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On 2/12/2003 george g.
wrote in from
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Coming over from the Trucks Forum....
War because technology in conflict while great all seems to break down. the helicopters won't fly due to the severe weather. you still got to get 20k to another site. a decision is made so you hump an 80 lbs ruc to wherever the hell somebody decided you need to be. that GPS worked great til there was a problem with the batteries. you haven't been resupplied with water in 24 hours, do you know how much water weight you have to carry on you to move an 80 lb ruc 20K and stay hydrated? the local water supply is probably contaminated. there are ten of you and you have to work together. you are worried about anti-personal devices meaning mines and booby traps. but you still have to be at your assigned location in time. the map is wrong (happens all the time due to avalaches and floods in third world nations. one on the guys you are with injured himself climbing over something and now you split his load to help out. you haven't showered in two weeks, your last hot meal was 10 days ago. you will love the guy you share a hole with like a brother and not know what kind of car he has. you haven't got mail in a month. your uniform is falling apart, it is the same piece of clothing you have worn for weeks. yes he volunteered i respect the hell out of him and i can't write anymore cause i am crying.
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On 2/7/2003 sad
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Adam you rule but it shoulda styed a longboard sight youre generosity may be a fault.Dont they know what happens if you lose interest?
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On 2/7/2003 h0dad
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Yo Antti S. Brax,
got it in a second-hand computer shop on the other side of the globe to you...it was part of some IBM 486 PS/2 machine.
You might try some vendor of stuff by manufacturers like Data General etc. DG have nice big keyboards.
No not a Mac user, into BSD and Linux. h0dad's Linux box has not crashed in over 2 years and he uses it every day.
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On 2/7/2003 No Lies
wrote in from
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There are NO lies in that post. It is an accurate recount of what happened, as others do agree. I am a man of God and I try to NOT tell lies and bare false witness against my neighbors. I would be glad to meet you anytime-and I imagine I would probably return the courtesy and extend my handshake out as well. But, dude, you made things sound like threats, and threats always have to be taken seriously-as I'm sure you'd agree. And you also made it sound as if you wanted me to give you something in exchange for some favors or something. If you want, we can meet and rap sometime or you can ring me on the Skaterbuilt #
(562) 431-2406 if you still want to get a deck.
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On 2/7/2003 hugh r
wrote in from
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Before he distorts another of my emails and blasts me here, I'll post what I just sent to him:
"Dave Dave Dave...
Your distortion of the facts is truly inspired!
It just surprizes me that with your never even having met me, or knowing who I am, that you would take such a hostile, inaccurate, and outright aggressive stance against me... I am looking forward to meeting you!
And the funny thing is, that we probably won't hate eachother... because I'll be nice to you Dave. I won't even call you names or get in your face, or yell at you or vibe you at all... I'll just hold out my hand for a handshake.
Might I suggest that you work on your tendacy to turn things "ugly"... and try to see the opportunities and beauty around you... HR"
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On 2/7/2003 hugh r
wrote in from
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And a big handful of outright lies...
I am looking forward to meetin you to discuss this unfortunate email in person...
Your hype has now crossed the line with me in a personal way and I will introduce my self to you... HR
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On 2/7/2003 hugh r
wrote in from
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I will only reply that you have placed your usual disorted view of the FACTS in your presentation... HR
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Bearing Whores....
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On 2/7/2003 Puddin' tane, ask me again I'll tell you the same
wrote in from
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Let's set the record straight:
About 2 months ago a certain someone (along with a few of his online cronies) was calling for a BAN on a certain (reputable) bearing company and claiming that their product was all mere HYPE.
This certain someone's slander remained acceptable and was allowed to stay on this forumn (just go back and take a look for yourselves).
After that, several educated responses were posted by many reputable (skaters)in defense of the reputable bearing company and were either ridiculed by a certain someone (with his online cronies chiming in)or were nuked by the moderator of this site.
A certain someone decided to turn things around by claiming that these individuals were personally attacking him and were only defending the reputable bearing company because they all got free bearings-because these bearings were just a bunch of hype-right?
Then to save face, this certain someone decided to "play Mr. Nice guy" with the bearing company defenders and to kinda let things go with a few warm and fuzzy, light-hearted posts.
During this time, this certain someone privately e mailed some of the bearing company defenders threatening that he could play "Mr. Nice Guy" or could play "Mr. Penis" by playing "hardball" by continuing his anti-promotion of the reputable bearing company by giving them negative reviews on his website and on this forumn.
*note: It was at about this time when the KLEZ worm computer virus had been attached to this certain someone's e mails (which is a felony and an unlawful FEDERAL OFFENSE)
Then, after more face-saving and feelgood posts, this certain someone decided to start his so-called "Bearing Wars" and was calling on all of the other bearing companies to submit product to him for his "expert" testing and review.
Now, this certain someone has a "bearing quiver" and plans on keeping the fast ones for himself and give the rest out as charity to low-income skaters? What a saint.
It was this certain someone that privately e mailed one of the bearing company defenders who happens to have his own skate deck company and stated that "I can help you or I can hurt you". This certain someone implied that if he were sent a deck, that he would give it a review on his "heavily traveled" website, which would help sell more of them because his reviews were so well respected and seen by so many.
Well, you are not gonna get anything for free from me-I'd rather give a few promotional decks out to "riders" not "writers". Maybe you scored a bunch of cool bearings, but you're going to have to buy one of my products at full price (if you still want it) Like everyone else does. I don't need your kind of help and neither does the bearing company that you claimed "you could hurt".
Threats are not taken lightly.
You have only "hurt" yourself.
The record is clear-the cat is out of the bag.
Nuke Me Now!
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Right to have an opinion?
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On 2/7/2003 Opinionated?
wrote in from
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Was Mr Chaputs post related to bearing discussion? Did he have something valuable to contribute?..Or was he just unable to control himself anymore and had to post HIS OPINION...It may have been sucking up to NCDSA but does that give him the right to remain visable?
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Questions
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On 2/7/2003 Opinionated.
wrote in from
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Please define Attacks on others. I would like to know if NCDSA thinks Mr Chaputs post was an attack or an opinion?
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People's Choice award
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On 2/7/2003 Not what Hugh thinks it is..
wrote in from
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Funny how Hugh's rambling posts that are not related to bearings manage to stay visible again and again..I think it is Adam's integrity that is in question. There should be no censorship on this site. Challenging someones beliefs or questioning thier integrity is part of our country's great history. We all have opinions. For someone such as Adam to choose what stays and goes based off of his personal beliefs reflects directly on his integrity. He may have the right to delete because this is a pirvate web site. But he does have to take responsibility for his choices and whether he likes it or not, those choices reflect on his integrity and more.Adam gives Hugh the power to respond to objections and opinions about his bearing tests and integrity. He allows Hugh's posts to stay visable while deleting those who have just as much right to remain on this bullentin board for others to read...Selective deleting such as Adam is doing is absolutely wrong.
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On 2/7/2003 toddc
wrote in from
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Chillbilly huck, I said it was "largely" a southern thing. Not "only" a southern thing. If you don't think the things I mentioned were more prevalent in the south than the north then you are kidding yourself.
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Go away
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On 2/7/2003
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
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The NCDSA is not the USA and you do not have (nor have you ever had) the "freedom" or the "right" to write whatever you want here. This is a private enterprise and posting here is a privelege. If all of the crap about who doesn't like whom merely went away, no one would miss it.
I can guarantee you, if you leave, you will not be missed. If you have any ideas abut how to make better bearings or improve the bearings that we already have, great. The only thing that I hear you say is this juvenile "Harley's rule" type of garbage.
If you know nothing and offer nothing, please exercise your freedom to SAY NOTHING and allow the guys who bring something to the table a place to discuss skateboarding products.
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On 2/7/2003
Antti S. Brax
wrote in from
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hugh, that was a good post.
h0dad, where'd you get that? My work keyboard, 1994 KeyTronic, is great and I need a non-M$ board for home too. And please don't say you're a mac user. ;-)
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On 2/6/2003
Arab
wrote in from
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Which hate group do you belong to?
http://www.tolerance.org/maps/hate/state.jsp?state_id=11
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On 2/6/2003 hugh r
wrote in from
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I wasn't going to involve myself in this at all... but I want to just say a couple of things about "uniforms", so please bear with me.
How do you know who the cop is? By the uniform.
How about the fireman? By the uniform.
I have teenage kids. I have tried to explain my "uniform theory" on more than one occasion, but they don't seem to get it... seems to be lost on the youth, but I'll try it here and see where it gets me.
How do you tell the ball players? By the uniform.
How about the referees? By the uniform.
There are lots of other types of uniforms too. Ocassionally people will impersionate other people by wearing the uniform that belongs to a certain group.
Impersionate a cop or military officer and you go to jail... no matter why you were wearing that uniform and whether or not you believe that just because some people think a cop uniform signifies that your a cop.
Does having your name tatooed in green script across your stomach make you a gang member? Maybe not, but it's part of their uniform.
Does putting on a military uniform with the markings of an officer make you one. Maybe not, but it's a uniform that others will see and believe.
The uniform theory goes beyond clothes and tatoos... it can cover haircuts or patterns of speech. If a paticular type of haircut is widely used by a paticular association of people and you choose to wear your hair like them, then don't be surprized when your thought to be one of them... because your wearing part of their uniform.
Oh you may think it's fashion... but your wrong. Just because you don't agree that what your doing identifies with that group, doesn't mean that it doesn't.
You will be judged by the uniform your wearing... right or wrong... real or poser... knowing or unknowing. Welcome to the real world.
You can take the 666 and say it means anything you want... but you know what it means... it's the number of a man, and it symbolizes the anti-christ. You can think it means something else and come up with a million reasons why... but your only fooling yourself... the wisdom in your own mind is wrong.
You can take the swastika and do the same thing... but it's still a symbol of the nazi's... if you think its something else, then your wrong and your only fooling yourself.
You can take the rebel flag and call it whatever you want, but it's still the symbol white power. You can call it whatever you want, but your wrong and not fooling anyone but yourselves.
You can call a pig a dog all day long but that won't keep him out of the mud.
You can call hate symbols expressive art or history till your blue in the face but that doesn't change what they symbolize.
But you know what? This is America! And your free to use your 666 and your swastika and your rebel flag... whether any one likes it or not.
And you know what else? Your free to call it expression or history or a myth or whatever you want to... and your free to believe your own words.
But you know what else? It doesn't change the truth. That those are all symbols of death and hate and to call them anything else is a lie straight out of the pit of hell... HR
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On 2/6/2003
Hillbilly Chuck
wrote in from
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Thank you Steve, Stubbs, and Wesley for daring to display a shred of intelligence.
toddc..."Slavery, jim Crow, segregation, separate white and black churches...naw those aren't largely southern things are they?" Do you know history, or just the politically-correct claptrap that passes for it these days? Was slavery ever practiced throughout the United States, not just the South? Was the South the last place it remained because the Northern-influenced Congress taxed Southern agriculture to the point that the only way the Southern farmer could survive was by using "free" labor? Jim Crow...was it a Southern Court, or the Supreme Court of the United States, that rules that a negro is 3/5ths of a human? Seperate white and black churches exist to this day everywhere...North and South, East and West. Schools...this Southerner had to be bused to attend a high school 20 miles away every day for 4 years, when there was another high school 2 miles away, in order toachieve a "more favorable racial balance"...did you? Or do you live in a part of the country that isn't still being punished for the sins of its forefathers?
Slavery was a regrettable and deplorable institution, but to say it was a "Southern" thing is to show a grave lack of knowledge of the facts. The fact that it was practiced throuighout America at various points; the fact that merchant seamen from many other countries, including our oh-so-innocent European friends, helped fuel the trade; the fact that it was not white Europeans providing slaves at the source, but rather rival African tribes selling their enemies to slave traders (a situation that continues to this day...inter-tribal warfare and rivalries are behind virtually every conflict in Africa to this day, including those in which food has been used as a weapon resulting in mass famine...Ethiopia, Somalia, etc.). And the fact is there are indeed millions of people in slavery to this day...yes, this still includes Africans, but also men and women in the Middle East, Asia and the Orient, the Balkans, and yes even America. If you want to fight slavery, direct your energies where they matter, toward freeing the millions of people held in bondage today, not toward those who choose to wear a flag you will never understand for reasons you will never know.
But I can guarantee you this, the Civil War was not fought to "institutionalize racism". Seek the truth, and attempt a more sophisticated understanding of your past...
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On 2/6/2003 toddc
wrote in from
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I thought the civil war started when the Union was going to admit a few new states (not sure which..Kansas, Missouri.) and wanted to make sure that no new states would have legal slavery. The south demanded one state be slave, one be free and the union resisted. Shortly thereafter the war started in South Carolina - under the Confederate Flag. This was a flag of succession (treason) from the Union; it was a flag that was flown in defiance of Anti-slavery measures; it was a flag that united slave states against non-slave states.
If you guys want to go through the usual verbal gymnastics and justifications (war heroism - in viet nam and WW2? the confederacy did not fight in those wars now did it?, or tax issues or states rights-sure we'll all die for that!) go ahead. The rest of us know better.
Slavery, jim Crow, segregation, separate white and black churches...naw those aren't largely southern things are they? And the flag that united the south could never have stood for any ideology that supported slavery now could it?
If the south is no worse than any other part of the country today - why take "pride" in something that represents a time period and attitude that was wrong morally, tragic in human terms, and a "loss" for the south on all levels?
I'd like to think that America is beyond stupid regional pride. I am from the midwest and live in LA. All I ever hear is what big dumb boring squares people are from the midwest. Uncultured hicks. Stereotype. It is much like what you hear about southerners. Stereotype again. But flying a flag from Michigan and flying a confederate flag are two very different things. One is a statement of geography, the other a statement of mentality. The latter plays into the unfair sterotypes - willingly - which makes us wonder if the sterotypes are that unfair to begin with.
As I said before, the only race that matters to me is the one with the timers and the cones. Your flag proves that this has not always been the case.
That being said I consider southerners today to be no different from the rest of the country. I meet so many California rednecks and crackers you would be amazed. Michigan, where I come from, has a history of race riots and house burning (Malcom X). Every city, in every state in this country has it's fair share of racists.(And it's fair share of good people). I wish it werent so. I am glad though that this racism is not "intitutionalized" as the south wished it to be so long ago. A wish that was fought for under the confederate flag.
I'll call trent lott and see what he has to say.
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On 2/6/2003 h0dad
wrote in from
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...did h0dad mention that his beautiful new keyboard has no microsoft buttons? Just while we're on the subject of slavery...
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On 2/6/2003
Antti S. Brax
wrote in from
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What a rant, Arab! I wonder why you wrote it because all you say is exactly my point.
I repeat.
There are other ways to learn to play baseball than obsessive competitiveness. Kids are there to have fun, nothing more, nothing less. They have the rest of their life to learn about how f#@!ed up our society is. Why spoil their childhood with that?
What I like most is that you teach your kid to assault whoever is weaker than him. That is really healthy.
A few words about "WINNING whether or be on the field or off": Enron and WorldCom. I bet the thousands of laid off people appreciated the way their managers wanted WIN, WIN, WIN off the field too.
I teach my kids that play fair is more important than winning. On or off the field. This planet really doesn't need another GWB, SH or OBL.
I don't care how good your kid is. I skate for fun, not because my dad wants me to.
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On 2/6/2003 Brady
wrote in from
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http://www.infoplease.com/spot/slavery1.html
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On 2/6/2003 Stubbs
wrote in from
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No, Wes, I think it does matter and I thank you for speaking the facts.
My comments were directed at the Civil War arguement. I apologize for the narrow-sightedness.
And no matter who is enslaving whom, it is a disgusting practice. Africa is the example to behold as of present time.
Hopefully those people can be liberated one day as well.
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On 2/6/2003
Wesley Tucker
wrote in from
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Stubbs,
What do you mean "was?" There are documented at least 3,000,000 (three million) slaves right NOW in African and some non-African islamic countries.
Who are the slaves? Mostly African Christians. This isn't propoganda or some Moral Majority public relations ploy. Every major human rights watch group from Amnesty International to the UN Human Rights Commission have decried the practice. That, however, is all that is done. Lots of talk and no action.
But, hey, it doesn't really matter now, does it? It's just black people doing it to other black people. It's not like it affects the way I live my life, right?
Right?
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On 2/6/2003
Stubbs
wrote in from
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Seems everyone thinks that slavery only went on in this nation. Slavery was worldwide and you did not have to be black to be turned into one. Everyone that was anyone was a slave owner/trader "back in the day". Including blacks.
I am not defending slavery in any form. The idea is disgusting. But these are the facts.
Slavery was an extremely unfortunate act that was perpetuated by a world wide population.
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On 2/5/2003 steve
wrote in from
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The war started because the north couldn't stand to lose tax revenue generated in the south. Outside of some quakers, nobody in the north could give two s#@!s about slaves. Racism existed and exists everywhere. To hell with the flag, to hell with racism, but dammit, hypocrisy has got to go. People in union states: yes, your s#@! DOES stink.
In my ideal world, Jefferson wouldn't have grown a damned backbone, freed his own slaves, and gone for abolition along with the Declaration. Then, the south won the war of secession, or, even better, seceeded with no war at all. Then, everyone held hands and sang "la la la la la" into the sunset. I can dream.
(There never was a "civil war," as the south never attempted to take over the government of the north!)
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