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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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some goon wrote "The 60 or so leftist and Islamist groups involved in this odd enterprise have never managed to win more than one half of one percent of the votes in any British general election. Nor have they succeeded in winning a single seat in parliament or a majority in a single municipal council."
umm then why did the mayor of london refuse to meet bush, instead holding a dinner for anti-war activists?
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On 11/21/2003 U Roe
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I'll put forward twenty Deutschmarks.
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On 11/21/2003 impeach bush
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more quotes from the unelected commander in chimp:
Right after the 9/11 attacks he stated, "Yes, I hit the trifecta!"
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On 11/21/2003 he said this too
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"They misunderestimated me."
Bentonville, AR 11/6/00
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On 11/21/2003 Jorge Bush
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There ought to be limits on freedom.
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On 11/21/2003 Norman D Landing
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John... Since when was Germany 'landlocked'? I missed that bit on the news...
Mind you the Swiss hold the Americas cup for yachts...
The "JG's getting an atlas for Christmas fund" is now accepting donations.
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On 11/21/2003
Lacks "MORL CURGE"
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Always depressing to hear normal, well-adjusted, *intelligent* American folk speaking about dissenters being unpatriotic... so one mo' time:
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
- President Thomas Jefferson
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President."
- President Theodore Roosevelt
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from the government."
- Thomas Paine
and more besides.
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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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"He will be the first U.S. president to come to Britain on a state visit."
so woodrow wilson wasnt your president after all? id like to know just what he was doing here on his way to versailles then.
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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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hang on a minute i could be mistaken - the spelling and grammar in that post is OK.
oh, i forgot, cut & paste, thats how its done.
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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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"stalinist peace movement"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
now thats a good one.................
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On 11/21/2003 jonnyx
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hi brady
that wasnt me posting that last time, check the IP address.
i'm no sherlock holmes, but i only know one person that posts here using false identities, and we all know who that is. so, arab, why dont you print your source?
just because we dont agree does that make us all communists? man, 200,000 communists all taking a day off work at once just to protest, thats no urban proletariat in anyones book. who was manning the machines? funny, one of those communists used to be margaret thatchers home secretary. do you think she should be told?
like all extremists, arab will assume that those who do not agree with him are extremists in the opposite sense. THAT is where this "communist " bulls#@! comes from.
that graphic was absolutly bloody hilarious, keep em coming uncs.
oooh ive just had a very scary thought. arab having multiple personalities is one thing, but now he thinks he's me! not just schizo but delusions of grandeur too!
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On 11/20/2003
Brady
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jonnyx,
You`re post responding to mine smacks as though you are defending yourself from an assumed position that I think you are anti american. Please don`t read ,more than what I wrote.
If you can really read in between the lines, you`d probably see that I also question Bush and Cheney`s motives as Bush comes from the oil buisness and Cheney with Haliburton.
Why is our war machine privatized and those that make the decisions on war benefit finacially from it?
Anti Bush?, OK, maybe I might agree.
Anti American?, that`s like saying you are against freedom. Makes no sense.
But I`m glad you`ve clarified your position and are not still wishing deaths of our soldiers.
I wish no more human lives would be lost over ideology, but I know the hard realities of mere wishing.
Therefore I only wish to skate more ;-}
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On 11/20/2003 jonnyx
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Heres to the Dolt that wrote this:
(some divot wrote-"British Islamic movement, a socialist party."
DONT THINK SO PAL)
Try Again
George W. Bush's visit to London this week will be historic for at least two reasons. He will be the first U.S. president to come to Britain on a state visit. He will also observe a bizarre political marriage: one between the remnants of the Marxist-Leninist Left and militant Islamists. Negotiated over the past two years, the "wedding," will be celebrated in a mass demonstration against Bush's visit.
The demonstration is organized by a shadowy group called "Stop the War Coalition," part of the Hate-America-International, which has orchestrated a number of street "events" in support of the Taliban and the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein since 2001.
When I called the coalition to ask whether the idea was to stop all wars, a spokeswoman assured me that this was not the case.
She referred me to the first article of the coalition's charter that states: "The aim of the coalition is simple: to stop the war currently declared by the United States and its allies against 'terrorism.'"
"We really want to stop Bush and Blair from going around killing babies," she said. "Our objective is to force the U.S. out of Iraq and Afghanistan."
But what if a U.S. withdrawal means the return of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein?
"Anything would be better than American Imperialist rule," she snapped back.
Who are these nostalgics of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein?
The coalition has a steering committee of 33 members. Of these, 18 come from various hard left groups: Communists, Trotskyites, Maoists, and Castrists. Three others belong to the radical wing of the Labour party. There are also eight radical Islamists. The remaining four are leftist ecologists known as "Watermelons" (Green outside, red inside).
The chairman of the coalition is one Andrew Murray, a former employee of the Soviet Novosty Agency and leader in the British Communist party. Cochair is Muhammad Asalm Ijaz of the London Council of Mosques. Members include John Rees of the Socialist Workers' party and Ghayassudin Siddiqui of the Muslim Parliament. Tanja Salem of the Al-awdah (The Return) group, an outfit close to Yasser Arafat, is also a member along with Shahedah Vawda of "Just Peace," another militant Arab group, and Wolf Wayne of the "Green Socialist Network."
A prominent member is George Galloway, a Labour-party parliamentarian under investigation for the illegal receipt of funds from Saddam Hussein. In his memoirs, Galloway says that the day the Soviet Union collapsed was "the saddest day" of his life.
Galloway says the only terrorism in the world today comes from the United States, not from organizations such as al Qaeda or the remnants of the Iraqi Baath party.
The coalition was created in London in September 2001, at first as an exclusively leftist concoction bringing together the remnants of the Stalinist "peace movement" of the 1950s, diehard "no nukes" activists, and some fellow travellers.
The coalition has succeeded beyond the wildest dreams of its founders. For the first time ever it has brought together all radical leftist and anarchist groups. Under its umbrella march such traditional former archenemies as Stalinists and Trotskyites.
But the coalition's biggest success is the alliance that it has forged between the extreme Left and militant Islamist groups. This would have been unthinkable even a couple of years ago. The Left always regarded Islam as a "relic of feudalism" and an instrument of reactionary Arab regimes. For their part, the Islamists regarded leftists as atheist enemies who had to be put to the sword.
The first to advocate a leftist-Islamist alliance against Western democracies was Ayman Al Zawahiri al Qaeda's #2.
In a message to al Qaeda sympathizers in Britain in August 2002, he urged them to seek allies among "any movement that opposes America, even atheists."
The idea has received strong support from Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, the Venezuelan terrorist known as "Carlos the Jackal."
In his book Revolutionary Islam, published in Paris last month, Carlos, who says he has converted to Islam, says he has advised Osama bin Laden, the al Qaeda leader, to forge an alliance with "all guerrilla, terrorist and other revolutionary groups throughout the world, regardless of their religious or ideological beliefs."
Carlos says Islam is the only force capable of persuading large numbers of people to become "volunteers" for suicide attacks against the U.S.
"Only a coalition of Marxists and Islamists can destroy the US," he says.
This week's anti-Bush demonstration in London will mark the emergence of a coalition the hard core of which consists of the radical Left and militant Islamism. Around it we find other groups who hate the U.S. for different reasons. There are supporters of free abortion, opponents of capital punishment, anti-globalization fanatics, advocates of the Kyoto protocol on the environment, and anti-Semites who believe the Jews control the United States. But a good part of the planned demonstrations will, as always, consist of what Lenin called "the useful idiots", men and women of good faith whose political naiveté makes them natural targets for experts in agitprop.
But why are these people taking to the streets?
One reason is that the parties, groups, and individuals involved have consistently failed to find a place in the normal institutions of British democracy.
The 60 or so leftist and Islamist groups involved in this odd enterprise have never managed to win more than one half of one percent of the votes in any British general election. Nor have they succeeded in winning a single seat in parliament or a majority in a single municipal council.
Those who can never win elections, always take to the streets. Street politics enables them to escape debate on complex issues that cannot be reduced to a few simplistic slogans.
Britain's participation in the war against terrorism was the subject of four exhaustive debates in the House of Commons in 2001 and 2002, each followed by a vote that Prime Minister Tony Blair won.
Street politics is for those who wish to abolish individual political judgment, the cornerstone of democratic life. Street politics encourages the irrational tendencies of crowds that could turn into hunting packs or lynch mobs. Power won in the streets produces only ochlocracy (rule by the worst).
To make sure that no discordant voice is heard, the organizers of the demonstrations have announced that only "authorized" t-shirts, hats and other paraphernalia will be allowed. Only four slogans are permitted: "Stop Bush," "Stop Blair," " U.S. Out of Iraq and Afghanistan," and " Bush Go Home!"
The demonstration's security force, made up of muscular Marxists and Islamists, has instructions to prevent any sign of pro-American sentiments. A group that has said it wants to take part in the demonstrations with t-shirts saying "Bush-Cheney: Four More Years!" has been warned of "dire consequences."
The London demonstration is planned and will be supervised in the best Stalinist traditions still in force in North Korea.
In countries that suffer under despotism, the street is, at times, the only space available to the opposition. This is why we hear so much about the so-called "Arab street." But do we need a "British street" that disdains the institutions of democracy, including mainstream political parties, and the parliament?
"the evidence is out there, you only have to look"
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On 11/20/2003 uncle 66
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On 11/20/2003 jonnyx
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some divot wrote-"British Islamic movement, a socialist party."
DONT THINK SO PAL
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On 11/20/2003 worth a mention
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Guess who is leading the protest in England?
Guess who is funding the protest and paying all the bills and permits and any cost associated with the large protest?
The Stop the War Coalition
The Chairman of this group......The leader of the British Communist Party.
Co-Chairman..The head of the British Islamic movement, a socialist party.
Well there is some real upstanding citizens.
"the evidence is out there, you only have to look"
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On 11/20/2003 jonnyx
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hi henry actually im in cornwall.
concerning anti - americanism, neither am i along with so many others who are however anti - bush.
heres a for instance;
a friend of mine married a girl from san diego last month. she works for the pentagon, writing training manuals for the military, or as she puts it-"i explain highly complicated, potentially lethal processes to utter morons"
they are both in london chucking rocks at bush today. he married one and she is one.
those who bandy about the term "anti american" to describe any and all who are not positive about bush need to read aesop's "the boy who cried wolf".
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On 11/20/2003 henry
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jonnyx: thank you. it's good to see not all americans being infiltrated by bush's agressive war propaganda that's been spreaded all over the world since 9/11.
brady:
from over here in europe, it looks like america wants world domination, and your government forcefully driving it there with the excuse that it's all a fight against terrorism. neither the strike on afghanistan did stop it, nor the war on iraq did. today two bombs exploded in istanbul.
as far as i can see, the american agression destabilizes the middle east region far more than saddam hussein could ever have done it.
iraq is in a state of anarchy, and there is no american effort to change that, so it's proven bush didn't want democracy, he wanted oil.
i think the american policy is imperialistic and dangerous for the entire world, and remember, middle east is much nearer to europe than to you. I'm still afraid of the consequences.
don't think i'm anti-american. i'm not a member of attac or something. i buy american products. i watch american films. i eat american food. and at least, i ride an american-made skateboard, that's the reason i'm posting this in a skateboard forum.
just an european. period.
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On 11/20/2003 worth a mention
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/358DB587-E977-4CBA-BEC9-84957169B63B.htm
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On 11/20/2003 jonnyx
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other brutal oil dictators currently supported by the white house are in power in Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Equatorial Guinea. the only difference between these guys and saddam is that these guys can be bought. they commit massive human rights abuses including boiling their enemies alive, mass graves left right and centre, you name it, but so long as the black gold flows they will continue to be supported by the big business that runs Washington.
the evidence is out there, you only have to look.
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On 11/19/2003
Brady
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Mr, Wallace,
I might be inclined to agree with as I`ve seen what big brother`s might is capable of in my own backyard with the FTAA on Miami. I mean they purchased 6 new armored utility vehichles eqipped with water cannons. Like, do they plan on using them again?
As for Iraq, I have mixed feelings on that and can see why others see this as a pre-emptive strike, but there where way too many failures from Iraq of conforming with the mandates of the cease fire from the original Dessert Storm War.
I also feel that those in charge of making the "go to war" policy, show signs of conflict of interest with thier possible standings of personal gain because of this war.
Private interest should not dictate public policy.
But then again, there`s this brutal dictator with the great possibility of causing great destabilization in that region.
To me, the war is justified on it`s own merits, but it smack dabs too much of personal gain of those in charge and thier constituents.
I just pray that most of our good men and women of our armed forces, come home safely.
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On 11/17/2003 Hamm
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HughR, do it!. Bubba Ho-Tep is the funniest movie I've seen in a long time. Its a classic
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On 11/17/2003 If you don't know me by now, you will never never know me...
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WW... I would be happy to check out your page and respond to you... however,
the pop ups on you site are far to aggressive and were attempting to redirct my browser to who knows where, as well as trying to take over my browsers control...
Fix your pop ups and I'll read your stuff... until then, I'll advise people who don't like aggressive take over pop ups to steer clear...
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On 11/17/2003
William Wallace
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‘PRE-EMPTIVE WAR IS NO SOLUTION' SAYS NO TO WAR - AUSTRALIA
We are trying to get people to stop and think and see that the Bush administrations doctrine of Pre-emptive War is not only not a solution to terrorism, but we believe a recipe for continuous warfare between the West and the Islamic world (possibly spanning generations) that can only end up resulting in disaster for all of us.
See NO TO WAR - AUSTRALIA websites see
http://expage.com/notowar1
and
http://expage.com/notowaroniraq1a
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