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| Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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On 2/3/2005
Dave
wrote in from
United States
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Mike
I also did not hear back from you.
(Like Ben) Are they sold? I would like
some or all if still available.
Dave
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wheel post
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On 2/3/2005
ben
wrote in from
United States
(66.190.nnn.nnn)
Mike,
dude, I emailed you in regards to your posting on buy-sell-trade for a lot of turner/3dm wheels. I just wanted one or two good sets, but would have loved to have them all. I emailed the day of the posting and two times since. You never responded nor posted anything to let folks know the wheels were gone. Are they. If not it is disappointing because I could have purchased a set from a later posting, Dave Nitchell's garage sale, that are now gone as well. I just think it would be good bulletin board courtesy to reply to folks when you post something for sale. If you are too busy for that, you should be able to post that they are gone on the forum.
ben
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Wahl
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On 2/3/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
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No worries Wahl. I thought Oly was setting the next course??? Whomever sets it, whether it's John O or Oly, I bet it won't be technical. So in that case it may be a benefit to run larger more downhill style wheels...I don't know though until I see the course. On the other hand, I used to ride Avalons for downhill and keep up with guys on larger wheels...that was on technical roads in the East Bay though, maybe flat out straight courses will run faster on larger diameter wheels. We'll see I suppose. As for wheels in general, I've tried the larger wheels, Avilas, and do not like them. They seem all squishy to me and unpredictable at speed. I have yet to try some of the PP biggins. This weekend I'm kinda slammed. I've got Saturday morning open though, so maybe we can get some waves? Call me.
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Will ICK STICKS be on the podium next BLR race?
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On 2/2/2005
WAHL
wrote in from
United States
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Mike,
I recieved your voicemail a day late. Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner. My knee is doing better. I plan on surfing/skating this weekend. Also wondering what you think is the call for Hacketts next race. You seem to do well on the smaller PP wheels. I was riding the larger GS ones up front. I imagine John O will be setting a very non-technical but very fast course for the next one..
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in different area codes...
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On 2/2/2005
Betty... or berry
wrote in from
United States
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I got pros
Yes, thanks for all the input! :D
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Pro Advice
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On 2/1/2005
Eddy
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks again Mike. You are allways willing to share your knowledge. Eddy Texas Outlaws.
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KebbeK GS
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On 2/1/2005 Ian
wrote in from
Canada
(70.48.nnn.nnn)
The slalom prices are
GS 79
Team S 79
Pro S 85
You can reach us through sales@kebbek(DOT)com
Thanks
Ian
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kebbek
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On 1/31/2005
berry's husband
wrote in from
United States
(24.170.nnn.nnn)
Do you have prices worked up? I think she (me) might be intreasted in the gs board.
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KebbeK Slalom Boards
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On 1/31/2005 Ian
wrote in from
Canada
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Hi Betty, thanks for your interest in the KebbeK slalom line. The mould we use was designed by one of our pros Pierre Gravel, it doesn't have any concave but has a one inch of camber over 44 inches, that is to say that on a 30 inch board it would be .68 inches of camber, on a 36 inch board it would be .82 inches of camber.
All of the boards are horizontal laminates sandwiched between preloaded fiberglass. This makes for a very responsive board but not as light as the more expensive foam versions. We use a male and female mould as opposed to vaccuum bagging one side.
The different flexes are determined by the quantity of veneers used, the ratios of cross grains to straight grains, and the distance beteween the two layers of fiber. We have many flex combinations amongst the boards. Hope that helps.
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Crazy Canadians
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On 1/29/2005
Betty
wrote in from
United States
(24.170.nnn.nnn)
Cool, thanks Claude. I got my arms a-movin' like you told me to- and the last race RKR had, I was neck and neck with the big boys. Will you be at Luna this year? I think we're having it on the road we practice on- at Madlands. We wanted to do more of a racers' race instead of a spectators' race, and it's gonna be AWESOME. I'll bring some Molson for you, eh? Hoser.
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Kebbek Slalom Boards
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On 1/28/2005
Cknuck
wrote in from
Canada
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Hi Betty! I've asked Pierre or Ian to contact you on the Canada page. The board I raced last year at Luna was a stiff model. After that I raced a slitghly softer the rest of the season.
It's tough to test properly right now with my ankle still causing so much discomfort. Kebbek does have some softer models that Mia and MB ride. They really like the feel of the board.
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Racing
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On 1/26/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
Don't think I'll be doing any travelling this season again...I just don't have the money. I've been unemployed now for 3 weeks and it's getting hard to feed myself if you know what I mean. The last thing on my mind is travelling to race. Unless it's travelling to SD for the PlumpHouse race...that's probably going to be the extent of my travels this season. I don't even know about the Worlds this year.
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Board Stiff
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On 1/26/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
"Mr. Maysey, have you seen the new Kebbek boards?"
Yes I have. Only the downhill versions though.
"Claude Regnier is CKnuck, right?"
Yes I beleive so...he's one of those crazy Canadians eh?
"And these are his model boards or he is producing them?
I don't know about this...anyone...anyone...Bueller?
"Have you ridden one?"
Miko Biffle has a downhill board I rode once at Tunnel Rd in Berkeley...it had drop though trucks and friggin rocked the Tunnel.
"Has anyone ridden them- the site I saw didn't mention anything about camber or concave, I was wondering how the flex was compared to the Pocket Pistol. He has one called Slalom Giant (a 36")that I was looking at- thanks."
Not knowing about Kebbek...but I know PP's are available in custom flexes.
"I may just hold off on getting a board until after I've tried a few- I want to try the new Roes- but I don't understand really what makes them different from their foam core boards."
Good idea. I find the foam core boards a little more forgiving in terms of shock absorption. Wood boards tend to vibrate more...under my feet anyway than the foam core cousins. Try a bunch of stuff...then when you go to order a new stick, you'll know more about what you like and dislike. Then you'll get boards that rock. For me...I stepped on a couple of Steve Evans boards before I ordered my ICK's. I just told Rick to make me such and such board just like Evans' board...result, I have 3 boards that rock. But I wouldn't have known that unless I tried his first. I would have been shooting in the dark without that little bit of insight.
Skate on...
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Wheelz
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On 1/26/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
"Do you want softer wheels in the back and harder wheels in the front? Mr. Maysey, how do you have your wheels?"
Generally, I would say yes. Harder in front and softer in the back. However, I've been riding my GS board with 80's around and my TS board with 84's around. I find the softer wheels on the G-board hook up better because I have a tendency to shift my weight around so much on the board that a harder wheel in front can sometimes lead to a front end drift...not fun when you're flying through a fast course. By the same token, I've been riding 84's around on my TS board because it's shorter and I have a tendency to be more equally weighted front to back...my stance isn't so spread out and furthermore...the direction changes in TS tend to be less dramatic in TS courses than on GS courses.
Wheels themselves...well I rode Turner Avalons for quite sometime...recently switched to Manx and I'm not going anywhere from now on. They just work...they grip in every situation and if they slide...they are very predictable when they hook back up. Not the scary feeling you get when an Avalon breaks traction then hooks back up again. ABEC 11...never ridden them...never needed to.
As for offsets...I strongly recommend them. I ride an offset RT-S in GS and an offset Tracker Mid for HS and TS. The RT-S came from Tracker and the Mid's were made by the same guy that does Chicken's Indys.
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maryhill
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On 1/25/2005
david
wrote in from
United States
(68.167.nnn.nnn)
yo mike, you should save up some $$ and come race maryhill this summer, you dont need leathers, what have you got to lose besides some skin? lets race bro, dont forget the rope!
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Kebbek
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On 1/25/2005
Betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Maysey, have you seen the new Kebbek boards? Claude Regnier is CKnuck, right? And these are his model boards or he is producing them? Have you ridden one? Has anyone ridden them- the site I saw didn't mention anything about camber or concave, I was wondering how the flex was compared to the Pocket Pistol. He has one called Slalom Giant (a 36")that I was looking at- thanks.
I may just hold off on getting a board until after I've tried a few- I want to try the new Roes- but I don't understand really what makes them different from their foam core boards.
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Ya one more time Slalom practice & garage racing in San Jose
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On 1/21/2005
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
(68.124.nnn.nnn)
Saturday Janury 22 Slalom practice at Bernal rd San Jose 80 cone course set
Sunday January 23 3pm Outlaw garage race #6
meet at the Workhouse recording studio in San Jose at 2:30
any questions call 408 287 1843 or go to: Click here for link
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Boardz
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On 1/21/2005
Betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
Yeah, I went the Bahne Black Hill way starting out, but once I stepped on that Roe I knew I needed something more technical. I'm really thinking of getting a 36" Pocket Pistol for GS type courses- and I really think it's time I invested in those off-set trucks Chicken has- I got my husband some for his birthday and he loves them- I think everyone on Roadkill has off sets now, 'cept for me and Meg. :( But it's in the works. I need to learn more about wheels, if ya'll have any input there. I've really only ridden Manx and Grippins, I want to try Avalons, but the whole color thing confuses me. Do you want softer wheels in the back and harder wheels in the front? Mr. Maysey, how do you have your wheels? Thanks for all the feedback. I'm hoping to make it to more races this year- I want to hit St. Louis, Breckenridge, Athens, and of course I'll be at Luna. See ya'll there.
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A Board for Betty, Part III
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On 1/20/2005 Same Guy
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Another multi wheel base option is the Bahne Blackhill, and fairly easy on the budget to boot.-Paul
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A Board for Betty, Part II
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On 1/20/2005 Pauliwog's 2 cents
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
If you're thinking of getting, as Mike suggested, another board or two, and you're REALLY into slalom, it's worth getting the good stuff which often is spendier. In the meantime, for a good "one gun" I recommend an 8-ply stiff flat(no camber) wood deck with holes drilled for 18"-23" (with wheel wells for all wb lengths is even better but you'll probably have to do that yourself) so you can really mess around with one deck and get a good solid handle on wheelbases you like for different courses. Because it's stiff and flat no matter what wb you use on it, there's less variables to worry about like camber and stiffness matching your weight and wheel base. Often a longboard cut down works really well, or a short longboard for that matter. I still keep my deck like this as a "defensive" board for courses that are really tight/fast and on fairly good surfaces. Sometimes Lo-Tech is best(but sometimes not). Plus it's a good loaner for any friends to try slaloming on. I am but a B division racer so take all this for what it's worth. - Paul
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C-Blocks
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On 1/20/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
"How do people typically put these wedges in? Wedge up the front toe & rear heel? Front heel and rear toe? Toes on both feet? Heels on both? Both sides of both feet?"
Typically, people will use the wedges to 'concave' the nose of the board and use a section of the wedge in the tail to create a 'kicktail.' Some people only use it to concave the nose and leave the tail of the board flat. For instance, I use high density foam on my Ick stick in the shape of a 'V' in the nose pointing forward so that the steepest part of the 'concave' is right above my front truck. I've also checked out Chickens boards and he uses the C-Blocks in a 'V' shape, without any in the tail. Richy uses the foam in the nose to create 'concave' and some in the tail to create a 'kicktail.' I've also seen boards that use it all the way down the rail creating a kind of concave from nose to tail. If I were you, I'd take that foam with the backing still on it and lay it on my board. With bare feet stand on it and see what feels okay. Move it around and see if any one position sort of speaks to you. If you ride pools or parks, stand on that board and see if that's a feeling you might like on a slalom board.
Hope this helps...M
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A board for Betty
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On 1/20/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Maysey, I am looking into getting a new slalom set up... and I'm wondering what you suggest. I was riding the keith hollien roe for a long time, and it got to feeling a little clausterphobic- like I needed a bigger board. I switched to a 36" board, and whether it was the sheer weight of a much bigger board or whatever, I gained a little something. Anyway, I know a 36" slalom board isn't a logical choice for tight slalom, but I think I may have a board in the making that will be a perfect ts set up. As for gs, if I can handle the 36" and am comfortable on it, is that what I should be riding?
Yes, my GS board is around about that length. The more important measurement though on slalom boards is the inner hole to inner hole measurement. For instance, I ride a 24" inner to inner board for GS/SGS. It's very long but holds speed very well and allows me to draw my turns out longer so I can drive more effectively from cone to cone.
"Is it possible that the bigger board is improving my pump and increasing my speed, or would a smaller, 20 something inch board be better for improving my style, speed, etc.?"
It certainly is. You're learning how to move your body and board in unisen. The longer board, in my opinion, will make riding your shorter boards easier because you'll take that technique and translate it into shorter bursts rather than longer sustained turns like you will do on the longer board.
"I'm just not sure what I want- go figure. Thanks in advance for replying to this post."
Most slalom skaters have 3 or more boards in the garage to tackle different courses. Sounds to me like you're working your way into having multiple boards.
Hope this helps...if only a little bit. Anyone else want to chime in? Feel free. Late
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C-Block Foam Wedges
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On 1/20/2005
Chris
wrote in from
United States
(216.243.nnn.nnn)
Hi Mike,
I just got my new slalom deck in the mail today. I also got some C-Block foam wedges.
How do people typically put these wedges in? Wedge up the front toe & rear heel? Front heel and rear toe? Toes on both feet? Heels on both? Both sides of both feet?
I know it is a matter of personal preference, but since I've never even ridden them, I have no preference. And they only stick on once. If you could just tell me how most people do it, then I would at least have a starting point.
I really appreciate any guidance you could give me.
Thanks.
CM
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ready for something new...
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On 1/20/2005
betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Maysey, I am looking into getting a new slalom set up... and I'm wondering what you suggest. I was riding the keith hollien roe for a long time, and it got to feeling a little clausterphobic- like I needed a bigger board. I switched to a 36" board, and whether it was the sheer weight of a much bigger board or whatever, I gained a little something. Anyway, I know a 36" slalom board isn't a logical choice for tight slalom, but I think I may have a board in the making that will be a perfect ts set up. As for gs, if I can handle the 36" and am comfortable on it, is that what I should be riding? Is it possible that the bigger board is improving my pump and increasing my speed, or would a smaller, 20 something inch board be better for improving my style, speed, etc.? I'm just not sure what I want- go figure. Thanks in advance for replying to this post.
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Wheels and narrow tails
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On 1/19/2005 P.Wog
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks for all the info everyone- Paul
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