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On 8/17/2002
hugh r
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William,
How did you get adobe to show only 9 thumbnails per page? I am using version 5.5 Thanks, HR
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On 8/17/2002
william
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Val, check this URL for MCGF photos:
www.landluge.com/events/MCGF/index.htm
William
www.streetluging.net
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On 8/16/2002
Val
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Hi guys - you all did a great job at M.C.G.F. I'm proud of you all...... Does any of you have any pics. from there posted some where? The weather was great, and the people from Madison County were very nice.
Has anyone heard from Waldo - by the way ??//
Val :)
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On 8/15/2002 Jake
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hey does anyone know what the best truck to use for luging without over-killing my luge?
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On 8/15/2002
Jordan
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I just started street lugeing and need a set up.
I practically everything. If anyone knows where I could get
a good set up e-mail me at jman@fullnet.net
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On 8/15/2002
Chris Chaput
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Kurtis Head has used splitters with success in the past. I'm not sure if he still does. You can use different sized wheels with splitters, but the space between the wheels usually changes as well. You could put on four 80mm wheels or a set of 85mm wheels and a set of 76mm.
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On 8/14/2002 PSR
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David,I stand(sit?)corrected about wheel sizes on Moe Splitter set-ups.As for Lugers on this in racing,well,I do seem to recall a few podium wins from past X-games.Recently,I haven't a clue,as I've been out of anything that even hints of a luge race for awhile.
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On 8/14/2002
Chris Chaput
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The reason to use four wheels up front is to increase the level of traction. The problem with splitters is that they keep the frontmost wheels and the wheels behind them perfectly parallel. That results in the wheels "fighting" one another in a turn because the frontmost wheels need to turn sharper than the wheels behind them. Having dual trucks helps to to solve that problem by allowing the axles to turn independently of one another. We put a small washer under the front cushions to slightly change the truck's geometry so that it turns sharper given the same amount of lean.
The problem with duals is that it's difficult to get all of the wheels to contact the ground evenly because the board flexes and raises the front wheels off of the ground unless you use riser pads to counter it.
I solved that issue by using a dual truck setup that pivots to keep all four wheels evenly balanced in contact with the ground. The pivot angles are also slightly different. I used it at the DHX and in Madison County. The wheels scrub uniformly.
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On 8/14/2002
David Fielden
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Actually I think the Moe splitters allow you to have different sized wheels in front or back, since the splitter rotates on the origional axle, it can level itself out. Although I have not used the Moe splitter, and have seen people use splitters before and they seemed very unstable. Not to mention that the splitters increase the space between the wheels without increasing the length of the origional axle. This increases the leverage of force pushing up on the axle, increasing the chance to bend the axle. Using two front trucks will give you two axles (twice the strength) and greatly increases the stablility, But is somewhat more expensive. But I have not ever seen a racer at a race with splitters...? I wonder what the reason is behind that?
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On 8/14/2002 PSR
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Tyler,it's my opinion that two trucks do only one thing better(if set-up correctly)than the Moe system;They may help ward off wobbles by way of differing tension in the bushings of the trucks.Otherwise,the Moe Traction Split does what it's supposed to do;put more wheel contact to the tar.Both ways will do that,but the Moe is easier to set-up;Just be sure your wheels/bearings are the same for all four axles and you're all set.
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On 8/13/2002 Tyler
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I have a question bout my Z-Roller trucks. I was looking at landluge.com and I came across Moe Speed Traction Spliters. It said it could split my Z-Roller's axle into two axles. Then I could get two more wheels to use on the second axle. I saw pictures from street luge races in a newspaper and a saw they have two trucks in the front of the luge. Would the trucks with the traction spliters work just as well as two trucks?
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On 8/13/2002
Steve Pearl
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Awesome Video @ FunDay by www.WeFilmU.com
Guys & Gals:
The address below will take you to totally awesome videos by WeFilmU.com.
They mounted their self contained video equipment on Erek Shaffer and Jeff Schonzeit. The sound is something else!
WeFilmU.com sells this gear and if I'm not mistaken rents it also.
http://www.wefilmu.com/Default.asp?navtop=Home&navleft=SampleVideos (videos 3, 4 & 5 - put cursor on thumb for description
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On 8/13/2002
Stuart
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Does anyone know where I can buy a street luge E-mail me at SP_Frazier@Hotmail.com
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On 8/12/2002
Chris Chaput
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Very fast course. Beautiful weather. Tactical drafting style racing. 74mph speeds in luge.
Some of the results:
Pro Streetluge:
1. Dave Rogers
2. Pat Moody (first pro podium)
3. Brent DeKeyser
4. Mike McIntyre
5. Scott Holsenback
Am Streetluge:
1. Chris Stanko
2. Andy Lally
3. Chris Chaput
4. Rian James
Sherlock and Lally were the top qualifiers. One of the coolest and most fun races that I've been to in a long time. Special thanks to Beagle, Biker, Grace, Downhill Dave and the thousands of people who lined the course with tents, picnics, partys, cheers, smiles and sharpies.
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On 8/9/2002 andy
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You may need this!
www.alienXworld.com
click on the small logo in the center.
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On 8/9/2002 Andy
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PS. Not for any other reason than your own possible enjoyment, you can check out the first video clip on my new website if you like.
I got roped into sharing a site with some people I know, and the only thing really on it is this video (I think we already have creative differences!). Anyway, it's a 1.6 MB clip of a nice residential s-curve near my house.
PPS. It is pre-safety gear video, so don't give me too hard of a time. I have a helmet and full leathers now (thanks Hugh R for the tip on sizing a while back).
Andy
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On 8/9/2002 Andy
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Thanks. That seems pretty clear. Does anyone actually feel a reduction in speed while turning, due to the parallel front axles, or is the effect insignificant?
Just curious. I hope to begin building my first luge any time now. Just have to sit down and get all the measurements figured out. I'm not too worried about the truck configuration yet. But i've seen a lot of dual truck set-ups.
Andy
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On 8/9/2002 PSR
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Andy,what's usually going on is that the rider is pushing his/her front wheels past the limits of traction.So,more wheels = more grip.Moe Racing has a sweet axle kit that puts a two-axle spindle on your regular trucks,a neat and less complicated way of putting more tire to the road.I started running dual front truck setups way back because some of my boards flexed too much((this is back when we'd cut up long planks of hardwood and tack carpet on them for seats--awhile ago))to be stable at speed,so dual front trucks helped keep The Wobs at bay.It also came in handy if you melted your wheels((If I'd had any clue what Red/Blue 70mm 2nd series Kryptonics would E-Bay for,I would've thought twice about pushing them so hard))on one axle,as you could limp it to a stop,instead of just grinding to a stop on an axle.My now-ancient pegless wood luge still runs dual front trucks,and is good for speeds in the low-mid 60's,this with an overall length of less than 48",and an outside wheelbase of of 45". By comparison,my steel-framed sled is a bit under 6 ft long,uses two trucks only,and has a wheelbase of 51",but it's stable and sticks in turns just fine.I really don't need dual trucks on it for stability,and don't weigh enough to feel that the wheels are exceeding their grip.With guys like Lugenstein,it's a different story,and six((or 8)) wheels are needed to keep them between the hay bales.
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On 8/8/2002
Andy
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So why do people use two front trucks??
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On 8/8/2002 longboardbuddha
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thanks dave much appreciated....
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On 8/8/2002
Steve Pearl
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Dinosaur Point Scheduling Changes
Guys & Gals:
Please note that the following scheduling changes have been made for training & riding @ Dinosaur Point:
No Riding or Training: 8/17, 8/18, 9/7 or 9/8
New Riding/Train1ng Dates Added: 9/14 & 9/15
New schedules will be sent out.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Steve
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On 8/8/2002
David Fielden
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It depends on what wheels size you are using. You dont want your wheels to close together because they can rub each other in turns, or even lock up in a turn. But you want the axles as close as possible because the further apart they are the more they work against each other. I like to have about 1/4" clearance between wheels.
So i guess the secret voodoo measurement is
(wheel dia) + .250 = axle distance
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On 8/8/2002
longboardbuddha
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i'm at the stage now where i am about to mount the dual front trucks but whats preferred axle to axle distance on the front trucks...as close as you can get or some secret voodoo measurement...
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On 8/5/2002
Chris Chaput
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If you're just starting out, on a budget and have access to some tools and parts:
1. Get 3 Randal R-II 180mm trucks (dual front).
2. Replace the kingpins with longer grade 8 bolts.
3. Replace the cushions with black rubber cylindrical ones found in the Downhill trucks.
If you can, replace the axles with stronger ones right away or as soon as you bend them.
These work great and are cheap!
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On 8/5/2002
ankan
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Hi there guys,
I am drawing the plans for my first luge, and has come to the trucks part, and I am stuck. Hope you guys can help me out, since there's no other lugers in sweden (that I know of, anyway).
First thing is, should I have one or two front trucks, I am a heavy beast, 90+kilos, which, as I see it, implies double front trucks. If that's what I need, how much different should the kingpin angle be on the front truks? And also, how big should the height-difference be? Is the height-difference in the front-trucks depending on the flex in the luge, or how does the rear front truck manage to grip the surface when mounted above the front front truck.
Randalls or z-rollers? Since I am totally new to this whole luge thing, I don't have a clue as to which trucks to use. Being a student and all that I would much rather prefere the z-rollers, but it seems like most people uses randalls. And, if randalls is the ones, what angle do you recommend? I am planning to build a rather short and turny luge, but I would like to be able to reach max speed in all courses without the wobble.
Thanks for your help, and a wicked foum!
cheers, anders österling
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