another wheel. Cheers Ade
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On 11/8/2003 dreads
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Shortboard ollie stance is good. Go fast. Crouch deeply before the jump, kick hard. Try not to get hit by the nose. Lift it up. Level it, land it. Pure theory. I got the same board and never managed to ollie it higher than few inches, still a flatland move. I found the kicktail useful for doing wheelies, long kickturns, and slides.
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On 11/6/2003 mister nutts
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hey
i recently got my hands on a 44inch S9 hawaiian deck for next to nothing. i have been riding longboards without kicks for about 2 years and i now am trying to learn to ollie this bastard. due to its weight and length its alot harder to get pop than a shortboard.
anyone got any tips on riding a board like this except just keep practising?
cheers
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On 11/5/2003 TomE
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My favourite "longboard" wheels for sliding are the 68mm bones bombers, they're 85a so it's debateable whether they're hard or not, I've found they lasted a long time. My favourite wheel I've found for solely sliding so far are these sims 63, hard and with a super radiused lip on them.
Going back to standup slides, I would of thought hard wheels would be a much better idea than softer ones, why make life hard for your self by using softer wheels
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On 11/5/2003
Sketchmaster
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Seamone: I totally agree with you except that the experience that I have had with the variety of wheels with which I have been able to afford I have not found a soft wheel that worked well for me: 6'2", 200 pounds, smooth concrete or smooth asphalt. Others may have different results. Mass has a big effect, as does speed. What has been your experience regarding diameter and width and slides?
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On 11/5/2003
Seamone
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Sketchmaster - I agree with you how sliding with hard wheels is better BUT for begginers or for who ever, I belive that you should learn and be able to slide on soft wheels (85a and lower) to learn how to control your board. Sliding is awesome, but not when people are out of control.
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On 11/3/2003
Sketchmaster
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TomE: Lots of guys slide with soft wheels but it never worked for me. I would want to start about 95A or higher. The trucks are your own preference. I don't like to monkey with adjusting the tension on the bushings for different disciplines mostly because it takes a little while for the bushings to settle in but also because I like the tension to be the same all times and you always know what to expect from your turning input. I used to ride tight trucks with quick turning geometry and now I've gone to extremely loose with a mellower geometry. More importantly you are going to need to find a urethane formula that works well in your wheels. Right now I'm riding Madrid Rock Blox 65mm in 99A. They don't slide for squat for me. My last wheels were Bullet 66's in 97A and they slid much better. Vision Blurs slid well for me as did the old 55mm Rat Bones both in 97A.
I'm assuming we're talking sub 25MPH. If you're running past that then seek advice from someone else because I don't slide over 25MPH.
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On 11/2/2003 TomE
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Standup slides.......Help
I've been meaning to learn these for a while now and have finally stopped putting it off, except now I need help.
What set ups do you recommend for learning on, I'm currently using a more or less street deck size board, with wheels in the low 90a reigon (they're sims 63 to be specific). I find I'm getting highsided a lot once a slide, any tips?
Also is it helpful to run the trucks loose or tight?
Thanks a lot
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On 10/31/2003
Sketchmaster
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I would not ordinarily want to advise anyone on laybacks but noone else did so here goes: I started doing them everywhere; Ditches, mini-ramps, etc. Frontside wheelslides on street are a good primer, too. These are way easier in a pool because the board doesn't get away as much. I had the same problems as you. I wound up with two solutions and two totally different styles. One: carve into it and try to get your hand down ASAP. Let your grind play out and ride the board back in without ever getting back on top until the board gets down below your center of gravity. Two: Get up into a 5-O lean back, plant your hand and do your thing. Somewhere along the line grab your nose so you can pull yourself back up on top. I never got this second style fluid without stalling on my tail before re-entry. Keep in mind that this is all coming from someone that doesn't get their back foot back onto a sweeper until the flat. Master either of these and you can challenge my title of Sketchmaster. I HAVE NO STYLE.
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On 10/30/2003
gavin
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the previous posts are totally correct, the trick is in getting the correct stance to begin with. HC's site has the best shots i've seen. i tried for ages to slide and the problem was, i eventually was told, that i had a bad approach technique. i was going into the turn as i dropped down thus most of the time the board did'nt slide and i bounced off my ass.
the only suggestion i would make beyond that already given is to learn the correct stance in a straight line, on a slight slope at speeds you are happy with (i learned at walking pace) get comfortable with it and then attempt shallow gentle turn with your lead hand sliding along the ground. again do this until you are comfortable, and don't try to slide at this stage, then build up speed and tighten the turn. eventually the wheels will break free and you're off.
p.s. don't forget to keep the trailing hand in the air to stop the tail end rotating round on you.
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On 10/21/2003 ernie
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I was at hc's site and saw a pic of Cliff Coleman sliding and realized that my stance was wrong. I had been squatting and was not able to get my center low enough. by rotating my knees forward I was able to get low enough, and put enough lean on the board, to start sliding. Being on a hill instead of the flats helped a little too. Now I have to learn how to get up on the board again. Thanks for the advice Ethan. I am in San Diego. The asphalt right by my house was just redone and is kind of wierd for sliding(still a little sticky), but great for carving. I have been practicing on a hill by a retirement community by work. I don't know why i keep getting dirty looks...
-e
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On 10/21/2003
Ethan O'Brien
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I was having a similar problem... I can do frontside slides reliably but was having tons of trouble with backside slides.
I found hc's site (sk8sanjose) helpfull, and watching frame-by-framing videos of sliding also helpfull. Buy Flow from gravity is you haven't already.
The most helpfull thing was some just buying some butt-pads and some fairly hard wheels (I'm using 92a Flashbacks), and then practicing. You will fall on your ass while learning. Just accept it.
With really hard wheels and a well paved practice slope...you should be able to practice pendulums and other 'high speed' slides at a much lower and safer speeds.
I need to get colemans down pat cause I ride goofy and frontside slides take me into the oncoming traffic lane if I mess them up... screwing up a coleman will just put me on my ass or send my flying into the shoulder. Road shoulder nice and comfy compared to head on collisions.
If you are located near SanFran I know some great smooth sloped parking lots to practice slides on. Anyhoo good luck. Do a search for better answers than this.
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On 10/20/2003
ernie
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I have been trying to learn to Coleman slide but am having trouble sliding heelside. I have no trouble leaning foreward and cranking the board over, but i am having trouble leaning the board towards my back when crouched down. It's possible that fear of falling on my ass may be a part of it but I am leaning over pretty hard and the board does not tilt like when I am using my toes to push it. Any tips? Thanks.
-e
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On 10/20/2003
Matt
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I am completely new to the world of skating, and I'm really stoked to get out and ride a longboard. Are there any good books for beginners that will teach you the basics? Can anyone give me a few tips? I'm not even really sure how to stand on the board, so anything would help. E-mail me....
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On 10/15/2003
hc
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rich, i got some stuff on my site,
www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose (under slalom)
but visual learning is the best way to learn,
kenny's slalom dvd is excellent,
post your location, and hopefully you can hook up with fellow riders...
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