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flow
On 1/21/2003 me wrote in from (24.126.nnn.nnn)

that is chin......................

 
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Flow.
On 1/20/2003 Geezer-X wrote in from (149.2.nnn.nnn)

47" Bozi bentnose. Randal 180s, 74mm Flywheels, cutdown stimulator and soft blue conical bushings, PT ceramics. Bigass 5 level new parking garage with flawless clean concrete on Rockville pike in Rockville MD. 10pm, after dinner out w/ my wife. I drive to the top of the garage. "I'm gonna try my new board. Follow me down..." "you bought another skateboard?" "yeah but it's way cheaper than another Turner. Isn't it pretty?" "oh... (faking being annoyed)...ok..." I push off, and start carving S turns...it pumps really well. Building speed, I get lower and lower as I carve. I trace a long arcing turn from the far outside of one ramp to outside of the next, rear foot on it's side, my hand skimming the pavement, all Gregg Weaver, 1975. I S turn the final ramp, scrubbing speed off. Drag my foot to a stop. My wife pulls up. "Drive me back up, ok? I wanna go again" I repeat the first run, but alot faster, actually drifting some turns. It's completely awesome. It's maybe the first thing I reveisited from high school thats exactly as much fun as it was then, but better because of better hardware. At the bottom, I put the board in the back of my car. We drive down Rockville pike for a few blocks in silence. My wife finally says "That really looks like fun...it looks like you must feel like you're flying" "That's exactly what it feels like" I say "but with more flow" .

 
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god
On 1/19/2003 me wrote in from (24.126.nnn.nnn)

nishi is the real animal chin.........do you know chin....???

 
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snow and skates
On 1/13/2003 brian wrote in from (67.250.nnn.nnn)

good snow days with few or no people or just your bros can be fun, but it doesn't cost me anything to go skate; i like that. the other thing is i can't stand having my feet stuck in one spot on my board. but if i didn't live on a budget, or if i lived somewhere close to big hills and lots of snow and friends with snowshoes, i'd own a snowboard again. you can sure get in a lot of good turns in a day on the snow.

 
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Snowboarding is my winter Sidewalk Surfing
On 1/13/2003 lbk wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

For those of us that have winters, try out snowboarding for that longboard skateboard surf feeling.

Check out www.freecarve.com and go to the "Freeriding" forum.

 
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Golf course pouching
On 1/5/2003 Jason wrote in from (67.27.nnn.nnn)

I have found that hilly golf courses are great fun to ride. I have a golf course near my house and I have made a tradition of carving it every full moon. Its good to walk the cart paths first to scope out the best lines to ride.

Later on
Jason
Littletreelongboards@yahoo.com

 
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First Timer
On 1/3/2003 cj wrote in from (198.78.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for all your tips.
I've been cruising up and down parking lots and sidewalks now for about a week. I love the longboard, at the end of a session my left knee isn't killing me like it was on the shortboard. I've gotten used to it being so soft and turny, and my feet have found a home all on their own.
There's a skate park just down the street from here and there're no kids in it at dawn when I'm on my way to work, so I'm going to try it out sometime next week.

cj

 
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foot placement
On 1/1/2003 Speedy wrote in from (67.121.nnn.nnn)

cj,
Generally, I move my feet around depending on the kind of riding I do: squared, low and wide for hard turns, feet forward, straighter legs and narrower stance for cruising. As far as where you want to be, that's really a matter of taste, but think of this: if the weight's in the back, the back tends to slide out more, weight in the front and it slides less. This doesn't gennerally happen 'till you hit mach .4 or so, but still applies: the farther back your weight is, the harder you can turn it, but you lose grip.
I'm not sure how wide your board is, but you may want to try having the left foot a bit to the left of the center line, and the right a bit to the right. That way you can easily turn simply by shifting your weight back and forth from the hips. It's lethal at high speeds, but looks awsome and is really easy and fun (and quite safe) if you're going at a low to medium speed.
Enjoy your new board my friend, and welcome to the best addiction in the world!

-Speedy

 
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Learning to Longboard
On 12/31/2002 lbk wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

cj,

Cruise that 40” Kryp Mod Pop on a mellow hill by making wide sweeping turns like you are weaving from one side of the road to the other side. Don’t worry about kickturning a longboard. Those soft wheels are made to glide over typical road surfaces. Ever wondered why new school kids carry their kickflip boards when traveling from one place to another. It is because those small hard wheels are made for ollieing the board at moderate to slow speeds and not for enjoying the ride on the street.

As far as foot placement, longboards allow you to move about on the board for more advanced riding. But normally I like to place my front foot closer to the front truck and use the same stance width as I do for a short board (about shoulder width apart). Your back foot ends up way up away from back truck. I then slant my feet more parallel toward the nose. My longboard stance is unlike the stance I ride a short board (on a short board, my feet are almost perpendicular to the board).

As far as your torso, on a longboard you end up squaring your shoulders up with the fall line of the hill. In other words, you are facing the bottom of the hill and are attacking the turns much like a slalom skateboarder does. Street skaters and park skaters for the most part have their body bladed while riding (shoulder are in line with their feet just like they were standing straight on the kickflip board).

Once you get comfortable carving back and forth down a mellow hill, you will start to figure out how to pump up some speed. Basically you use those turny trucks in sync with the soft sticky wheels to convert sideways forces when carving the board into forward motion aka speed.

When I longboard skateboard, I vision myself as I am on a wave driving down the line for speed. I then toss in stylish carves like I’m throwing some spray off the top of the wave or soul arching a bottom turn.

cj, to learn more, pick up some of the longboard skateboard videos by Gravity, Sector9, or even the Kryptonic “Monkey” video. Guys like Cabbage and Brad Edwards are my favorite longboard skateboarders to watch. And if you want to kickturn that new longboard of yours at your local banks or ditch, check out Bob Loftin’s page http://www.texaslongboarder.com. BTW, longboard skateboarding in a park is a whole different topic and requires much harder wheels.

Hope this helps out. You are going to be stoked once you get that longboard wired.

DR
39 yrs young

 
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longboards
On 12/31/2002 erik wrote in from (68.99.nnn.nnn)

Hey cj, I am 30 just a little younger then you and I have been riding for only about 1 year. I picked it up pretty easy cause I surf, and I was looking for an alternative to surfing since I am landlocked right now. First of watch videos of how other people ride, to get an idea of where to put you feet and what not. I guess, also you have to decide what style of longboarding you like best. Check out carveboard.com they have a little 3 minute or so video of these guys carving down hills on carveboards, which is pretty cool. As for myself I ride a 46 inch gravity deck, and I usually stand toward to front of the board. I think my front foot is about 8 inches to a foot from the front of the board. As I am carving down a hill this lessens the weight on the back wheels, allowing for a more loose ride kind of like surfing. I also keep a pretty close stance. I guess my best advice is to just find a small hill or low grade road near you and mess around until it feels right.

 
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First timer
On 12/31/2002 cj wrote in from (198.78.nnn.nnn)

I'm 33 years old, and I just learned to ride a skateboard a couple of months ago. Not knowing what to do I decided I would get an inexpensive board to learn on, and then when I figured out all about this skating thing I would decide on a proper board when I had the proper information to do so.

I got the cheapest short board I could find, and while I was picking it out I looked at the long Sector Nines hanging on the wall next to it. I thought maybe I should buy one of those, but I stuck to mine plan, spending thirty dollars instead of a hundred and thirty. I was a little embarassed when I had to ask the guy, "Which end is the front?"

I've been riding the short board for the last couple of months, and I'm still not very good at it, but I do enjoy it.

While I learned, I read everything I could get my hands on, and eventually decided to get a long board. It didn't occur to me that I had never stepped on one before, my decision was based purely on what I had read.

Based on Hugh R.'s review (and the fact that we weigh about the same) I decided on the Kryptonics Mod-Pop and I put that at the top of my xmas list.

Christmas came, I got the long board, and the mumps - I really wasn't expecting two big gifts, but I'm not one to complain. It was almost a week before I was feeling better, so my new board sat there in front of the TV teasing my feverish brain.

Yesterday I got to break the board out for the first time. I brought it to work, and afterwards I went across the street to the parking lot of an unoccupied building. The lot was pretty rough and I was a little unsure. I knew I would never skate my shortboard there, but I just wanted to try to stand on this thing a little bit.

Here are my impressions (remember I've only ever ridden a cheap shortboard):

First thing, it's soooooooooooooft. Compared to this, my shortboard is hard as a rock. I felt like I was standing on a beach ball, unfortunately, the softness took away a lot of the stability I was used to, I've got to learn to ride this thing all over again.

It turns on a freaking dime. The short board, of course, had narrow stiff trucks, I wasn't at all prepared for this loose, soft turning. I was turning circles less than ten feet in diameter without a problem. Of course this made it a little harder to balance on the center line, it being so turny and all. It's a little harder to do backside turns, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.

Where the fruck do I put my feet? I realize the Mod-Pop is a small longboard, but there's like an acre of board here! When I got home I jumped on my shortboard and realized I hang the heel of my left foot off the back side, and the toe of my right foot off the front side. I can't do this on the Mod-Pop, for one thing it's so much wider, but another is that it's so turny I have to have my left foot on the center line when I kick, which means it's no where near the edge of this wide thing. On my shortboard, I put my left foot just behind and to the backside of the front truck when I kick, I still don't know where to put it on this board.

It's smooth, I kick it once, and even on this rough asphalt it seems to glide forever. Is that a longboard thing, or is it mainly because it doesn't have the cheapest bearnings and wheels money can buy?

The griptape is a little too grippy for my taste. I try to slide my feet into more confortable placement, and the board just grabs ahold of me. I'm hoping it'll wear down in time or I'll get used to it.

I would apreciate any input or advice you guys could give me as a newbie longboarder.

cj

 
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new on Texas Longboarder
On 11/29/2002 Bob Loftin wrote in from (209.99.nnn.nnn)

I just put up a new trick tip for a board walking move -- a total sidewalk move. Very fun.

http://www.texaslongboarder.com

 
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100
On 11/26/2002 lbk wrote in from (209.244.nnn.nnn)

100th post. Go Surfing!

 
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feelin the flow again
On 11/26/2002 easy rider wrote in from (128.243.nnn.nnn)

yeah JT.

 
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Sublime
On 11/25/2002 h0dad wrote in from (202.37.nnn.nnn)

"I never dreamed that when I grew up I would play in a band
and surf at all the best spots in the land
now I'm not here to day to boast
but to talk about the spots that I love the most...

Natural bridges
on a clean west swell
first one off the reef
like a bat out of hell

Close out Pipe makes you wish you were a trout
when it's 'macking so hard
only two dudes paddle out



A clean summer south-swell hit when I was back in my home town
and all the surf -side biyz were nowhere to be found
checking out the spots that I love the most..."

Yeah, played in h0dads mind so many times he could just type it there and then. Sublime rule.

 
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SoCal music
On 11/25/2002 Speedy wrote in from (169.237.nnn.nnn)

Let's not forget the SoCal skateboarder classics- Sublime from Long Beach. Bradly Noel and the boys really had it down. They were THE thing to listen to, whether cruising on a board or in a car. For that matter, they still are and most likely always will be.

-Speedy

 
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socal music
On 11/23/2002 Brady wrote in from (66.21.nnn.nnn)

Don`t get Blink 182 but I dig Incubus big time,
And you can`t leave out Red Hot Chili Peppers...
speaking of which, check this link out and take a peek at "The Zephur Song"......

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/multimedia/index.html

Now if I can only figure out how to watch and listen to the vid and skate at the same time. Fly away into Zephur Land....yeah brah !!

 
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music
On 11/22/2002 erik wrote in from (68.99.nnn.nnn)

It is funny...people bitch about SO-Cal music, like blink-182 and other punk bands similar to them, but I think they have the same feeling/sound as some of the 60's bands. Jan and Dean..great band. Ride ride the wild surf.

 
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~~~~~~feeling the flow~~~~
On 11/22/2002 JT!! wrote in from (194.222.nnn.nnn)

My local car park banks from either end to the centre at which point it runs like a gentle spine all the way down the length of it. I love skating over the spine making a backside carve... walking to the nose, hanging ten... sterr it to the rail, and hold... crosstep back...frontside carve, grabbing the rail and touching the ground. i have reached the shore! I sit for fifteen minutes and admire the tarmac! The car park that is quiet! The car park shaped like a wave! The car park in Scotland!

 
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ya
On 11/21/2002 erik wrote in from (68.99.nnn.nnn)

Umm...ya.uhh Ok wierdo

 
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Speedy
On 11/21/2002 Helter Skelter wrote in from (128.206.nnn.nnn)

...and I see you again,
yea, yea, yea...
do you or don't you want me to make you,
I'm coming down fast so don't let me break you,
Tell me tell me tellmetheanswercuzImaybealover,
but I ain't no dancer...
come on, helter skelter

 
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shortboard simulation
On 11/20/2002 inthebarrel wrote in from (198.86.nnn.nnn)

Anyone out there notice they can shortboard a lot better if they practice on the street a day before a session?
I have a cosmic II S9. Perfected my roundhouses on it. More the Curren like ones, maintaining speed through the whole part of the turn and coming off the rebound with more speed then I entered the turn with. I am just so stoked to be able to practice on the street. My trimming and bottom turns have also been improved via skating. My favorite however, is to bottom turn and snap it off the top with just enough pressure to keep the "fins" from sliding out. I imagine a big old spray out the back. Super fun. Usually done on a flattish street, with a little hump in the middle, sort of like a Huntington beach wave.
Would like to hear other's sidewalk shortboarding experiences.

 
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flow
On 11/17/2002 Speedy wrote in from (67.121.nnn.nnn)

When I skate like I would like to think I surf, I have both feet parked on top of the front truck. I'm sliding along over the smoothnes with the tail of the board almost off the ground, both hands high in the air, above and a little behind my head. Knees bent, I flow through the green tunel, be it wave or hedge, then duck back out into the mainstream where people without boards toil to get past the shining overhang and loud motor vehicles. Finaly, I turn back the way I have come, and muscle-power my way against the gradient. Then I stop and I turn and I go for a ride, 'till I get to the bottom... (that last line is the Beatles')

-Speedy

 
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smash
On 11/16/2002 erik wrote in from (68.99.nnn.nnn)

When I skate and I make a big carve all I can think about is smashing the lip of an overhead wave, then doing a big bottom turn only to line up and pump through the rest of the section as fast as I can.....so there

 
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surfy deck
On 11/14/2002 erik wrote in from (68.99.nnn.nnn)

Dom, I also ride for the purpose of practicing surfing until I get back to the ocean to actually surf. I ride a 46" gravity concave deck and I like it a lot. I have ridden sector 9's but this deck/setup seems a little more loose and flexy then other I have ridden. If you stand toward the front the back wheels get realy loose allowing you to make turns that somewhat feel like a turn on a shortboard when surfing, although it is not as fast or as tight. I would say it feels like you are not ripping the wave but flowing with it and carving.

 
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