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On 2/5/2003
gt
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“Red Clay” etc., etc.,
First before your bi@tch,
***I am from The South***
But seriously why don't you "heritage" guys realize that as much as you thing that the battle flag represents your heritage, it represents pure human cruelty to another segment of the population, as said jim's comments. if there was another group of people (i.e., northerners, geneticists, enemies of britney spears., etc, etc.) that was as adamant about insulting, degrading, dehumanizing you, and reminding you of your subjugated past, there would be no end to your ranting and conspiracy mongering. And please don’t pull this “liberal media conspiracy” in your defense cr@p, (because the South has been the home of the most prominent media outlet of the last 10+years), AND MOSTLY because it’s an insult to those of us who are Conservative and disagree with you.
I am totally down with the whole southern pride/military pride (personally, my family is from a tradition of both and I have lost many family members to the latter, so PLEASE don't start on the whole sacrifice or “you don't understand” b.s.)
I'm totally down the heritage issue in general, but seriously, you guys gotta find something different, something new. The point that is never addressed by the heritage camp is the point mentioned earlier in this thread, that the battle flag was never a symbol of southern heritage until the KKK/Jim Crow part of the late 19th/ early 20th century. So if you seriously feel the need to defend the actions of the lynch mobs and cross burners….go ahead, you just make it that much easier for intelligent people to stay away from you.
Why can’t you try to find something new… like the Texans have with their flag or something.
Seriously can’t you find something even half as clever as “Don’t Mess with Texas”. Or is it possible that that’s not possible
PS Kevin, etc, if you believe the whole the war between the states was ignited due to southern “farmers getting screwed on tariff laws in congress” I know a super kick @ss bridge in Brooklyn you can buy from me
Like YOU tell everyone else to, GET OVER IT
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On 2/5/2003 Brady
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Funny, my FAMILY is made up of Blacks, Cubans, Jamaicans, Haitians, Chinese, Caucasions, Italians, Irish,,,etc...and I`m a proud American to admit it.
All this PC is getting outa hand, let`s make all those little soccer kids whiners, uh, I mean, winners...
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On 2/5/2003
Brady
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I have no issues with tyhe confederate flag but then again I`m a white boy.
And I know quite a few good ole boys that fly it and thier racial ideologies don`t need to be questioned.
Personally I feel it`s use is just bad taste. (sorry rick)
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On 2/5/2003
Wesley Tucker
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What's even more of an ironic twist is I don't have "black" friends or "white" friends.
I just have friends.
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On 2/5/2003 Anthony
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In an ironic twist, some black friends of mine believe people should be able to fly the Confederate flag. They say they would rather know up front who their enemies are and not have the state force people to hide their feelings.
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On 2/5/2003 Jim
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Thanks Cliff I appreciate the compliment the only thing that I'm worried about is that Arab is on my side as well...I think I feel the world ending as I write this!
My last thoughts on this...I never attacked the South, the people of the South or any individual as racist in any of my posts, nor do I limit the flying of the battle flag to those in the South many a car, person, truck, home in my, very northern, neck of the woods is festooned with the very same flag. I am very aware that racism exists in all segments of our society be they geographic, religious or class based, I am simply expressing my opinion and the facts that I base my opinion on.
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On 2/5/2003
Ga. Tom
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You are right Wes. The south is NOT the center for hatred, racial or otherwise, in the US. And after reading all the reactions to Rick's original post, I thank you and applaud you for making that point.
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On 2/5/2003
Cliff Coleman
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Jim,
Your post a little earlier today regarding the Battle flag was quite eloquent. To me it says it all! The flag also offends me. Like you, I am not calling for the banning of it. It's just that the history behind it and the current relation between the flag and the racial hate of some, is very distasteful.
Cliff Coleman
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On 2/5/2003
Stubbs
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Ha! Good interjection of levity!!!!!!!!!!!
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On 2/5/2003 snoball
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Nuke godless communist gay baby seals for Christ!!
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On 2/5/2003
Wesley Tucker
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66,
As a guy who's as much a southern boy as you, take this from the heart: give it up.
Those who understand do not need to be convinced. Those who refuse to understand will always fan the flames of a fire that went out long ago.
Here in the American South we have accepted our history, our heritage and our relationship with all our fellow citizens. Yes, there are bigoted morons who still spout racial epithets and cloak it in some religious nonsensical diatribe. Trust me, though, this is not exclusive to the 13 Confederate states. The only difference is that whenever there are racial issues in the south, every major media outlet in the world descends on us like vultures to a carcass and exacerbate small wounds into festering open sores.
I would submit this to all those who point at the South and call us backwards, hateful and out of touch: is your neighborhood free of crime, gangs, drugs, corruption, hate and ignorance? Do you live in a perfect utopia? If you do, then maybe you have time to look at us and pass judgement.
If you don't, (and I suspect there are more who don't than do?), then I suggest you spend more time cleaning your own house and less time looking at ours. This, of course, also illustrates one of the differences between the South and so many other places: we are CONSTANTLY working hard to improve where we live and how we live. It's in all the papers. You can't miss the incessant effort to make the American South a better place for all who live here: job training, improving workforce literacy, job and industry recruitment, infrastructure development and growth, urban renewal and community outreach, volunteerism, civic mindedness and deep-rooted family structure make the South a better place to live than it was 50 years ago. And it will be a vastly different and much better place to live 50 years from now.
What are you doing that is worth a headline?
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On 2/5/2003 66
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Arab,
HAHAHHAHAHHAA
you mean all the nice things people say about you aren't true?
i was trying to give you the perfect definition of po-dunk nowheresville, guess i succeeded
have a nice day,
66
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On 2/5/2003
Arab
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Rick-You can cut and paste and try and justify the merits of hatred all you want. Your true colors are finally coming out.
Thanx
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On 2/5/2003
66
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crunchy knee, do you live in california? i didn't think so.
as for the rest of you....
A Ban on Hate, or Heritage?
Ga. School Divided Over Confederate-Themed Shirts
By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 30, 2002; Page A01
CANTON, Ga. -- At the beginning of the school year, Dixie Outfitters T-shirts were all the rage at Cherokee High School. Girls seemed partial to one featuring the Confederate battle flag in the shape of a rose. Boys often wore styles that discreetly but unmistakably displayed Dixie Outfitters' rebel emblem logo.
But now the most popular Dixie Outfitters shirt at the school doesn't feature a flag at all. It says: "Jesus and the Confederate Battle Flag: Banned From Our Schools But Forever in Our Hearts." It became an instant favorite after school officials prohibited shirts featuring the battle flag in response to complaints from two African American families who found them intimidating and offensive.
The ban is stirring old passions about Confederate symbols and their place in Southern history in this increasingly suburban high school, 40 miles northwest of Atlanta. Similar disputes over the flag are being played out more frequently in school systems -- and courtrooms -- across the South and elsewhere, as a new generation's fashion choices raise questions about where historical pride ends and racial insult begins.
Schools in states from Michigan to Alabama have banned the popular Dixie Outfitters shirts just as they might gang colors or miniskirts, saying they are disruptive to the school environment. The rebel flag's modern association with white supremacists makes it a flashpoint for racial confrontation, school officials say.
"This isn't an attempt to refute Southern heritage," said Mike McGowan, a Cherokee County schools spokesman. "This is an issue of a disruption of the learning environment in one of our schools."
Walter C. Butler Jr., president of the Georgia State Conference of the NAACP, said it is unreasonable to ask African Americans not to react to someone wearing the rebel flag. "To ask black people to respect a flag that was flown by people who wanted to totally subjugate and dehumanize you -- that is totally unthinkable," he said.
But the prohibitions against flag-themed clothing have prompted angry students, parents, Confederate-heritage groups and even the American Civil Liberties Union to respond with protests and lawsuits that argue that students' First Amendment rights are being trampled in the name of political correctness.
"This is our heritage. Nobody should be upset with these shirts," said Ree Simpson, a senior soccer player at Cherokee who says she owns eight Confederate-themed shirts. "During Hispanic Heritage Month, we had to go through having a kid on the intercom every day talking about their history. Do you think they allow that during Confederate History Month?"
Simpson said no one complains when African American students wear clothes made by FUBU, a black-owned company whose acronym means "For Us By Us." Worse, she says, school officials have nothing to say when black students make the biting crack that the acronym also means "farmers used to beat us." Similarly, she says, people assume that members of the school's growing Latino population mean no harm when they wear T-shirts bearing the Mexican flag.
Simpson believes the rebel flag should be viewed the same way. The days when the banner was a symbol of racial hatred and oppression are long gone, she contends. Far from being an expression of hate, she says, her affection for the flag simply reflects Southern pride. "I'm a country girl. I can't help it. I love the South," she said. "If people want to call me a redneck, let them."
It is a sentiment that is apparently widely shared at Cherokee, and beyond. The day after Cherokee Principal Bill Sebring announced the T-shirt ban on the school's intercom this fall, more than 100 students were either sent home or told to change clothes when they defiantly wore the shirts to school. In the weeks that followed, angry parents and Confederate heritage groups organized flag-waving protests outside the school and at several school board meetings.
"All hell broke loose," said Tom Roach, an attorney for the Cherokee County school system. When principals banned the shirts at other county high schools in the past, he said, "there was no public outcry. No complaints. No problems."
But the Confederate flag was a particularly hot topic in Georgia this year. Gov. Roy Barnes (D) was upset in his reelection bid last month in part because he successfully pushed for redesign of the Georgia state flag, which was formerly dominated by the Confederate battle emblem. On the new state banner, the emblem is reduced to a small icon. During the campaign, Barnes's opponent, Sonny Perdue, called for a referendum on the new flag, a position that analysts say helped make him the state's first elected Republican governor since Reconstruction.
Elsewhere in the South, civil rights groups have mobilized to remove the banner in recent years. Activists had it removed from atop the South Carolina statehouse and from other public places, saying it is an insult to African Americans and others who view it as a symbol of bigotry and state- sanctioned injustice. But that campaign has stirred a resentful backlash from groups that view it as an attack on their heritage.
"We're not in a battle just for that flag, we're in a battle to determine whether our Southern heritage and culture survives," said Dan Coleman, public relations director for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, one of the groups that joined the protests at Cherokee High School.
The battle over Confederate-themed clothing has made its way to the courts, which generally have sided with school dress codes that prevent items that officials deem disruptive. In a 1969 decision, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District that school officials could not prohibit students from wearing black armbands to protest the Vietnam War, but only because the court found that the armbands were not disturbing the school atmosphere.
By contrast, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit earlier this year revived a lawsuit by two Kentucky students suspended for wearing shirts featuring the Confederate flag. The court said the reasons for the suspension were vague and remanded the case to a lower court, where it was dismissed after the school district settled with the students.
Also, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit earlier this fall sided with a Washington, N.J., student who challenged his school's ban on a T-shirt displaying the word "redneck." The student was suspended from Warren Hills Regional High School for wearing the shirt, which school officials said violated their ban on clothing that portrays racial stereotypes. The school's vice principal said he took "redneck" to mean a violent, bigoted person.
But the court overturned the ban, saying the shirt was not proven to be disruptive. School officials, noting the school has a history of racial tensions, have promised to appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court.
"Since last year, we have gotten well over 200 complaints about the banning of Confederate symbols in schools," said Kirk Lyons, lead counsel for the Southern Legal Resource Center, a North Carolina-based public-interest law firm that works to protect Confederate heritage and is in discussions with some families at Cherokee High School. He said the center is litigating six lawsuits and that dozens of others challenging Confederate clothing bans have been filed across the country.
As the controversy grows, Confederate-themed clothing has become more popular than ever. The owner of Georgia-based Dixie Outfitters says the firm sold 1 million T-shirts last year through the company's Web site and department stores across the South. Most of the shirts depict Southern scenes and symbols, often with the Confederate emblem.
"This is not your typical, in-your-face redneck type of shirt," said Dewey Barber, the firm's owner. "They are espousing the Southern way of life. We're proud of our heritage down here."
Barber said he is "troubled" that his shirts are frequently banned by school officials who view them as offensive. "You can have an Iraqi flag in school. You can have the Russian flag. You can have every flag but the Confederate flag. It is puzzling and disturbing," he said.
In an angry letter to Cherokee Principal Sebring posted on its Web site, Dixie Outfitters called the two families who complained about the shirts -- but asked not to be identified publicly -- "race baiters."
"Are you going to ban the American flag, if one or two people out of 1,800 find it offensive, because it had more to do with the slave trade than any other flag, including the battle flag?" the letter asks.
It is an argument made by many who do not understand why some people find the Confederate battle flag deeply offensive. "The Confederate flag itself is not racist," said Rick Simpson, Ree's father. "It was the American flag that brought slaves to this country."
David Ray, a Cherokee County contractor, said his son, Eric, has been punished with in-school suspensions a couple of times this year for defying a Confederate T-shirt ban at Etowah High, another Cherokee County school. He said he couldn't understand why the shirts are causing such a fuss.
"Slavery ended almost 150 years ago," Ray said. "You might have some parents who still hold the slavery issue or black versus white deep in their hearts. But for the most part, I think, people are over that."
Jim, i respect your opinion, can we agree to disagree?
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On 2/5/2003
crunchy knee
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66, you know as well as I that Ayan Coultre will spout any opinion that is right of Hitlre or otherwise controversial in order to increase her book sales and highten her visibilty amongst her fellow travelers. There are two major demographics in this country right now that pundits such as she market to -- right wingers and middle-of-the-road wingers. If one can take the issue of something as benign as a piece of cloth and inflame passions and readership, then that path will be taken. When she blankets the way all liberals "love to cluck their tongues at the military" she is using a suspect device to inflame the passions of the very "Rednecks" she claims to represent, and secretly has disdain for herself.
All that said, I see nothing wrong with historic battle flags, or any flags for that matter...it's when people make a flag sacred or a piece of evil...transfering human emotions to cloth, that's where the slippery slopes is.
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On 2/5/2003 How can one person be so bitter and twisted??
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Attention a stick removal team is required to attend arabs a*s and pull out a big one! While there there get them to pull your head out too. Glad to see you racing in international events and promoting the sport and encouraging new riders. Skateboarding needs flaky people like you, so outsiders can point at you and tar the rest of us with the same brush, thanks a bunch for single handedly pushing us into the dark ages again. calm down and give it a rest or get lost, stop behaving like a brat and act your age.
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On 2/5/2003 Jim
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Never was good at html...here a the links if you realy need to look.
http://www.christianconcepts.net/Ks-22.jpg”
http://www.christianconcepts.net/Ks-24.jpg”
http://www.christianconcepts.net/Ks-26.jpg”
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On 2/5/2003
Jim
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I never said that the Southern military tradition wasn’t important to this country and I am well aware of it. I know that the military draws heavily from Southern states to fill its ranks. I also know that it is not simply pride and tradition that drives it. Many areas of the South remain poor and for many people the military represents a way out both geographically and financially, and for many African Americans the military represents an escape from the legacy of Jim Crow and segregation as well. My father served in the navy and fought in Vietnam I spent a good portion of my childhood as a military brat many of my close friends are military so I know these issues first hand. I didn’t serve in the military. Instead I chose to serve this country and the world as an educator.
What I am getting at is that the history you have outlined is largely irrelevant in regards to the argument over the battle flag, and no I am not saying that military service and sacrifice is irrelevant. What needs to be asked is why people choose the confederate battle flag as their symbol of pride? Why would people who choose to serve this country express their pride by displaying a symbol of a military that fought to destroy the very nation they serve? Why do they choose a symbol that DOES stand for racism and segregation in the 20th and 21st centuries? Why does everyone who claims the flag as a source of pride ignore the FACT that it emerged as a symbol of the old south and “heritage” only when people adopted it in a stance against integration? How can pride in the old south and gentile tradition not be connected to the fact that those very traditions that people speak of are rooted in a slave holding aristocracy? The Germans have a long military tradition and have often been devastatingly effective fighters but they do not choose to use symbols of a racist past to express pride in their military heritage.
I don’t believe in censorship, it solves nothing, but I do believe in facing facts and being educated as to the choices we make. I am not attacking your motivations nor am I attacking you, I am simply trying to point out that the battle flag is hurtful in the eyes of many people and that it is linked to a racist past and present. Run your organization, fly your flag, but understand what doing so represents to many people, including myself.
PS her are a few images “completely preposterous” 20th century organizations supporting racism with the battle flag. Brought you by such luminaries of tolerance as the KKK and the Aryan Nation.
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Politics/tred lightly!!!
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On 2/5/2003 Dave G
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racial Hatred, can be only skin deep!!! I've lost 37 layers of skin.You boyz are over your heads get w/ real pro!!
Dave G
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On 2/5/2003
66
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A FEW WEEKS AGO, John McCain said the Confederate battle flag is "a symbol of racism and slavery." After briefly backtracking and saying it was also, somehow, a symbol of "heritage," he immediately retreated from that position, clarifying that if he had ever said it was a symbol of heritage he had misspoken. Slavery and racism it was.
A lot of New Yorkers may not know better, but John McCain really should.
The whole country's military history is shot through with Southerners. Phil Caputo, liberal in good standing and author of the anti-Vietnam book "Rumor of War," was one of the first Marines in Vietnam, as a second lieutenant in 1965. He talks about how his best soldiers were Southerners: They could walk for hours and hit anything -- as he puts it -- just like their Confederate grandfathers.
The men that form the core of Stephen Ambrose's book "Citizen Soldier," a true account of fighting on the German front in World War II, are heavily Southern. The first Marine awarded the Medal of Honor in World War II, Hank Elrod, was from Georgia. Dwight Eisenhower was born in Texas. A vast number of military bases in this country are named after Confederate officers.
Former Secretary of the Navy James Webb describes Southern soldiers in his military novels whispering "and for the South" under their breath when saying their oaths to their country (as if Southerners needed to be reminded not to commit treason). They die at war, not for Old Glory, Webb writes, "but for this vestige of lost hope called the South."
Are you beginning to see the pattern?
It is pride in the South -- having nothing to do with race -- and its honorable military history that the Confederate battle flag represents. It is a "battle flag," after all, and represents defiance not unlike the "Don't Tread on Me" flag.
This is a shared cultural heritage among both black and white Southerners: It is not just the Sons of the Confederacy. (And there are, incidentally, black members of Sons of the Confederacy.) Five black Marines won the Medal of Honor for their service in Vietnam, all posthumously: They literally dove on exploding enemy grenades to protect their comrades. Three of the five were from the South. The disproportionate number of blacks in the military is a reflection of the disproportionate number of Southerners in the military. Southerners are truly our warrior class.
The battle flag represents a way of life, and a noble way of life, an ethic and honor that belong to both blacks and whites of the South. Not surprisingly, given the South's military pride, Colin Powell has remarked that he received his strongest support to run for president from "white Southerners." On that basis he concluded that there is no impediment to a black man being elected president.
Obviously boys from all over the country fought in this country's wars, and fought admirably, but it is simply a fact that Southerners are overrepresented in the heroic annals of this country. It is the proud military heritage of the patriotic South that the Confederate battle flag represents.
Liberals love to cluck their tongues at such admiration for the military -- which they consider a redneck trait, almost as bad as slavery itself. The military ethic of the South does place a premium on fighting, fraternity- like rituals, respect for authority, chivalry and virulent patriotism. But whether that ethic is your cup of tea or not, it was disproportionately Southerners -- some wearing Confederate battle flags under their uniforms -- who formed the backbone of the military that threw back Adolf Hitler.
Pride in being good fighters is not an endorsement of slavery.
It is completely preposterous to think that at the end of the 20th century, the Confederate battle flag represents support for slavery. Anyone who has ever met a Texan has an inkling of what Southern pride is about. The battle flag represents values -- virtues -- that exist independently of the institution of slavery. It is shameful for politicians like John McCain to call the Confederate battle flag a symbol of slavery as part of a campaign strategy, in the process defaming a symbol of America's gallant warrior class, both black and white.
Ann Coulter http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter021500.asp
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On 2/5/2003 66
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hendrix
neil young? i hope he'll remember, a southern man don't need him around, anyhow
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Red Clay
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On 2/5/2003
Jim
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I am working on my PhD in American Culture studies. I have an undergraduate degree in American history. I teach American history at the university where I am working on my degree. I feel strongly enough about these issues to comment. Every time slavery and its ugly legacies of racism, oppression and intolerance are brought up in class I have to struggle with people who are ignorant of the horrors of slavery and the legacy it cast over this country and world.
Facts: The battle flag was not a symbol of the South or Southern heritage until people began to fly it to show their stance AGAINST integration. The German government banned all forms of NAZI symbols after WWII. To me the flying of the confederate and claiming it's being symbolic of Southern heritage and support of the soldiers regardless of the what they fought for is the equivalent of flying a swastika and claiming it is German heritage simply removed from the horrors of the holocaust.
Fact: Germany and Japan are now some of our staunchest allies. They were both wrong and they have both apologized to the world and paid reparations for what they did. Does this excuse or dismiss their actions? No, but it goes a long way towards making a case for them to be part of the world community again. PS I happen to have a BMW motorcycle, but I don't recall it sporting any NAZI imagery. If you won't buy Japanese because of the war make sure that you avoid Ford Motors, IBM and Coors Brewing as they all supported the Nazis as well and I might add they did it voluntarily and for profit.
I'm sure when Red Clay came up with there logo these things were not to the forefront of their thinking, at least I hope not, and that is exactly the problem. As long as racist ideology and symbolism can be passed off as just good fun, or encouraged simply because it pisses people off and remains something to chuckle about the slave legacy of this country will persist with a nod and a wink from the American public.
These are my opinion, flame me or delete this post if you want, but it had to be said. I apologize for the long post but I am including a bit of text from Lincoln's second inaugural address that does a better job of summing up the Civil War and slavery than I ever could.
"Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."
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On 2/5/2003
Stubbs
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Letting your "freak flag fly"? Was that not a Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young lyric?
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On 2/5/2003
66
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Provisions of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated
Relative to Georgia, U.S., and Confederate Flags
Sec. 50-3-5. Preservation of Confederate flags.
The flags of the Georgia troops who served in the army of the Confederate States, and which have been returned to the state by the United States government, shall be preserved for all time in the capitol as priceless mementos of the cause they represented and of the heroism and patriotism of the men who bore them.
Sec. 50-3-9. Abuse of federal, state, or Confederate flag unlawful.
It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to mutilate, deface, defile, or abuse contemptuously the flag of the United States, the flag, coat of arms, or emblem of the State of Georgia, or the flag or emblem of the Confederate States of America by any act whatever.
i fly my freak flag higher than most (i miss hendrix),
66
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confederate battle emblem
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On 2/5/2003
66
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wow, y'all are wound up tight!
anyone who knows anything about flags, knows that it is taboo to deface them.......just as i did in my offerings
a black and white confederate battle emblem? don't you see the irony?
the flag of the united states of america was the one being flown by the slave ships, would you prefer if i deface that one?
anyways, controversy sells records - i appreciate it
love,kisses, peace and equality from po-dunk, nowheresville,
66
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