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inline axel
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On 9/27/2000 roger
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Herb,
Sounds like the axels that many/most inline wheels use.
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ABS anti lock bearing system
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On 9/27/2000 Herbn
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Just got the new cataloge from Alien Workshop,not long board but they do "make" Reflex bearings,they have a new thing, it involves bearings with a larger hole in the middle (i.d.)but the same outside. A spacer kit that both spaces and sleeves the bearings onto regular axles.In case you havn't been paying attention i did this about six monthes ago maybe longer,it works fine,their system will be ABEC5 and looks well made,and naturally will be oiled bearings(mine were greased)so they'll be fast right away.Oh to have a backer with major financing.
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608 bearings
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On 9/27/2000
hugh r
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I don't think you will be able to find any structural or strength differences between a bearing marketed as inline and one marketed as skateboard.
None of these types of bearings were originally mfg'd for either of these app's...
The only differences you may find will be in sheild configuration and ID (for axel size) Other than that they are the same.
Although if you research the 600 - 6000 series of bearings you will find that there are a bunch of configurations that are possible. Flanges etc... lots of sheild choices... but all the 608's are basically the same. The tighter the tolerances... the higher the cost.
HR
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NTN
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On 9/27/2000
k2000
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kent,
thanks but no thanks
if i'm gonna spend that kind of money on bearings it's gonna go to a skateBOARD company (powell)
- and yes i understand that they are priced for 16 bearings
k
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NTN
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On 9/25/2000
roger
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Kent,
Does inline racing place any sideways forces on bearings?
Even when not sliding (massive sideways forces) bearings in skate wheels still experience much different forces than inline wheels.
What other bearings have you tried? Why exactly do consider nothing else close to NTN?
Do they last for years and years, are they quiet, are they easy to maintain, and of course are they fast!
Please provide specifics of why you like NTN and consider nothing else close to them.
Roger
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NTN
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On 9/25/2000
kent
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Hey guys...
Just some 2 cents from an inline skate racer about bearings.
I'm new to the long board thing, but for 608 bearins, nothing
comes remotely close to the new NTN Pro Race bearing. Made
for inline racers, but could certainly be used by you guys.
I used Ninja Mini Misers in the past, but the NTN blow them
away.
www.ntnskate.com
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joke?
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On 9/20/2000
hugh r
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Doobie,
Me too... HR
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Precision wood bearings
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On 9/20/2000 DOOBIE
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Hugh...I was just joking about the bearings...
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woody's
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On 9/20/2000
hugh r
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Doobie,
Actually... if your going to use wood, then they would most likely be called bushings... you would probably be better off using wax instead of any type of grease/oil... HR
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Wood bearings...
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On 9/19/2000
DOOBIE
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I tried to lube these...bad idea... my S9 70mm's are now gum... might be good for 4th of july....:)
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German vs. Swiss
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On 9/19/2000
Kaylee
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I just switched from double rubber shielded GMN's to Bones Swiss in my slalom/race board and I noticed a slight difference. Seems to me that the GMN's were a bit smoother and quieter, but that the Swiss spin free-er and therefore roll a bit farther. Just a bit, though. What's your opinion?
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germans
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On 9/18/2000 shnitzel
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from what i've learned in bearing past is a set of germans, although not the fastest bearing on the market, will roll service free for about a year in my street luge nicely! they're cheap and after their service they get thrown onto my street skate for a second life. the grease is a little slower but it lasts forever.
however! i recently aquired a set of swiss bearings! i'll post you on the comparison.
shnitzel.
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wood bearings
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On 9/18/2000 clayton
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wood bearings, anyone?
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NMB
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On 9/17/2000 DOOBIE
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I think it stands for Not My Bearings... just kidding... i had a set a while back... in like 1995 when I fruit booted on my driveway... I was such a loser... but I am now superfly with my swiss bones...
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NMB's
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On 9/17/2000 tony
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Mine have "singapore" stamped on the shields.
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NMBs
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On 9/17/2000
Ryan M
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yeah! let's hear it for NMBs! I bought the set I have now at Go Skate in santa cruz for $8 in 1987, and they still run fine! The side shields are all dented in, they're noisy as hell even after tri-lube, but they're still just as fast as the day I bought them. If only more bearings were like that...
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more on NMB
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On 9/16/2000
hugh r
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I looked around a little on the web about the NMB company... although they are headquarted in Chatsworth, CA ... they are tied to a large Japanesse company. This company seems to have production of their products done in other Asian countries.
So I would venture a guess that any new NMB's are not the same as ones that were available many years ago. They may indeed be fine bearings, but I have no experience with them... HR
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NMB
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On 9/16/2000
hugh r
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Hey Roox,
I checked out the site and I too find the price difference a litte interesting. I can think of a few reasons that this might be caused by.
He may have gotten a better deal on a quanity of old stock nmb's.
The nmb's may no longer be made in Germany.
As far as types of nmb's... the only ones I ever saw were the double sheilded type (non-removable) I believe that most, if not all of the old day bearings were actually machinery bearings. So the chances of them also being in single or double removable configuration is high. I just never saw any at the skate shops in my area.
Hopefully if some has a contact at old school skates, we can find out if these are original made in Germany bearings. If they are, and they are in like new condition, I don't think that you will be dissapointed in their smooth and quite ride. Real long spin times too. (although this is really not a true indicator of how fast a bearing will be under load. It is however really cool to watch your wheel spin silently for 60 seconds)
If they are the same as my 25 year old ones I still use... I will be placing an order very soon... HR
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Germans
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On 9/16/2000 RooX
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hey all... heres a question for someone like hugh to answer.. if i remember correctly NMB bearings are the cats meow over GMN bearings right? so why do yousuppose the GMN bearings are more expensive that the NMB bearings on oldschoolskates.com? And were there various types of NMB bearings? I onlyt thought there was one but i could be horribly wrong.
Cheers all
Colin
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Abec: Doobie
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On 9/16/2000 Ant
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In reply of dobbies response:
Thats coooool :>
Ant
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ABEC
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On 9/15/2000 DOOBIE
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I have bones swiss and someone said they aren't as good as ABEC bearings... I think that is a bunch of BS... so what is the abec rating, or are they better than ABEC?
DOOBIE
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Abec Search
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On 9/15/2000
Chris Chaput
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Use your search engine and look for words like : abec ratings faq tolerance bearings. I got this from http://www.landfield.com/faqs/sports/skating/inline-faq/part12/
Bearing Ratings
Bearings are rated on the ABEC ("Annular Bearing Engineering Council", "annular" means circular) scale. The higher the ABEC number, the greater the manufactured bearing precision. There are no required materials to meet the ABEC specifications. The bearings simply have to be made to a certain precision. You may find cheaper skates with bearings not even rated on the ABEC scale (primarily on "toy" in-lines and real low-end/kids skates). These will often be labeled as semi-precision bearings. In non-skating applications (like in industrial machinery) using higher ABEC-rated bearings lets machines meet particular mechanical tolerance or vibration levels, so they can operate at a high speed. This is not because there is less rolling resistance, but rather because the precision is better. Whether ABEC-5 bearings will let you skate faster than ABEC-1 bearings is still largely debatable. The higher precision may not make a significant difference when you're at 10-20mph. Compare that with typical machinery that may run at 10,000 rpm (~80 mph), where the smallest change in precision can make a difference. Also, the higher precision will eventually deteriorate down to ABEC-3 or 1 due to dust, dirt and regular wear and tear. Cutting down wind-resistance and improving your technique is probably much more effective at increasing your skating speed. However, all this is not to say that there is no reason to buy ABEC-3 or ABEC-5 bearings. Most ABEC-3 and 5 rated bearings are serviceable, while ABEC-1's typically are not. So although you may not be buying more speed, you will be getting more convenience in maintanence.
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Abec
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On 9/15/2000 Herbn
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Sorry Doobie all that stuff about cleaning,and drying and so little about lube,oh well spaced for a sec.Abec rating, when my dad worked on film cameras,expensive movie cameras,Abec rating was very important because its mostly a sound rating,which may seem kind of indirect,but it should work,closer tolerances not necessarily tighter that could make thing seize but closer tolerances like better polishing,rounder balls,rounder races.A machine that makes bearing parts might be adjusted in the morning and make Abec 7 parts til 10am, Abec 5 til noon,ect, ect.Heres how they could finagle,a bearing with a plastic retainer would be quieter take Abec 3 parts change to a plastic retainer ,instant Abec 5.I could see contact seals muffling noise also,I've heard at Abec7 they reduce the race contact patch against the balls,this makes the bearing weaker but also very quiet,and depending on loads, questions arise if they're faster. So Abec7 might be faster than 5's for me at 155 lbs but not for Hugh at 200+,or maybe you gotta weigh 120 for them to make a difference,a lot of unknowns.Sometimes the more information you have the less you know (certainty is the word here)
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Dry bearings again...
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On 9/15/2000 DOOBIE
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Herbn... if you payed attention, I said at the beginning of the post to do the steps then add lube... I wasn't trying to start the dry lube debate again with you guys... I actually am gonna use some speed cream on my bones swiss.... sorry about the confusion...
DOOBIE
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ABEC coda
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On 9/14/2000 GBJ
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In other words..., ABEC ratings are nothing but irrelevent, marketing hype.
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