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wnat the surf/snow sensation?
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On 10/17/2003 Tyson
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A friend a i have designed a truck adaption which add vertical movement as well as heel - toe movement for full simulation of surf or snow..to be adapted to any longboard..we have a patent on it and now trying to bring it in to commercialisation...we love it and would imagine you guys would too..you can check it out at http://homepage.mac.com/tysonlundbech/swerve/ cheers.
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surf sensations
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On 10/3/2003 vaitus
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the best surf simulator trucks/wheels/bearings combo so far for me:
wide exkates with black bushings, white avalons, biltins:
unbelievable surf sensations!
I've been riding all kinds of randals, trackers, kryptos and flashbacks but nothing beats this setup as far as simulating surfing (the board is 54 inches long, 11 ply birchwood)
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chief's surf simulator
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On 10/1/2003
brian
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chief
your randals will work great. if i was you i'd ride them until you get a chance to try enough other set-ups to see if you'd like something else better. for surfy turning, i like my bakus, but they are a much rougher ride than a traditional two bushing truck. for bombing i like my rii 180's. i've got pivots on my sliding board and trackers on the slalom rig. i like 'em all. they all do the same thing: turn. that's the cool thing about trucks. have fun.
brian
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Dreggs L1 Surf longboard
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On 9/18/2003
Chief Stooly
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Could anyone advise me in what trucks to buy for this board. Anybody got one that could comment on it? I currently have some Randall 2 180s. Can I use this. Also wheel recommendations would be nice. I love to surf and want the nearest feel as possible, but with the added kicktail to use in parks. How is this board in parks and copings, steep transitions even.
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colorado ski/ snowboarding season
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On 9/16/2003 david eye
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St. Mary's glacier is being ridden as we speak, open all year; trace- 0" new, no lifts running (back-country!)
scheduled openings;
Loveland Basin; opens Oct. 16 typically the first open in U. S. every year.
A-Basin (the Legend!) Oct. 18
Breck, Vail, The 'boat, etc; mid Nov
Cameron Pass backcountry; typically the week before Halloween.
roll with soul, ride the glide
DE
Fort Collins CO USA
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Snowboard
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On 9/3/2003 plowboy
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?? Colorado opens???
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snowboard season
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On 8/25/2003
radishlion
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I'm a huge longboarder, but even more of a snowboarder. When does snowboard season open in colorado? Kind of off topic, I know.
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surf
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On 8/15/2003
cody
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that is great info everybody. ibk i have already a couple gravity videos and i always watch surf on the tube and i try to mimic them on the asphalt. i already do alot of what you all said on how surfing is on a longboard and im stoked that i actually am pretty close to surfing (on a longsk8board). im also glad snowboarding is like surfing also cause i live in colorado and i LOVE snowboard alot and cain wait for the season to open. thanks again to everyone who responded i didnt think that many people would. just a question tho, dont any of you have anything better to do than sit on the computer??? just messin thanks
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surf
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On 8/15/2003
cody
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WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!! !!! THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO RESPONDED.
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surf
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On 8/15/2003
brian
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powder is much fun (ice is not so much). for skating think long wheelbase, long kingpins, soft bushings and soft wheels. torsion-style trucks give a very surfy amount of lean but you feel the asphalt more so go for a slightly flexier deck or softer wheels or rubber risers or all three.
i love to surf: these days i only do it a few times a year. i love to skate: i can do it anywhere. having a family is cool--choices must be made based on new and evolving priorities. the ocean lost out for now, but i ride waves everyday.
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i want to add me in ur clab
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On 8/15/2003
arif hussain
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i want to do skate boarding
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Surf Cody
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On 8/13/2003 lbk
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I got to agree with Brian. Surfing is much broader when compared to skateboarding. But if you are like many that visit this site, longboard skateboarding is what you do when you don't have waves available.
When I also moved inland, I knew my surfing days would be far and few between. Guess that is what happens when family and career life take precedence. So anyway to my luck, longboard skateboarding started to take off. It sure isn't surfing but I can feel it while longboard skateboarding.
Cody, if you live up northward, then snowboarding is even more like surfing than longboard skateboarding. Hit some deep powder and you will get the same rush that surfing provides. For more info on snowboarding, check out ncdsa's sister page www.freecarve.com. We will be posting up soon on the "Freeride" forum. Already the 2003/2004 snowboard catalogs are out and the Washington DC area snowboard demo sale is in two weeks.
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cody's surf dreams
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On 8/12/2003
brian
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cody
lbk is right that longboard skateboards can feel much more like surfing than shorties. however, if you're a skater now and are thinking that you'd like to cross-over to surfing, you may be in for a bit of a surprise. i surfed first and when i moved inland i needed something to scratch my itch for waves. riding a longboard can do that for you but there is so much more to surfing than what you can mimic on a skateboard. as a beginner, you can think of surfing as spending 95 to 99 percent of your time walking (more like running on your hands) back up the hill, and every time you fall you're at the bottom again. skating is a much more one-dimensional exchange as well--your energy interacting with gravity and an immovable surface--while in surfing gravity plays a smaller role and the wave is an independent energy source which the surfer is constantly anticipating, absorbing and opposing. the difference between a good session and a bad one can depend on as little as one wave--a race for the peak, the drop, and a couple of turns. to me surfing involves much more of an investment of mind and body and likewise offers a greater reward. it is worth it. when you get the chance, head for the coast, rent a board, and try it for yourself. in the meantime, surf that skate.
brian
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Cody: Surf
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On 8/12/2003 lbk
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Cody,
Longboard skateboarding is very similar to surfing. For example; if you ever get to see a young agro teenager surfer ride a long board skateboard, you will notice that when he kick turns the board, he whips the board just like he was on a surfboard banging a turn off the lip. Or if an old school surfer/skateboarder rides a longboard skateboard, he will mimics surf maneuvers such as bottom turns, drop knee turns, walking the board, etc.
Longboard skateboarding feels much more like surfing than regular street skateboarding does. But you have to remember, it is all in your mind to get that surf feeling on a longboard skateboard.
To get the images in your head of how to sidewalk skateboard, pickup a longboard surf mag, rent a classic longboard movie such as Bruce Browns Endless Summer (original or sequel), then pick up a longboard video from a company like Gravity Skateboards. Lastly get a longboard (42 inches long with ABEC11 soft wheels and loose trucks) and surf it.
DR
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On 8/10/2003
cody
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i have never surfed before but have always wanted to but i was wondering if it is real similar to longboarding or what all is alike and not. if anyone knows let me hear from ya. peace and love
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Berts
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On 8/7/2003 Espie
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Check out Bob's trick tips: www.bobstricktips.com. If you make it to Dogtown, let us know where the bank ridin' is. :)
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Nail a Bert
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On 8/6/2003 johnnyboy
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Hey guys, whats up, I am a skater from the u.k who still dreams of packing my bags and moving to dogtown, problem is , my bertlemann slides suk ass!! I can do them going toeside, with both hands, but end up on my ass going heelside Help!! any websites or advice appreciated
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Longboard Flatland Freestyle Contest!
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On 7/22/2003
steelwheel Bob
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Thats right longboad fans! The WFSA will have a Longboard Flatland Freestyle Contest at the ASR show in San Diego in Sept...interested in entering, judging, announcing ? Get into the ASR show for free for your efforts
Check this out:
No Cal Flatland Jam series regulars bring home the Casper Classic U.S. Championship gold!
Manual "the Man" Rodriguez, the pride of Napa, is your new ( like when the hell was the last one?) United States Flatland Freestyle Skateboard Champion in the un sponsored Am Division. He won with those long controlled space walks and a few great combinations.
Hanging in there at 4th place (in the same division as Manual), the day after his 60th birthday, is steelwheel Bob. Hey! at least I didn't come in last!
Nils "Da Frog" Hanson also captures a first place win to become the United States Flatland Freestyle Skateboard Champion in the unsponsored Am 13-15 division. Nils skated unopposed but would have been a threat to anyone in his age group with tricks like a Primo slide, a 50/50 540 flip, and rail to rail flips. Nils had the longest Primo slide of any contestant Am or Pro, and he pulls it up one footed occasionally. He will probably be the man to beat next year in his division at the US Championships, but you can take a shot at him in San Diego at the WFSA California State Flatland Freestyle Championships this Sept.
Nils also finished 3rd in the High Jump Open behind a few adult pros. Nils will be bringing the high jump bar to Rengsdorff Park next month.
A little Staton family trivia: We are now the first and only three generation freestyle skateboard champions in skateboarding history.
Robert Staton (son), Oceanside, 1977 at age 7. (Robert is the guy that takes all
pics at the No Cal Jams)
"steelwheel Bob" Staton (father), Escondido, 1979 at age 34.
Nils "Da Frog" Hanson (grandson), Casper Classic Long Beach, 2003
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Ian's surf-skating
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On 7/11/2003
Kolu
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Aloha Ian - check out surfacemotion.com - I think it might be just what you are looking for....
ahui ho
Kolu
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new guy
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On 7/11/2003 ian
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i surf but i want to sk8 i see all the old school videos of surf sk8ing i tryed long boarding once and i love it but now i have my home made board trucks and slippery wheels that sorta suck but anyway i want to learn a few of the old school moves like toes on the nose and more like that if anyone can tell me different moves or a website or something explaining a few of them that would be great
DA HUI later dayz
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Cozmic1
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On 7/4/2003 vaitus
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steelkit,
I had the sixtracks on 1/2 flat risers and no wheelbite, great setup, occasional footbite but nothing major.
Then I moved to Webb Shogo 187mm trucks and super thin rubber pads (search in the trucks forum for my review and pics). INSANE setup, super low rider and monster carver, easy and controllable slides, hard to believe and describe.
footbite definetly a problem here, ate it big once and now I'm really careful when pushing but I'm not switching back.
I use 75a flashbacks for carving an 84a for sliding and I don't believe there's a better choice, but I haven't tried avalons yet.
If you want to get rid of the footbite problem I guess 149mm darts and 65mm wheels (noskools are great) are a better choice, but you'll loose a lot of "carvability" (but gain in "pumpability")
how's your fibreflex board by the way? how would you compare it to the cosmic1?
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vaitus' Coz 1
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On 7/3/2003 steelkilt
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vaitus,
I've got the Coz 1 too, set up with sixtracks (tracker yellow stims and bones blues), longer kingpins, flashbacks 75a.
Love the setup most times but when trucks are really loose and i'm carving hard, wheels just about bite with 1/4 - 1/2 in. wedged risers. Also, sixtracks/flashbacks combo means wide hot rod look for deck that's only 8.5 approx wide, so I've stomped the rear wheel once or twice while pushing.
I'm thinking of moving to narrower darts and maybe 65mm tall wheels. Any advice? what are you using on your coz1?
thx
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boards/burn/surfing
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On 7/2/2003
apryl
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yepp,i would think fiberglass would make just about any BOARD srtonger.dont surfboards have fiberglass?yeah i think so cuz thats why the dudes are always waxin down their surfboards.i myself have never surfed.i would love to do it but 1.i cant afford a board.and 2,my mom surfs and she told me befor she took me out,i needed to learn how to swim better in open water.i can swim really good,i might freak out in open water though.i love the ocean though.i just look at it and just stare in wonder,awe,and love all at the same time.its a big respect issue.like going to baldy pipe or comin to a nice pool(skateboarding)so for me to be able to go out into the ocean and surf it is incredible.i cant wate to paddle out... that burn u got must of sucked.i get burned all day long but those surfboards must be deadly.i know that must of hurt......esspecially in that salt water dude,god i dont even wanna imagine that pain.the whole good thing about surfin other than the fun is that its in water,and its hard to imagine getting hurt in water.but i would think it would be crazy in there.ud fall and not be able to control it.and that would freak anyone new at the sport.i now i would cuz i skate,and when u fall on ur board u can slide out if u have kneepads,run out,bail,ect..surfing,ur just there.u cant control it,and u CANNOT freak out because thats only gonna make it worse.all in all though i still wanna surf.maybe cuz i like skating,maybe cuz i like the boards,it might even be because i love the water.who knows.most sports that are fun,have to have a downfall.nothin can be perfect,GOD,but thats a whole new story.u cant care though ,if u really love what u do u cant care.cuz if u think about the bad things too much U start to be the bad thing.u gotta think positive in life and whatever board sport u do.because thats why u do it.i hate seeing kids like me today,but somhow not like me cuz there really good at what they do and only care about tricks.thats not what skatin is,go watch dogtown dude thats what it all came from.they were the ones who made up the tricks and u dont see them out there gettin all frustrated and mad cuz they didnt pull one off.1 ilove this site and all the people here cuz they dont care they just love what they do.maybe thats what every kid needs a good site like this with people that love what they do.people to show them that skating or surfing is alot more fun when u simply have fun.i pray 4 all those kids and really hpoe they learn what skating really is somday.i hope 1 day,500 kids dont come up to me and ask me how to get sponsored.they gotta understand that skating and surfing and there own life might be hard to control but they are the only ones that can control it.if they wanna be a pro skater so bad there goanna be a pro skater.most just dont really want it.but the ones that really want it like most of the amatures today and all the people who dont care like all the dudes that just wanna skate 4 what it is to them.all that makes me happy cuz it shows there is really hope for skating as we will know it in the future.well i gotta go,good luck to u all at sidewalk surfin.and alaways keep lovin it 4 the right reasons.seeya later.apryl
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noseriders
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On 6/30/2003
brian
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kolu
as far as determining the dimensions of my deck: i had almost 12" of width to work with and i wanted the deck to be scaled down proportionately length and width. 57" was what came out in the calculations.
i used regular titebond II wood glue. you could use epoxy or some sort of marine adhesive that's designed for use in wet situations, but as long as you seal up the wood really well, you likely won't have any problems until you start noticing the finish coming off.
that thing about having more nose, i want to feel like i have to work for it to get that heavy-nosed, pivoting kind of long-surfboard kind of turn, from the tail--ya know, really dig the toes in on my back foot on those drop-knee turns--that's why i wedge the rear (fat side to the back). the side-slipping feeling could be from over-steering rear trucks. it's not bad when you're goin slow, but it gets sketchy for me when the hill gets a little steeper. also, i think the sensation seems more similar to a snowboard turn than a surfboard turn.
oh yeah, fiberglass is always a good way to add strength to your deck. if i was going to glass a deck, i'd use maybe 3/8 or 1/2" stock instead of the 3/4" that i made my last two out of. check out the homemade boards page at this site, cuz there's lots of folks who've made more boards than i have who probably have lots more good ideas.
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home-brewed nose riders with wedgies
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On 6/30/2003
Kolu
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Hey Brian, mahalos for the info. I'm real interested in seeing the pictures. And I really like your idea of copying a surf template from a mag. Any reason why you chose 57" as the length? Also interested in knowing how your board holds up with just the glue. Any special type of glue or is that a factory secret? I wonder if wrapping the whole thing in fiberglass might have any advantage or just make it heavier. I suppose it would help with protecting the wood.... My only potential concern with going just glue is the weather in Hilo. It's so wet that I'm afraid the glue might just melt after a while and I'd end up on my head when it decided to fall apart. Then you guys would have to catch up with me in the "crashing" forum. Ouch. ;) Your comment "the more weight that has to be distributed rear truck to make it take over the steering action, the more "nose" you effectively put on your board" made me think a bit. I guess it really depends on what kind of riding you're doing, right? Still squishing that one around in my brain, but first though was, if you wanted to emulate a more classic style with full drop knee turns on a heavy old surfboard, I would imagine that "more nose" would give you a more realistic feel.... But of course I could be wrong. Just going on what the guy said on the surfacemotion website and what my squishy brain fed to me. I would imagine I might want a tighter nose and turnier tail. Although I did talk to vaitus about how my last 60" incarnation tended to track sideways-ish down the hill due to some reason I don't quite understand. Maybe my problem was what you described you didn't like: "when riding from the middle somewhere, i don't like the feeling of the tail steering as much as the front". There's a possibility that perhaps the tail was turning more than the nose and that was the problem that I was encountering while riding from the middle. Ah, upon reading your post again, I do see that you wedge both the front and back. Skinny side out on both sides or which...? Can't remember if you said or not. What we need is some variable-tilt risers that you can vary your wedge without having to remove your trucks. Or maybe variable wedge truck baseplates? I still haven't tried the wedges on my Pumpkin yet. Wanting to have a good feeling on what it's like before I muck around with it.
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