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correction
On 4/2/2003 doug wrote in from (209.150.nnn.nnn)

sorry sonny, thats 54"

 
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long longboards for sonny
On 4/2/2003 doug wrote in from (209.150.nnn.nnn)

Sonny, Id look at the 52" soulcarver ( www.solidskate.com )
its cheap and nice looking. Hugh R. liked it.

 
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Traveling through Encinitas/Oceanside
On 4/2/2003 Speedy wrote in from (169.237.nnn.nnn)

Jason- those are my old stomping grounds from when I was a grom. I'm up in Davis now (It's about twenty minutes out of Sacramento), so if you come up this far, and it's nice, I'll show you the sweet spots in Davis and on the UCD campus. Skate long!

-Speedy

 
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Traveling trough Encinitas / oceanside
On 4/2/2003 jason wrote in from (170.213.nnn.nnn)

JAson here,
I'm traveling the West Coast, cruising the streets, looking for sweet spots to skate, and chill folks to kick back and cruise with. Longboarders, shortboarders... whatever.
Presently around Cardiff by the sea, Encinitas area, but will be traveling all around Cali, and through Arizona.
Skating solo's fun an all, but it'd be nice to meet people to show me around and stuff.
I'm 26 and from Canada.

 
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the site
On 4/2/2003 lazyboy wrote in from (130.240.nnn.nnn)

http://www.surfacemotion.com/

 
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"Bigger" longboards for surf training
On 3/28/2003 Sonny wrote in from (139.177.nnn.nnn)

I would like some advice about which longer board and setup to get for side walk surfing. Is it helpful to have a kicktail? I also heard about a website that has some instructional info about sufing technique on longboards but I can't find the site. Please advise. Thanks.

 
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Emily
On 3/27/2003 MissouriMatt wrote in from (128.206.nnn.nnn)

I had my 9 year old daughter at the skate park last weekend. She was lieing down on the 58" deck and riding down "the mountain". At the bottom of the 10 to 12 ft. high bank, she'd pop up and walk to the nose and back. She's got a kick flip deck, but she doen't really ride it. She used to like my 37" Freeride, but now she just wants to ride the 58". Torsion Trucks, 92 Fly Wheels, and Bones Super 6. She knows smooth, and ever since Blue Crush came out, skating is just a chance to play surfer chic. Its fun to watch her pop up and then bend down to grap the rail and crank that imaginary bottom turn. I've got to get her to the beach soon.

 
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Surfing Nor-Cals foot hills
On 3/13/2003 Justin wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Ok, im 15 and live in a little town called Alamo, with some of the best hills i have ever carved. that is also because i live here. In the summer me and some of my friends do regular stuff like tormenting golfers, swimming and "longboard" it is probably the best skateing type there is. i suggest that is you are in the area to come and find Roundhill, that is where all the hills are(it says it in the name) there are hills for everyone. From strats all the way to natural pools. If you goto Roundhill north there is a abanddoned swuer pipe that is huge to just carve you ass off there so just a kids point of veiw. i have tryed the indo/balance boards... i made one and they are sick so keep surfing the sidewalk and carve hard. so party on justin

 
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sidewalks and curbs
On 3/12/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

sidewalks often border streets. streets are often several inches lower than the edge of sidewalks. transitions between sidewalks and streets are a no-brainer if you're going down, or if you've got a really consistent, +12" ollie. those of us not kick-flipping on the other hand, may have a more difficult time negotiating the street-to-sidewalk transition. lappers were rather popular some time ago. anyone using them these days?

 
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wave-riding
On 3/11/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

atta kid robc,
glad you had a goot time bro. now, i've only surfed the washington side of the strait of juan de fuca, never on vancouver island, but there are some really nice spots in that general area. save up your money for a wetsuit and booties, possibly a hood if you want to surf in the winter. in the mean time, ride the wild sidewalk.
brian

 
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surfing in hawaii
On 3/9/2003 robc wrote in from (64.231.nnn.nnn)

>haven't heard from robc since the hawaii trip; d'ya have >anything you'd like to share with the class? any good >
>surfing, sidewalk or otherwise while you were away?

Just got back today- it was great. Took a lesson with a guy in hanelei; the bay there is nice for beginners and there's a big break farther out where you can watch the real thing. Actully stood up on the very first wave- pushed out by the instructor rather than actully caught, but still! Talk about not being able to wipe the sh-- eating grin off!
Kept all the advice in mind- right down the the bananas! The part about yanking on the leash as soon as you fall is key, especially in such a crowded place. The big foam boards are fun- and don't hurt too much when you get nailed on the head with it. I also rented a 9foot Softtop which was lighter than the the 10 foot Doyle and a bit harder to ride. The only pices of advice I'd add are: don't wear a watch unless you *know* the strap won't let go, and wearing a shirt or rash guard is a good thing to do. Thanks agin for the good advice , Brian- it did make a difference, and now I'm totally hooked. Fortunately, my mom and sister live on Vancouver Island, I think I owe them a visit...


 
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indo
On 3/9/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

vaitus,
i built my deck out of a half-finished skate deck project i found lying around. to try out the concept i just flopped the flat deck (it was about 36" long by 10" or so wide) on a four inch diameter propane canister and rolled around the kitchen for a while. my wife was not pleased, what with the "you're a moron...what if that explodes...you better put that stupid thing away" comments and the like.

i figured i could find a chunk of 6" pvc someplace so i cut the deck down to 30 1/2" and screwed 1 1/2" stoppers at the nose and tail. it took a couple of days of waiting for the weekend to end but i located a big chunk of pipe for nine bucks. i hacked it into two reasonably squared up lengths of 20" so i'd have a back up roller or maybe one to give as part of another set-up to a deserving friend. the pipe works really well, very little flex--that means fast on a smooth surface.

i've just laid out another deck, 17" wide with a nice round nose and short, tapered, square tail. i think i'll finish this one nice and let my wife try her hand at some surf/skate art for the top. i'll put some rubber strips of some sort on the bottom of the new deck for better traction between deck and roller and that will allow me to leave the roller bare so it can be easily slid and turned on a smooth floor.

these things are no substitute for skating or surfing but they do in a pinch.

brian

 
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balance boards
On 3/8/2003 vaitus wrote in from (216.166.nnn.nnn)

Brian, I built one too.

After practicing on a friend's indo board, I decided I wanted the pro model, the bigger one. Being so expensive to buy I built one, the hardest part was finding the 8.5 inches roller. The ideal was to use a pvc pipe, but I couldn't find one that big anywhere so I ended up using a 8 inches corrugated pipe, regular plastic, $12 for 10 feet from an agri supply store. It's not as stiff as pvc and there's a tiny flex, but it's ok for my 145 pounds.
Then I made the board, 42" X 14 1/2" as in the pro indo board, and another one with the leftover wood, about 50" X 9", this one turned out to be the most fun, it's longer so I can cross step better and it can be turned.
total cost about $40.

After sometimes cross stepping with the board perpendicular to the roller becomes easy so now I'm turning it to an angle, it's a whole different story! much harder to do and more similar to surfing.

I'd like to hear how you built yours.


 
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mexico better than hawaii
On 3/8/2003 john airey wrote in from (63.198.nnn.nnn)


just a word of advice to skaters wanting to try surfing,
consider mexico before you go to hawaii or worse,
california.

I learnt to skate as a young kid in maryland. also swam
on a swim team.

never thought I'd get a chance to surf, but I did and
I have surfed the SF penninsula obsessively for the last
13 years, year round, often several times a week. I would
not even travel to see my family because I might miss
a swell... christmas is often the best season here...

I have traveled to mexico, both driving and flying and to
hawaii to surf.

personally, mexico is more fun, closer, and cheaper.
you can get waves bigger than you want to surf on a regular
basis there just like hawaii.

I have met a lot of texans in mainland mexico so it's
not exactly a big secret, but you don't have to go to
crowded hawaii or crowded california.

also, surfers hate people. skaters like people. watch
out for that whole thing. most dangerous thing in the
water is usually another surfer.
don't drop in on anybody or snake them, ever.

when I first started
skating again I was prepared to deal with skaters that
acted like surfers, but everybody was nice, that
was strange.

 
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indo/balance board
On 3/8/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

indo boards are actually pretty fun. after the talk (vaitus and lbk) about them last week here, i built one. vaitus, i'm not sure about popping up on it while it's balanced. maybe if you had one long and wide enough you could at least lean the board so the nose is on the floor and then try to pop up directly to a balanced position.

as far as surfing/skating practice, if you can cross-step to the nose of your balance board and then back, you can do it on a skateboard. cross-stepping to the nose while longboard surfing is obviously more complicated as it involves careful and constant rail-pressure (like during a carve while skateboarding) but also the primary reason for board-walking is to maintain trim and that involves the shifting of weight from tail to nose and vice versa (here it's pretty clear that the indo board style balance board will be really helpful).

i've spent time everday this last week on my new balance board and its enough to work up a sweat in about five minutes, depending on how hard i want to work. if you've got an indo board, get that thing out so you can see it and get on it when it's raining or whenever skating is out of the question. if you're thinking about getting one, consider building it yourself or having somebody help you because they can be had for a good deal less than what the tailor made factory jobs are retailing.

haven't heard from robc since the hawaii trip; d'ya have anything you'd like to share with the class? any good surfing, sidewalk or otherwise while you were away?

brian

 
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pop up on Indo Board
On 2/28/2003 lbk wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

Pop ups on an Indo Board? That must be hard to do,. Indo Board is a cool way of "Surfing" indoors, not to mention the workout you get.

 
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rhino-chasers
On 2/25/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

thanks all for the input. i'll let ya know what works out.

 
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Board width
On 2/25/2003 Goose wrote in from (161.76.nnn.nnn)

Brian,

Yeah, the 10.5-11.5" range is as far as I go on a beast. My big guns about 10" and to be honest thats good enough.

smooth tarmac and slick bearings too ya.

 
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pop ups
On 2/25/2003 vaitus wrote in from (152.9.nnn.nnn)

anybody tried popping up on the indo board?

 
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Jaime's Paddle Ins
On 2/24/2003 lbk wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

Jaime would just ride on his stomach. Though I think he has plowed into his face a few times doing it.

 
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ECREW's jaime strapula
On 2/24/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

does he pop up as he drops in? i would have to see that to believe it.

 
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Surf Paddle Ins
On 2/22/2003 lbk wrote in from (64.75.nnn.nnn)

ECREW's Jaime Strapula does the best paddle ins on a skateboard. He rides a regular length board that is a bit wider than most. Jaime prones out on his board on the top of the bowl or pool. He then paddles/rolls in over the coping on his stomach. It is crazy to see him do it.

 
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career choices
On 2/22/2003 66 wrote in from (68.117.nnn.nnn)

landscape architecture

i [heart] skateboarding

 
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Popping up
On 2/22/2003 John Y. wrote in from (209.178.nnn.nnn)

I've tried popping up on a skateboard, and it's nothing like popping up on a surfboard. On a surfboard you mostly have to worry about your ballance front to back. On a skate, the ballance problem is side to side. If your knee or foot touches the water when popping up on a surfboard, it's no biggie, but you really have to pay a lot of attention to keeping your legs off the ground on a skate. Your hands are farther apart on a surfboard, so your front leg can swing between your arms. Even on a really wide skateboard, your arms are much closer together and makes it more difficult.

If you fall while popping up on a skate, the consequences are much worse than falling off a surfboard. The whole point of practice is to get good at something so that when you actually try it, you have less risk of suffering the consequences. You wouldn't practice hand-brake turns in a car right at the edge of a cliff.

 
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big wood
On 2/21/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

thanks goose,
i've got all the tools, and i got a nice wood--i mean a nice plank picked out in black walnut--but i guess i'm trying to decide on a good width that is easy to pop up from (my surfboards are at least twice as wide as my skateboards) but won't be terribly awkward to push. i was thinking between 11" and 12" but then g mark says his 10.5" boards work fine. any thoughts?

 
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