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| Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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On 6/1/2003 Farid
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Guys,
All I know is this: On the Trocadero where they had cones 2 meters on center (6.5 feet)in a straight line, more than half of the FCR pros would be blowing out by the lower portion of the course. It was FAST & TIGHT! If every one of the top ten in the FCR went, they all would have been racing for 2nd place. Yes, Luca Giammarco is in a league all by himself. In GS where speeds are in the 35+ range, we would have a chance.
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"beginner slalom"
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On 6/1/2003 ur13
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I don't get this....slalom on flat or even uphill being "beginner slalom". There is little beginner about it. Given all you speed comes from your pump the problems in one's form/technique become very apparent. There is no room for mistakes. That is one of the beauties about slalom skateboarding...being able to generate your own speed. As the english. I doubt many top level english courses would be considered beginner. Hell a 36 cone 1.7m course may be easy to "make" but to make that course at a world record speed is another thing.
Challenging courses can be set on any hill, any flat, any up hill...that is what is so cool about slalom.
Get off the macho BS and have an open mind. There is ALOT more to slalom than going 40mph around 30'+ offset cones. That IS apart of slalom but it is only one part of many.
If all flatland slalom is for beginners on the same note one can set a beginner course on a hill. One can set a beginner course going 30mph....
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Cali GS . . .
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On 6/1/2003 SSS Racing
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As far as Cali GS -- while you guys are shakin in your Vans we are chargin and driving bigger and faster courses! We ride everything out here -- even your beginner flat courses -- on hills! Gary Cross knows what's up!
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Can Somebody define what Cali GS is?
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On 6/1/2003 Slalom Hack
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Whatever course Gary Cross decides he wants to ride on race day.
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whoops
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On 5/31/2003 ur13
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Eric I apologize for responding to your comment. I realize that no one here can even remotely know as much as you and therefore none of us can question you or voice an opinion of our own.
Sorry about that. It won't happen again.
It's better to ignore Eric Groff's "opinions" and rants.
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Whatever
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On 5/31/2003
Arab
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The ISSA is DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank God!
Thanx for enlightening us with your vast slalom knowledge, I live in California and I dont think I have every actually raced on a California GS.
Is "Cali GS" in the official ISSA begineer handbook?
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cali GS
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On 5/31/2003 ur13
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The GS set at La Costa last summer would qualify as a "cali (or american) GS" IMHO. That being opposed to the "GS" course that was run in Paris which would be called a hybrid course here in the USA.
For definations of ISSA spec courses go here;
http://www.pcpal.se/issa/
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Storey Road tomorrow 9:30am
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On 5/31/2003
mike maysey
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I'm planning to head up to Storey RD tomorrow morning around 9:30 am. Anyone in this area c'mon out and skate with me. I'm planning on running some Cali GS!! Got a new stick to try out.....c'mon out and see what the Turner Super Skunk Works has been up to lately.
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Cali GS
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On 5/31/2003
mike maysey
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Good Point Arab...I would classify Cali GS loosely by the speeds. I like GS on as steep a hill as I can handle...getting steeper all the time. ie.)The race at MeLaren Park a month ago was on a VERY steep hill with speeds closer to downhill than to 'slalom.'
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On 5/31/2003
Arab
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"For Cali GS and courses where pumping is less of need...where stability is more important I think I would resort back to .325" and under in riser."
Can Somebody define what Cali GS is?
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Jacked up Slalom Boards...
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On 5/30/2003
mike maysey
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I've been skating TS and HS with fairly high risers lately. It helps when the courses are technical. You can loosen your trucks and crank turns way harder than with the lower risers and tight trucks. For open HS and GS, I still use fairly low riser set ups. Recently, I've gone to flat risers in the rear. I used to have a hard time making flat risers work in the rear...since I've gotten a little better at running cones, I've found the flat riser configuration works better. You can run the back truck slightly tighter and still get the same amount of turn and have greater stability at high speed with a slightly looser front truck I can make just about any offset and hang tough at speed without worry of wobbs.
Jack up your TS board to 3/4"-1" riser and loosen your trucks a bit...set a course with some wacky compressed offsets and go for it. As UR13 says, try it....you might like it.
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Cones
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On 5/30/2003
mike maysey
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FYI-Turner Summer Ski is out of the Cone deal...sorry about that. I think Howard Gordon would be the best person to contact for cones.
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Frontside v. Backside Pump
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On 5/30/2003
mike maysey
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David...I think my heelside pump is stronger than my toeside pump. Mainly because I can croutch down lower and drive through the turn more than toeside. I've been working on making both sides equal, but it's definatley harder for me to get as much drive toeside as heelside.
See you when you get back down here............
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tall
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On 5/30/2003 ur13
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I have been running 3/4" of riser lately. It's the bomb for TS, Euro TS and parallel pumpers (1.7m, cyberslalom). There is the anti wheelbite issue of it all but more importantly there is the added leverage. I find pumping from a dead stop with the taller risers easier. The other key point is the ability to work around tough offsets, especially toeside ones. Since you are so high up off the ground (and with the correct stance) it makes reaching for said cone easier and cutting it ultra close (late entry) easier given you sneak around the cone better.
I've even been running GS (more EURO GS, hybrid here) with 3/4" at moderate speeds and it feels fine. I think if you properly setup your trucks the added height isn't an issue.
For Cali GS and courses where pumping is less of need...where stability is more important I think I would resort back to .325" and under in riser.
All these numbers are with PVDs too, which are a LOW profile truck. The numbers may be less for trackers, indys, seismics, etc.
Like alot of things there is a definate sweet-spot. Too much and you will know.
I'm liking the extra height right now, but who knows in a few weeks/months. I have been riding it for over a month now and like the results...but then again I'm working on alot of things right now.
Try it, you might like it.
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Cones
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On 5/30/2003 Hamm
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Turner SummerSki is out of cones right now, but will be getting more and offering the same great price.
If you can't wait I believe you can still get them from 3DM.
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Taller Tight Setups
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On 5/30/2003
Ricky
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Ooo, ooo, ooo... (horshack imitation)
Any insight out there on the craze to add as much as an inch or more of riser to a tight course set up much like the euro's have been doing for years. I guess it works, but I've always been one to try to maintain a low CG.
I assume in a GS situation the low CG is still the way to go.
Where is the cut off on tall set ups? Is it cone spacing or speed?
How many out there are using this taller set up approach?
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Cones
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On 5/30/2003 john kim
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Mark,
Contact Turner Summer Ski. Last I heard they had a sale on cones.
John
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best price/place for cones?
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On 5/30/2003
Mark
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Slalom newbie looking for best place to find/buy cones. Haven't done the cone-wiggle thing in like 25 years, so I'm in need of cones.
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grammer
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On 5/29/2003 david
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become not so active....
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frontside/backside pump
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On 5/29/2003
david
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hey mike, i gots a question since this forum seems to have because not so active.
what would you say is your stronger pump, toeside or heelside?
for me i feel that my toe side pump is stronger, i'm trying to get a stronger pump going, any advice?
oh yea, i'll be back in SF in 2 weeks for the summer, can't wait to race more!
whats up with the North Bay vs. South bay outlaw race? its a great idea, we should do it! maybel a hill in the presidio?
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! might just be the fastest
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On 5/28/2003 Dagoo
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Hi I am a long time skater and would like to try slolom again.My history goes way back when clay wheels were around and lose ball bearings.Cadillac came out with the urethane wheel, I used Bennett and Road Riders,I had a set of 4's and 6's. I think I have the most knowledge on this site as far as history goes. You can ask me any question and I can answer it. Dont get me wrong but I but if I do come back ,I hate to say it but I just might be the fastest out there. I go back along time ways, do you remember Waldo Aultry,Henry hester,listen those were the days. Dagoo
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Training
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On 5/28/2003
Miko
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Not sure if anyone is doing it yet, but remember gang, there is such a thing as over-training. Think about how much you ride and find a way to moderate it and recover. (If you're lucky enough to ride that much!)
Break days, ice and elevation when muscles and joints hurt, stretching, a decent diet and avoiding over-indulging in all fun foods and beverages could make you faster too!
(From an old guy who want so see you all skating when you're as old as I am!)
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Camp Holl...
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On 5/28/2003
Miko
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Had a nice session last night at Gary's slalom boot camp.
Attendees were the seargeant, John Kim and his wife (sorry, I've got to get her name down!), John Ravitch, Matt Schreiber and Bill Evans. Pretty small crew, but people were probably too hot. We had a nice tail-wind at Shoreline and temps were lower than anywhere else. Perfect!
Ran an interesting take on Fluitt's posted Breck tight. (How many cones? I'd guess maybe 55-70?) Anyway it was a challenging aerobic and technical workout. Pumping through the big multi-cone hip was interesting. The slow shift around the bend allowed you a bit more time to experience the subtle weight shifts involved in powering through them. I'm bummed that I'm going to miss Breck, but really rootin' for the Midtown session crew.
As usual Gary was smoking on his new Roe!
Ravitch is very quietly testing wheels, working on his setup, and trying to act old and worn out but we all know how focused he is at the races. Watch out!
Rider alert! John Kim has been sneaking up the speed-o-meter and may just be a spoiler for many of you open class riders at Breck!
A huge thanks to Gary for his ongoing commitment to providing a regular and frequent session for us! Take advantage of a good site, great coaching, and an awesome crew and get out there and ride!
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Speak Up Out There...
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On 5/28/2003
mike maysey
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Hey now...I know I didn't answer every question everyone has out there. I know there's folks who visit this board and read the stuff but don't post. Well...I want to see some new stuff up here by this afternoon from some of you who lurk and don't speak up! Don't be shy.
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100 Cone Burn!!!
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On 5/27/2003
mike maysey
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Well in that case...thanks to John and Julius for deciding to do the race.
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