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On 11/13/2003
snoball
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Whenever you guys finish this debate, take a moment
to learn of a REAL battle...
http://www.bubbahotep.com/
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On 11/13/2003
Brady
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On 11/13/2003
PALMER
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YOU GUYS ARE f#@!ING LAME. AND WAY TO GO JONNYX BRINGING UP THE RACE CARD, ARE YOU PALS WITH AL SHARPTON. WE NEED TO NAME THIS SITE WWW.f#@!ARAB.COM, WOULD THAT MAKE YOU a#@!S HAPPY
PALMER
KNOCK THIS s#@! OFF
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On 11/13/2003
Leo
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Theres my email arab.
leo
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On 11/13/2003
G7enn
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Arab: Sorry for digging up the 'nigger' quote, I was just trying to illustrate a point about selective quoting. I was an arsehole for trying to make you look racist.
Jonny: And now you are doing exacly what Arab did, attacking him for something he said at a different time in a different forum.
Sorry for stiring up more off topic crap in this forum.
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On 11/13/2003 JONNYX
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i do not believer it is acceptable to use the term "nigger" as a derogatory label in any instance. doing so equates colour to character. I'd love to see arab using that justification on the streets of tottenham. oh no he wont come will he?
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On 11/13/2003
Michael
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Just so ther is NO confusion, I did not post that post below. Same IP provider...4 million others, etc etc etc...
Arab, I think, knows my views about using the 'N' word, and I have seen his explanation of why he used it, and in what context. I'm happy to accept that, and realise that he wasnt being rascist in his use of the word when he used it. In fact he explained it well, to my satisfaction, for what thats worth. The only problem is that not everyone gets to understand the thinking behind using such expressions, and Arab is getting the blunt end of the stick for using it, which is a little unfair.
Maybe I'm being too sensitive but I don't like it used in any context, and I don't mind who knows it.
PS, anyone seen any dry pavement?
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On 11/13/2003 its a quote
wrote in from
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arab - "i dont like niggers"
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On 11/12/2003 wax
wrote in from
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Dawkins for President....pools in every back yard, a skatepark by every sports feild and freedom of speech, no politically correct crap...
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On 11/12/2003
SeanD
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ARAB Rocks! What ever happened to the 1st Amendment? If you can't take the heat, get outta da kitchen. Hey, half of this board is all about f*%&ing with people. Get your panties outta your crack. Defecation Occurs. If you talk 'smack' and can back it up --then it ain't smack. I've had my 'grapes' snipped plenty of times on this board, but hey, that's why I keep coming back. Oh yeah, and one more thing, stop spankin' Don "O" and the FCR Boiz, they done more for Slalom that any a u pukes combined...
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On 11/12/2003
Slim
wrote in from
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SingleFin, I think you've got me all wrong. All I was trying to say is that if one is going to complain about someone being insulting, being even more personally insulting is not the best strategy. For some reason, Arab's posts read most like "trash talk" to me. We can all laugh or ignore or whatever. On the other hand, calling someone an idiot and making comments about his kid and whatnot (in the now missing post by ball bearing or someone anonymous like that) crossed the line from internet chat room goof-off to real life. Not cool.
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On 11/12/2003 single fin
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I read the post by mr. arab that was removed earlier today also. It was lame. Who wants to come here and read that trash?
Maybe there needs to be a "PRO Slalomer" forum so you guys can duke it out. I enjoy reading about the races you hold and maybe the old days by some the legends. I agree with the other guy "ball bearing". Please Stop that crap. I may just stick to the other slalom site. But Im sure Mr. Slim and Mr. Arab would'nt mind that. cuz Im not a "racer" Im just a kook who runs his little flexy skateboard thru little orange cones in the street.
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On 11/12/2003
Slim
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That last post is more insulting than anything I've read from Arab.
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On 11/12/2003 ball bearing
wrote in from
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A-rab, grow up! I hope your kid dosent see you act like this.
jeez you act like idiot. right or wrong. your a bully and an ass. i enjoyed being the final vote to remove your ranting post. i come here to read and learn about slalom skating. your agro s#@!ty rants make me sick.
your gang mentality is a sign of your insecurity.
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On 11/12/2003 MissouriMatt
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It is sad to see that free people, living in the shadow of peace, waste their time posting the kind of crap I've read/skimmed on NCDSA lately. I come here to share some stoke, get skate related info, spend a few minutes thinking about something I love... Skating. Take the hate somewhere else. All of you. Turn the other cheek. Don't respond to the flame. Don't go to the dark side, Luke.
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On 11/12/2003 *
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On 11/12/2003 Arab wrote in from 24.24.xxx.xxx:
John O- We cant let the Fags take over slalom, They will come and go like always and the true skateboarders like ourselves will prevail like we always have.
I was just sent this little quote that Glen Shotwell made,(yeah Glen is the guy that tried to get the advertising vendors on NCDSA to pull their ads unless the webmaster banned me here)
"Did anyone see the posts that were blatantly bashing Chris Chaput that were "RE-POSTED!!!" by the webmaster at ncdsa after unanimously and quickly being voted off by the viewers?
Might anyone see that as a bit vindictive by the ncdsa webmaster because Chris pulled his ads?"
Actually Glen, lets set the record straight, first off you have accused the webmaster of something that isnt true, YOUR A LIAR!!!!!!
The posts that I made that got abused by the viewers was reposted by me twice, the webmaster pulled it twice and I reposted it 2 more times, Why did the webmaster pull it? because he asked me not to post Chris Chaputs Personal info, This is the same info that Chris has used in ads for his company so I failed to see what the problem was.... Apperantly Chris needed something to complain about so he used this, Why when all the info was common knowledge??????
The webmaster pulled it once and I reposted it without Chaputs info, then it was pulled 2 more times by the viewers with abuse votes, I continued to repost it because it was fun to watch people that have so much hate in them scramble to get it removed, I reposted again with Chaputs info, I had copy and pasted it from where I saved it but forgot to delete Chaputs info, I was rubuked by the webmaster and suspended from posting as he pulled it again.
Glen, not only are you a liar, but you have slandered the webmaster, You also are a kaniving cheat that asked me to keep my mouth shut about a shady transaction that you were trying to swindle somebody for.
I think before you dig yourself deeper you should apologise to the Vendors that you tried to hoodwink into believing your lies, you then should apologise to the Webmaster for your greed and lies that you told about him, then you should apologise to the slalom community of which you really have no part of other then the fact that you have led people astray into believing you actually know how to ride a skateboard, then you should apologise to me for the lies you have told about me, then you should apologise to your wife for what you did to her.
If you think this website is full of personal attacks, go over to Slalomsycophant.com and you can see how they are spreading the hate, Their latest victim is Jack Smith, I wouldnt say anybody is beyond reproach, but if there is anybody that is near it, it is Jack, and these people have no regard or respect for Jack making this whole rebirth what it is. I'm sure those people will be changing their posts and The webmaster will probably remove the whole thread in order to protect his beloved website that is so full of hate. Just like he did last time they tried to lynch Jack. Why is the webmaster there trying to cover up for people? Is he trying to hide the fact that his website is as big a farce as he is?
A note to Jani- you have encircled yourself with a group of people that are doing nothing but harm to your good name.
wait til you read Adam Trahans latest about how he is trying to save the universe, its the very reason he and his website are a bunch of sycophants
synonyms PARASITE, SYCOPHANT, TOADY, LEECH, SPONGE mean a usually obsequious flatterer or self-seeker. PARASITE applies to one who clings to a person of wealth, power, or influence or is useless to society . SYCOPHANT adds to this a strong suggestion of fawning, flattery, or adulation . TOADY emphasizes the servility and snobbery of the self-seeker . LEECH stresses persistence in clinging to or bleeding another for one's own advantage . SPONGE stresses the parasitic laziness, dependence, and opportunism of the cadger .
Glen I bet the webmaster removes this post before you and your girlfriends can!
Land of the free, home of the brave!
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On 11/10/2003 jonnyx
wrote in from
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yeah but i missed you.
lansing singled you out because you were the first to turn the thread nasty i guess but what do i know ive never raced FCR or even been to huntington beach the epicenter of all things arab. but then again i have raced skateboards on 4 continents, competed at the gravity games, punched a copper and got away with it, outwitted douaniers europewide and loads of other totally irrelevant stuff.
who says weve got nothing in common?
and what does the A in ncdsa stand for anyway?
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On 11/10/2003
Arab
wrote in from
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Lamesing-If you go back and follow the thread instead of showing up here every 3 days you will see that I was 5th in line to go off topic on the slalom forum and not the first to hurl a personal attack.
You singled me out and did to me what you have accused me of, Why would you not single out any of the other 4 people that went off topic before me?
Remember, it was Jack, Hugh, Zannah and Jonny followed by me on the off topic of war, but no you had to personally attack me and accuse me of things others did before me, if you would stay up to date you would have seen the big pictuire, but instead you choose to attack me because you think that I'm responsable for all personal attacks on NCDSA, follow the f#@!ing threads a#@!, The webmaster does, and the reason I'm still here is because he sees right through idiots like you that start s#@! first.
As far as you and I having anything in common, not hardly!
I would like to see the personal garbage off the slalom forum also, so why did you start it up?
look in the mirror hypocrite!
Jonny-freedom......... yeah you can thank the US for your freedom, and dont forget it! I thought you were done with this website Mr Hate?
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On 11/10/2003
Lansing
wrote in from
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Hi Eric/Arab,
You totally misunderstood my post, and took the whole thing overly defensive. Why do you attack me by saying that "non slalomers like yourself will not bring it down, no matter how hard you try?" What leads you to make such a random assumption that I'm trying to "bring slalom down"?
You must be confusing me with someone else. I am not trying to "bring slalom down", nor did my post imply anything of the sort. To the contrary! I am wholly supportive of the slalom resurgence and think it's awesome!
I also wonder why you call me a "non-slalomer" just because (as I explained up front) I don't race. That's like saying that someone is a "non-skater" if they don't compete in vert competitions, or a "non-downhiller" if they don't race EDI, or a "non-musician" if they haven't recorded a CD. You made my point better than I could: It is rather odd and illogical (and meanspirited) to attack someone's post as being irrelevent or insipid just because they don't compete professionally (or if they do, they don't win races all the time).
Yes, you are right: the slalom board is the most active. But as anyone (including Adam, by the way) will attest to, it is also rife with personal attacks back and forth, and more "off-topic" stuff than most other boards combined. By the way: my post was NOT "off-topic," as it dealt specifically with the slalom board.
Look -- I do not know you. But just because I don't know you personally or I don't race professionally doesn't make me a clueless idiot or an "enemy" of slalom. I know that you have made HUGE contributions to the sport (not just slalom), that you are one of the top riders in the world, and that you are extremely, extremely passionate about slalom & skating in general. For all that I give you major kudos and props, which you deserve! So calm down: I am *not* part of some "anti-Arab" conspiracy or whatever. Really.
All I was pointing out is that the personal attacks and off-topic stuff on the slalom board are ridiculous and offensive and boring and SO OLD and out-of-control. And if you read my post you will see that I was in NO WAY condoning or defending jonnyx or whoever he is. And yet you turn around and make personal attacks on me, including implying that I agree with jonny's political views on Iraq!!! A far-fetched presumption, based on *nothing* other than the fact that you didn't like my post. So all of the sudden I am anti-American (like jonny, even though I never even *mentioned* Iraq and you have NO IDEA what my political views are), I'm a "non-slalomer," and I'm an ignorant newbie because I've only posted twice to the slalom board. This is precisely the kind of personal attack which I was complaining about.
Let me say it again just so you don't freak out: This is not a flame against Arab. It is a comment on the state of the slalom board, which is f*&$d up and overloaded with personal, non-slalom crap. You and I probably have more in common than you think, and we'd probably get along great in person! I'm not a professional skater, but I've been skating for 30 years and have a small skate biz, and I'd be stoked to even skate the same sesh with you someday. So please do not shred me up and down and make all sorts of assumptions and attacks based on overly defensive emotion.
There is no question you make as valuable contributions to slalom as anyone else (including Jack or John or Chris), and that you *CARE* down to your bones about the future of the sport. But this passion often rises to the surface as anger and vitriol and gets personal -- and you don't have to post more than twice to the slalom board to figure that out. Your passion is evident and is probably one of the reasons you (and your son) rip so hard. I'm not trying to play therapist here, but when you follow the flame-wars over the past 2 years, it is no coincidence that you are involved in nearly every single one. Yeah, there are other total jerks who make inappropriate and offensive remarks (like jonnyx at times), no question, and anyone who has read ncdsa for some time knows that it's not always your fault. But my post and your turning it around to a personal attack on someone you don't even know demonstrates what has happened dozens of times...
I *have* read ncdsa for 3+ years, so I know full well what goes on here and I'm not a clueless idiot or trying to "bring slalom down" as you state (a totally bizarre claim). I just wish the personal garbage on the slalom board was less, and your sarcastic reponse makes my point, I'm afraid.
No hard feelings, though. I'll probably get ripped for this post, too, but that's OK.
Anyway, all best.
Lansing
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On 11/10/2003 jonnyx
wrote in from
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yeah, just like the people of Kuwait who never got IT after the last war.
IT being democracy, of course.
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On 11/10/2003 Dave G
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LBB,
And some people just never get it.
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On 11/10/2003 jonnyx
wrote in from
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is it about democracy?
is it about freedom?
is it even about WMD?
heres the truth straight from the horses mouth;
arab wrote ; "Hopefully this pending WAR will create jobs and the economy will flourish again"
now if only Bush was so honest.....
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On 11/9/2003 LBB
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Dave G, i have two mates one comes from Northern Turkey and the other from the Ukraine and i quoted them Shaw's perfect observation and they both laughed their nuts off shouting out "TRUE".....most people get it the first time Dave.
Oh and dont worry about Jonny going to America any time soon....you see the USA locks people up without trial and access to lawyers "indefinitely" its scary a bit like Russia circa the cold war.
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On 11/9/2003 toddc
wrote in from
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Yes, I am posting in another non-slalom forum.
First off, it is easy to get into extreme and simplistic thinking when it comes to war. Jonnyx and Arab are both guilty of this. Simplistic left wing and right wing views.
Now, we are 6 months or more into this war and it is time for reflection. What has been accomplished? Some good (Saddam is gone). Some bad (Iraq is in tatters - no electricity, no jobs, no stability, nearly 10,000 civilians dead, 300+ US dead)
So the right wingers can claim victory and the left wingers can claim injustice and both are right. It's complex. I think 75% of people out there don't know what to make of things. The extremists on both sides are very sure of their opinions which shows that neither is really thinking.
This simplistic lack of thinking leads to contradictory emotions when reality sets in. For instance, Hugh R (who by most accounts is a stand up guys and has always been cool to me), states that he falls to his knees in tears when he thinks his son may have to go to Iraq. This illustrates that the thinking that goes into supporting the military meets with a hard reality when the potential death of a loved one is possible. It has always been so, and that's the tragedy of war. (personally, I would fall to my knees in tears if my kid joined the military). At the same time, there is no way that someone like Johnnyx can really support a tyrant like Saddam.
It is also the reason that we need to make sure that war is necessary. Because people should not be lost for causes that are not necessary.
So here we are, 6 months down the road. Was this war necessary? Are 10,000 Iraqi deaths necessary? Are the 32 good men lost week necessary? I don't think so, but I'm not smart enough to see the future and to know the eventual truth of this.
My guess is neither side is right. We won't have a flourishing democratic society in Iraq for a generation or two if that. However, we also won't have despot killing with an iron fist whenever he feels like it.
Instead we will probably have an instable situtation for another 20 years or so, and that $87 billion will turn into $200 billion in another ten years (while American schools crumble, borders crumble, industrial sector crumbles, etc.). And then in 20 years, Arab can say we were right. Johnnyx can say we were wrong. And hopefully Hugh R's kid will be alive, and we can go on believing whatever simplistic notions we want to about what took place this past 6 months and the next 20 years.
But don't forget, each life lost is a terrible sin unless it was absolutely, without question, necessary.
In the meantime, I'll be here sitting on my fence, hoping diplomacy can avoid such travesties in the future which probably makes me a loser in both Arabs and Jonnys eyes. At least it is something they can agree upon.
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