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Street Luge (1208 Posts) Topic Street Luge Info Wheels/width and drift On 8/18/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Is it normal to drift a luge? Do some like to just make a setup that sticks no real drift? Because thats how I think I'd like it... Still deciding on wheels, 85mm speedvents in 75a or 79a, or 83mm fly wheels in 75a... Any thoughts? Flywheels are more popular but with 184mm trucks will they be wide enough? The speedvents are similar, probably more grippy even in the 79a duro (still may go 75a for the smoother ride) and are offset for more width... If the flys width wont be a issue though Ill probably do 75a 83mm flys just because it seems to be most common, and will look sexy with my green abec 11 bushings!     Rate post 278783 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Peg/Pegless On 8/15/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Thanks I will take him up on his offer... Locally a buttboard would probably be more fun where the hills are in the 40-50mph range but I plan on taking this to a run in gilroy good for 70mph, as well as some races down south... I really want the experience and comfort of a luge... But now I am trying to decide though, should I do it old fashion or do the pegless revolution? If I go pegless, how much "support" should I put for my legs? With pegs its an easy answer but with pegless whats the rule of thumb for where the luge should be on my legs? What are some of the benefits of pegless, and is it as stable and comfortable as pegged luges? Seems like it might be better, because its a nice cross between a rail design luge and a buttboard. This is the pegless design im looking at... http://www.skateluge.com/stluge.htm If I went with a peg it would be something similar to this design but the front wouldnt have the leg support and would have a hollow metal boom with foot pegs... but this design looks a lot more simple...     Rate post 278525 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) First Sled On 8/15/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.69.nnn.nnn) Jordan, the issue with a Luge is that it prefers higher speeds, which in turn require better judgement of speed, line, braking, and a bit of good technique. A buttboard (or 'classic' luge) will be easier to get the finer points dialed in, as you can run at 25 mph and still have fun, but also roll up thru the 60's. A luge won't even be in it's 'comfort zone' until you're above 40... Things to learn well; Braking, both 'skimming', where you keep everything from accellerating, to 'Smoking Shoes' where you're trying not thump into the haybales on the hairpin; Lean steering Vs. Angulated steering; Truck tuning and alignment; Roadway line planning (I always walk UP before riding Down!). Things like drafting, drifting corners, and even just dealing with road surface variables like washboards are also things to note, but will come with some experience and time. Best tip, imho, is know your speed. There's no speedometer, and you're LOW, so persception of your real speed is a tough thing to get the feel of. But it's the crucial thing to know for cornering, coasting/drafting, and board set-up. Knowing the pitch you're on is helpful too, and DMV may not post those gradient signs with as much accuracy as we'd like to think (there's a "12%" grade here in Vermont that's actually around 18%, and has two truck runaway ramps within a mile of each other! Good for 75mph sprints). Ascutney, where ISGA raced this summer, was a 22% grade in spots, about 12% where Auld went off the road. It's about as steep as I like, thank you... ;-) One other bit of wisdom, from a friend I taught many moons ago; Relax while rolloing. Being too tense can actually 'bounce' you off a sled on rougher roads (of course, level-set manhole covers on an incline will do that too!), and can make being able to 'roll' into corners tough as well. If you have worries about your speed early on, simply switch to something smaller wheel wise (Flashbacks are a very dependable, predictable wheel in 78A) until you're ready to roll faster. So, there's no need to use a buttboard first, but I would seriously take HC up on his offer!     Rate post 278523 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) E-mail Sent On 8/15/2007 Jordan Raice wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Sent you one that sounds cool! And a LOT of people have recommended I start buttboard but why? I mean, the only real difference is what the weight or is there more? I have the materials and would like to experiment with luge design and make a killer luge thats fast, comfortable and fun... I dont care if its 40 pounds vs. a buttboards weight, I am up for the challenge... I just havent seen to many reasons for a noob to start buttboard besides cost and size/weight... I dont see a buttboard being any more safe...     Rate post 278498 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Uk Film crew filming in the Us - rider needed On 8/15/2007 Oj wrote in from United Kingdom  (87.74.nnn.nnn) Hi, we are filming in San francisco next week and would love to film an interview with a Luge Person - If you know anyone around that area or who might then please let me know oj.borg@btpodshow.com     Rate post 278455 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) bay area On 8/15/2007 hc wrote in from United States  (71.198.nnn.nnn) Jordan, send me an email. I can give you a basic luge lesson. I think there is only a handful of guys that still luge in the bay area. what I really recommend is for beginners to learn on buttboards I got one you can try out... hc in san jose http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/luge.html     Rate post 278445 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Events On 8/14/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Where in California (I am in the bay area) can I find good beginer luge races or preferably just events with good safe roads and people to help with the learning process? Also any tips on helmets? I have a specialized deviant but hear it sucks for visiblity, whats a good DOT helmet with a built in shield that has good visibility (and price)     Rate post 278379 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Update on Trucks On 8/11/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Done... Finalized my truck choice... Instead of two 57 bears and flipping the back I am getting one 57 and one 45 degree... both with 10mm axles... Speedvents seem to still be the only wheel choice just need to decide on 75a, 79a or some sort of combo... So yeah I have decided on the trucks, just would like some hints on wheel choice, either specific wheels or better yet what to look for (duro, grip, size etc...) Well in the morning I am off to yosemite for a 3 day trip! Hope to have some nice info when I get back...     Rate post 278193 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Wheels and Trucks On 8/11/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Well the crails are "sold"... Just need to pick a new truck for the luge. I have been talked out of conventional trucks, back to reverse kingpin. Obvisouly there is R2s but I am thinking now that bear grizzlys might be awesome. 57 degree baseplate is pretty perfect for luge isnt it! And if I flip the hanger its about 47, so I could flip the back for stabiliy and also for more lean (to insure the wheels dont lift up)... That with some hard khiro barrels or my jimz shaped bushings (if they are hard enough) would be good, no? Just need to pick wheels... Sounds like offset is the way to go to make it wider... Maybe 85mm speedvents and 10mm axles on the trucks to prevent axle bending... Dont know of any other offset wheels in this size range... So 184mm trucks and offset wheels is wide enough for luge right? Seems like many use the randal luge trucks which are 205mm.     Rate post 278169 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) trucks On 8/11/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Ya thats what I am thinking they may not be wide enough... And I have some offset bigzigs but I want new wheels for the luge and 83mm flys seem like the way to go (75a). So I am looking at indy 215's but I just heard they are only 184mm... So are tracker 219's good for recreational luges? I am having some bushings made, hope they may be useful in the luge...? They are jimz bottom shapes (So the tops will also be jimz bottom shapes)... I am having two 84a and two 88a made, ABEC-11 thane. I was thinking either the 88's in back and 84s in front, or 88a bottoms and 84a tops... They are real soft but jimz come in 80-85a which you recommended, these would be a combo of 88 and 84, the higher spectrum of jimz and then some. So yeah if anybody is interested in trades I have red crails with 3" grade 8 kingpins, flat washers, new speedr rings... I also have some used but good condition 80a 81mm bombhills which are very slidable. Last some old swiss bones but Ill clean them... Those will be traded w/ the wheels. Anybody interested? Sounds like in return I'd like tracker 219's and/or 75a 83mm fly's... New or used, just in good condition with straight axles please! So ya I hope the 219's will be stable, mentally it seems like they wont be because I have skated some independt conventional style trucks and got wob's way quicker then with R2's, but with the huge width and stiff bushings I hope it will work out... Plus it will lean less then a R2 or crail, correct? because of the higher hanger angle...     Rate post 278166 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) New Luge On 8/11/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.69.nnn.nnn) Jordan, with your trucks (Crail's are V.Good, BTW), you might want see about a non-center-set wheel, like Speed Vents, to widen the stance. The Flys are great, btw, so, $$-wise, it makes sense to look at other trucks. The Tracker 219 Dart is good, and reasonably stable with the right bushings. Consider a slightly longer kingpin to stuff two Barrel-type bushings on 'em, definately look into Jim'Z bushings, too. One other 'wide' truck I can think of that's predictable is GullWing's superpro. I think they go out to 12" wide with 8mm axles, and are available with 10mm axles, which would need Grizzly 10mm bearings.     Rate post 278162 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) HELP ASAP On 8/11/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Working on trades etc... and wanna know, should I keep and use the 180mm crails or get some other trucks? I am looking at conventional trucks... Specifically the tracker 219, because its the only truck that size. Will that be to wide with say 83mm flywheels or will it work out best?     Rate post 278129 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Trucks and Safety Gear On 8/10/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Oh also the crails have 3" grade 8 kingpins added in so they are nice and strong... I also have flat washers and would probably use some black or purple khiro bushings... Also right now all I have is slide gloves (may get regular gloves dont think I need pucks) and a full face... Its not DOT but its a specialized deviant... Its had some abuse, one face on impact (chin guard) but never hit the top so it should still be a lot of protection... No leathers but I am looking into it, with my riding though (mostly recreational) I was thinking I'd just get one of those nice upper body motor cycle leather jackets, and then wear thick jeans when riding... Also Ill be getting those quik stop luge shoe soles.     Rate post 278106 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Thanks On 8/10/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) So you recommend an even lower angle then the stock randal? Because I have some crail DH trucks (45 degree, randal are 50)... I think they are in pretty good shape, axles might be slightly bent but not enough for your eyes to see... I could save some money by using them to start I just thought they would not be turny enough for luge (because of the extended wheelbase)... What about wheels? I have some bigzigs in 83a... Would be killer to be able to use those, my rockets bearings and my crail DH trucks! Right now the crails dont have a home but the bearings and bigzigs do (my carver) so maybe Ill use the crails and just get new wheels and bearings for my luge... So you guys think the crail DH trucks will be good? Sweet! Oh and how am I limited? Its going to be pegged btw, I want to start with that in the future I may try pegless and with the way its designed the pegs can be removed for pegless riding!     Rate post 278105 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Jordan's first luge On 8/10/2007 Steve wrote in from United States  (69.235.nnn.nnn) Jordan, Randals are very popular. Recommend changing out the kingpin bolt for a Grade 8 bolt. Swap out the bushings for stiffer ones. Flip the hangers to increase stability. Wheel base: My thought is don't go by numbers go by weight distribution. 60% of your weight should be on front trucks and 40% on rear truck. On most people that means the front trucks are between your butt and mid thigh. The rear truck will be as close to your head as possible. Given your design you'll be limited in what you can do. Nothing wrong with it as many people have built good luges with limitations. You want something that is sturdy, safe and handles well. Don't neglect the safety equipment, motorcycle full face helmet, leathers, gloves. The most important equipment is inside your skull. Keep it safe and use it often.     Rate post 278104 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Building a Luge On 8/10/2007 Jordan wrote in from United States  (24.6.nnn.nnn) Hey guys, my dad and I are working on building me a luge... It will be a hybrid wood and aluminum semi rail type... Any tips on building would be nice but I have seen most of the links... Anyways I am now more worried about the setup... What size and type wheels is recommended? Also I am not sure how wide it will be but what type and width trucks should I use? I was thinking bear grizzly because of the higher angle, also randall 180mm R2's and I even see some people using regular trucks (which seem more wobble prone but I assume the wheelbase of a luge helps with that). Also wheelbase... My dad looked at some plans and said he saw some 36" but I was told around 44" and saw one that was 48". Last, the front truck should be around mid thigh right? Like if your sitting up and looking inbetween your legs it should be just up from your crotch area...? Any other tips on riding would be nice... As I cant seem to find Darrens book anywhere. Thanks     Rate post 278102 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Paskapoo Streetluge this Saturday On 8/7/2007 Chickenburger wrote in from Canada  (68.147.nnn.nnn) Paskapoo Downhill Rodeo this Saturday August 11th in Calgary. Streetluge, Speedboard and Dirtsurfer. IGSA points will be awarded. www.paskapoodh.com     Rate post 277847 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) info On 8/5/2007 wendtland wrote in from United States  (65.191.nnn.nnn) does anybody ride in North Carolina?     Rate post 277712 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) MCGF 6 On 8/4/2007 John Fryer wrote in from United States  (71.131.nnn.nnn) Hey Everybody, I posted this over on http://street-luge.com/ but since theres a spot here too, I want to throw it out... I would like to extend my personal thanks to the town of Munnsville and the Legion for all their work- and I do mean work! In my 8 plus years of racing, I’ve never seen a town come out with such an effort for the racers. They really put a TON of effort into the event for OUR benefit and I definitely plan on coming back. I talked to Doug and the other driver (I forget his name-sorry) and they switched to the pickups and trailers in large part because it was too hot in the U-hauls. That’s maybe a small thing (among many efforts) but its one that shows that those folks actually care about us and it’s appreciated. Doug just volunteered that insane pick up truck of his- remember that speed run up with a full load of riders! I asked him if he was worried about king pin scratches and dents and whatever and he said it was just a work truck and it didn’t worry him a bit. Thanks to GSI as well for sure! Tim, Neil, Kim and everyone else….great work and great event! Best, John I don't know what's up with the movie....     Rate post 277643 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) Who wants to ride On 7/25/2007 Fitch wrote in from United States  (66.241.nnn.nnn) I live in Ashland, OR, the first city you come to when you cross the oregon-california border. Right over the pass. Anyway, I am looking for people relatively close to ride with. Shoot me an email eh.     Rate post 276998 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) races On 7/24/2007 Zac wrote in from Australia  (61.68.nnn.nnn) Does anybody know of any amateur races coming up in Australia, NSW or north Vic preferably. I'm still newish to the sport and obsessed with it. Also if anybody could tell me where i could get my hands on one of those wedge helmets i would be sooo grateful, the motorbike helmet i have feels like a parachute on quick sections.     Rate post 276905 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) NorthEast racing On 7/20/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (208.5.nnn.nnn) Bill, check out the race coming up in Upstate N.Y.. GSI, I believe, is running that race. Even if you don't enter, hey, show up, see how it all runs, what the other guys/gals are running, etc. There aren't a lot of sanctioned events on this side of the U.S., but there's a few folk that run hills for fun. GSI is one of the few racer organizations around these parts, and they're in northern N.H..     Rate post 276622 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) where can i enter some races On 7/20/2007 Bill wrote in from United States  (70.235.nnn.nnn) im just getting started out in the sport, i built a board and have messed with it so it rides nice and comfortable to me and im just wondering where i can enter some ammature races and find out a little more information about riding and some tips u know. so if anybody knows of any upcoming races in and around connecticut (U.S) that would be great.     Rate post 276618 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) IGSA World Championships Luge Results On 7/16/2007 Marcus Rietema wrote in from Switzerland  (213.202.nnn.nnn) The IGSA Almabtrieb World Championships Street Luge and Classic Luge races featured some really stiff competition on a tight technical course that tested the skills of each rider to the max. 31 Street Luge and 38 Classic Luge competitors raced in six man heats to determine the 2007 IGSA World Champions. Both races were dominated by an increasingly strong French team. Here are the top 16 finishers in each race as well as the Women's results. Men's Street Luge Results 1. Gauthier DeKyndt FRA 2. Sebastian Tournissac FRA 3. Jonathan Blotter FRA 4. Loic Zaccaro FRA 5. Beni Weber SUI 6. Yvon Labarthe SUI 7. Edgar DeWit NED 8. Caue Lemes BRA 9. Riley Meehan USA 10. Olivier Wagner SUI 11. Tommy Haas GER 12. Joel King GBR 13. Craig Deltour FRA 14. Abdil Mahdzan MAL 15. Marc Dean USA 16. Tom Worsley GBR Women's Street Luge Results 1. Angelina Nobre FRA 2. Helene Schmit FRA Men's Classic Luge Results 1. Jonathan Blotter FRA 2. Sebastian Tournissac FRA 3. Jochen Baumann GER 4. Beni Weber SUI 5. Craig Deltour FRA 6. Michael Serek FRA 7. Gauthier DeKyndt FRA 8. Riley Meehan USA 9. Yvon Labarthe SUI 10. Chris Schutz GER 11. Konstantin Weigl AUT 12. Cedric Burel FRA 13. Jens-O Thor SWE 14. Matthias Lang GER 15. Eugan Forschner GER 16. Loic Zaccaro FRA Women's Classic Luge Results 1. Angelina Nobre FRA 2. Helene Schmit FRA 3. Uta Hang GER     Rate post 276246 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0) RB luge On 7/3/2007 David wrote in from United States  (66.14.nnn.nnn) Shoot me an email     Rate post 275097 ! Best-Of Ncdsa (0)   Informative (0)   Abuse(0)   Flag Moderators (0)

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