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FCR Standings?
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On 6/14/2003
mike maysey
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Nobody seems to know what the standings are and frankly, I don't really care. I'm just having fun racing with all my friends.
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Thanks John
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On 6/14/2003
mike maysey
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so how have the waves been lately? My knee is probably healed enough now to give it another go. I was actually thinking of trying to get some waves today. Think it's worth a look?
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congrats on podiums!
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On 6/14/2003
john airey
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mike, congrats on your 2 podiums.
What are the FCR standings? Do you have a
chance for the series title?
I used to always tell myself that if you are close it is
just a matter of time, I hope you continue to have fun,
cause those wins will come. Good luck on the next one.
I seem to be doing a lot of park riding and surfing,
not much slalom practice,
but if we have any local events, I will try to
come and be cannon fodder for the up and coming.
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Wheel Wear
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On 6/13/2003
mike maysey
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Hey Dave...don't worry about the coning wheels...that means you're skating more than keyboarding. The coned wheels will actually increase grip. Personally, I prefer to use coned wheels on steeper courses where speed generation isn't an issue and traction is difficult to find. The trade-off is they do tend to roll a little slower, so on courses where speed is tough to muster, I use newer wheels that are less coned. One more thing...coned wheels are better to practice on because they force you to pump harder to generate more speed.
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Wheel wear Q&A
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On 6/13/2003 Dave
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My back wheels (Avalon 80A) are coning inside edges.
Is this normal wear? Will this make the wheels slower?
more or less grip? Do you use fresh wheels for races?
Thanks Dave
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perpetuity
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On 6/12/2003
MARK MCCREE
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Mike, It was fun racing with you this past weekend. The subject of the past few posts are more than news to me. I have long before agreed to the fact that venue sanctioning is the key to a successfull program.
You can't sell baseballs and bats without little league, minor league, major league and the world series.
You can't sell an activity to the viewing public without the players WITH the bats and balls.
Right now I believe it is important for all of the equip. mfr'rs to re-invest in some kind of venue endeavor. Simply offering product is only half of the equation.
I have vowed to make sure that a percentage of every $ spent by racers goes to a promotion of some kind of slalom racing.
I did it in '78 with ARA, and I am positioning myself to do it again. I challenge all of the "players" in this game to get with me and start a proactive move toward guaranteeing the financial stability of venue promotion.
Without it, we are selling baseballs and bats to a gameless group of people - how long can that last?
McCree
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Thanks Don, Jack, John
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On 6/12/2003 John Gilmour
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I have to agree with Don O'Shei. Without races there is no sport as we now know it. Why practice if there are no races? Why buy the gear if there are no races? I slalomed for exercise and fun for myself...but for the most part it is difficult to involve people in slalom if there are no races.
Jack, Don, and John and their other partners took an important step forward in making a series out of slalom and that has encouraged others to do the same. Dan Gesmer seems to attend more races than any racer- Thanks Dan.
It has been interesting to watch the sport wake up again. Each time there is a hurdle, people have to prove that the sport IS worth it and people ARE interested. There has to be interest for people to invest and for some it is a chicken and egg thing. For instance...Terence Kirby invested some of his money to buy up all the remaining stock of hyper stradas from all of the Roller Rinks. Terence proved that there was demand for slalom wheels...which led people to start making wheels for our sport again.
EBAY has been key to viewing demand for slalom products in our early stages. I watched prices of Turner Summer Ski decks soar..and this information was valuable for Howard to step into the slalom market. Demand for trucks also increased and we saw demand for Offset trucks increase.
As someone who slalomed in contests and had long stretches without contests I can tell you that I was pretty content slaloming on the same gear year after year- (want more challenge....just change the course). Contests make you want to get better gear and provide a market for the industry to make better gear. Better gear that is SPECIFIC for our sport lends credibility to our sport.
Right now there is not much lacking to really make this fly. I'd personally like to see at least three times as many competitive racers, but as it stands we have what I think is the minimum to have a sport. We have specialized gear...which will likely continue to improve. We have the beginnings of a Sanctioning body for the USA and the possibility of a reawakening for Europe, and another smaller competition circuit in Japan. Videos are also key and Maria and Kenny and John all have helped to make it possible to see our sport. High production video events that were televised are important ...but current accessibility to Contest footage seems to be just as important. Looking at Vlad's Breck photos...you don't have to be a slalom racer to see the enthusiasm for Gary's event.
The one thing that is missing... A place to do slalom in your home town. Perhaps the whole "cone issue" has to be revisited. I think it has been the one thing that has always made it difficult for people to get into slalom.
The other thing...a $79 timing system.
As for Mike who said...
"As for the tight race...I rode a White Turner Fullnose classic, made by Vince"
props to showing that the Classics are more than Classics- they still are full on racing machines. Invest in the gear some of it gets better with age.
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FCR
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On 6/12/2003
Hamm
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Miko, your post is DEAD ON TARGET.
Some simple communication about the status of the season would be HUGE to the racers depending on them.
Elsinore results?
Season Standings?
La Costa & Tahoe? they are not even on the FCR Website.
Help us!
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Tahoe, LaCosta and Morro FCR races
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On 6/12/2003 gary
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FCR, what dates are scheduled for the Tahoe, LaCosta and Morro?
please let us know so we can plan ahead.
thanks.
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FCR/MM/Miko/HG
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On 6/11/2003
John Ravitch
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I actually agree with all 4 of your posts - we need more positive and constructive dialogue - maybe better offline, out of the spotlight for the moment, so we can move things forward more efficiently.
All of us are very busy with our lives, but at the end of the day FCR and Howard's business have done a tremendous amount for the sport - I, for one, am very thankful. It has really changed my life - to get off my butt at 41 and race in an organized venue with new friends, is a joy come true. I have enjoyed the whole racing scene which is why I keep coming back. Do I think there is room for improvement - yes, certainly.
The key is looking at the reality of the situation and deciding what can be done within the limited financial resources available - we all do this every day in our professional careers, maybe we can also do it here.
Here are 5 steps we use at IDEO to move things forward:
1. seperate the people from the problem
2. focus on mutual interests, not positions
3. invent options for mutual gain
4. insist on usinq objective criteria to evaluate options
5. execute the idea and repeat the cycle
I want to keep racing. As many people know, I am available to help however I can on the marketing front. Just ping me and lets start the discussion. I had a great time at Breck - I appreciate everything that Gary, Jack, Don, John, Jen and Dan did for us. So if I can return the favor - call or email me. If this racing thing slips through the cracks or does not evolve based on all learning we've had since GGP a few years back - it will be a real shame.
Thanks,
John Ravitch
415-615-5054
jravitch@ideo.com
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FCR Races!
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On 6/11/2003
Miko
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To further clutter up Mike's house.
Nice to hear from you Don! I'm bummed that my own schedule has kept me from getting to Elsinore and Breck. I made it to the Slalom Cross and it was awesome.
I'm totally stoked to hear about Tahoe, La Costa and Morro Bay and look forward to them. Are they going to occur on the previous dates posted? I've had them on my calendar for awhile now, and would love to get my dates locked down with my employer so I can plan to attend. Otherwise I may end up hosed again and be stuck watching from my computer. I LOVE to race, and I think you know that. Help me get to the races with some dates!
Oh yeah! Is Catalina still planned as a post-worlds shindig?
I was losing hope about '03 there too Don, and would comment that simply posting a monthly update and hello to us would really go a long way.
I've bitched about a few courses, but get on them and work the details out and race, and I go home stoked. I learn something every time. I've absolutely loved many of the courses and continue to replay memories of those weekends, and know I will until the day I die. This has been an incredible rebirth of the sport.
You guys (and ncdsa) are also responsible for an extended worldwide community and many, many new friends, for which I'm very, very thankful. I'm also convinced that you, Jack, John and co. are directly responsible for the growth of the sport. Are you going to be able to get on a board and race with us this year?
All the best!
-Miko
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FCR
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On 6/11/2003
hg
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Don -
As some of your comments are directed at me, I'll take the liberty of further cluttering Mike's forum with a response ...
1. I think it's fair to say that I have supported almost all of the events on the slalom race calendar at some level or another over the past 1.5 years, not the least of which were FCR events, and I look forward to continuing that support at some level.
2. I can't speak for the other vendors, but I'll wager that I have a substantially larger tax write-off than you for the expense of supporting the slalom "industry" in 2002.
3. As the 2003 race season unfolded, I did not get the same sense of commitment from FCR to race organization that we saw in 2002. However, your presense, along with John and Jack in support of Gary at Breck gave me a sense of renewed commitment and enthusiasm to the support of racing, and I was greatly encouraged to see this.
I truly meant no disrespect to what you have contributed to the sport, but I was concerned about your lack of visibility and accessibility. From your statements, it seems that my concerns were not well founded.
Howard
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Thanks Don
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On 6/11/2003
mike maysey
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I agree, FCR has most definately made some tremendous contributions to the sport as we know it. Without you guys, I don't think the sport would be enjoying any of the success it's seen in the past couple years. Thanks to Don, Jack, and John for putting up with all of us at the races. Lord knows we can be a handful! I come to the races to race. And hey, some of the courses were great and some were not the kind of courses I'd set for myself, but I skated and had fun anyway. Keep it up. I for one appreciate the time and effort you guys invest so this silly ass sport can continue.
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On 6/11/2003
Don O'Shei
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Hi Mike,
For some reason there has been a lot of off topic posting in your forum so unfortunaItely I have to compound the discourtesy by adding to that.
I guess I have to make a few points:
1. All prize money from last season has been paid out.
2. I believe anyone that posts anything controversial without providing his identity and a method for contacting him directly such as an email address is a coward. 99 you in particular are troubling because you are very critical but make it very difficult to assess your perspective because I have no idea who you are. Slalom Hack is a similar character.
3. I have no hard feelings against the ISSA or any particular style of course or any particular racer. Its all a market mechanism. If you don't like the FCR approach then don't race. If you don't like ISSA don't race. But there seems to be this need to tear the FCR series down by a lot of people. If you disagree with Arab fine but leave FCR out of it.
4. As to courses, I believe that FCR races have featured a great variety of courses. The only exception is that we haven't and won't do any flatland courses and we won't do any straight cone courses. It's just not our thing. I think that those things are fine in specialized events. For example I watched the Paris video and thought the Special Slalom was fine, the GS was interesting, the tight was probably fun to compete in but it was dull as dirt to watch. Thats not meant as a criticism its just my reaction.
5. Without the races put on by Jack, John and I and our associates Henry, Gary, Dennis and Steve there would be no sport of slalom in its current state. That includes every state of the art piece of equipment and every single contest being held either in Europe or the US. Unlike a lot of people in the industry FCR doesn't make a nickel off of any of this. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge those facts is not being honest about the history of the past 3 years. Give it some thought, how much of what you are doing now (including many great events on the east coast and in europe) is happening because of the energy that came out of FCR related events. You can like or dislike the fact but you have to respect it. And if you don't then that says more about you than about FCR.
6. So far this year FCR has done 2 races (plus a vert pro race/all around event) at Lake Elsinore in a tremendous venue, we have gotten a significant number of famous Pros onto slalom boards and racing (including Andy McDonald, Brian Patch and Omar Hassan). Done 2 very competitive Bank Slalom races in Albuquerque, the Bahne Slalomcross, 3 races in Breckenridge and are planning a 3 race event at Tahoe, 3 races at Morro Bay and 3 races at la Costa. Thats 17 races by my count.
7. We have gotten hardly a penny in sponsorship money from anyone.
8. Howard I expect from your posts that you weren't aware of all this activity and that we can count on your sponsorship support for the future races.
Don O'Shei
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Wobs and Breck...
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On 6/11/2003
Miko
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Andy... tighten up the rear truck a bit more than the front, so you get some steering, but more stability in the rear end. Softer bushings allow you to get things snug, but still get some turning. Keep that rear foot weighted. I've seen a lot of riders, unweight the rear end too much when throwing turns, and you can see their board jumping around trying to wob them off. If you still need to go faster get a set of Randall Downhills.
Mike and Kenny! I soooo wish I could have been there to kick both yer butts! (hahahahahahaha.) Sounds like it was epic racing. I'll be at the next one!
Mike and Gary: Any more thoughts on throwing down a north-south Norcal jam at GGP or Shoreline? I'd like to get some racing in!
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Stability
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On 6/11/2003 Andy
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I was wondering how i can stabalize my landyachtz chief w/Randal r2 180's. when i get to much speed it wobbles me off.
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Breck Head/Chest Cold
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On 6/11/2003
Kenny
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Mike- That was great racing you last weekend. I really never expected to do well this year and never thought I could beat you head to head. It was a goal to race you head to head some day and win. Thanks.
NOW- MY HEAD KILLS. I PICKED UP THE SAME BUG AND MY HEAD FEELS LIKE IT WEIGHS 100 pounds. It came on just after Bubba Gumps. I thought it was from Chuffin, laughing and generally being out of breath all weekend. Whatever it is, it sucks. I literally feel your pain.
I felt good till Sunday night at the hotel, or a least faked it till the race was over. I was so tired at the end of both the tight and GS.
It was a fun weekend. You have many wins in your future and I am sure we will meet again in the gates. You really brought out the best in me and thats what competition is all about. I was an honor to race you. I knew I was running fast, but that doesn't mean I worried as hell to face you.
Its cool because you and I both started racing at the same time, are Italian (Like Luca) and have "M" names. Great race weekend Mike- We BOTH kicked some ass.
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breck
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On 6/10/2003
mike maysey
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Well Hamm, I rode the Turner PD Super Skunk Proto on both Friday and Saturday. It's a very stiff ride. To look at it, it's reminicent of a Pistol, Ick, Roe, and Turner. Bear in mind however, that these boards that myself, PD, Sherm, Beau and Tiger were riding are protos so the final production boards will probably be somewhat different. I drilled it as long as I could with 24" from inner hole to inner hole. Overall length is 34" width is 9". I ran a Tracker RT-X in front with a Tracker RT-S offset in the rear. In the early rounds I rode Avalons around in 80 durometer. Right before my heat against the Brown Bomber, I switched my front wheels to 76 Avilas. I figured the number one qualifier was going to be the toughest heat of the day and that's the wheel setup he was riding. Fight fire with fire. I lucked out and won. Advancing to the final 4.
As for the tight race...I rode a White Turner Fullnose classic, made by Vince. PD was riding a weird little creation of his own that I later tried and have an order in on one for myself. I ran Cambrias in qual's and in practice just to make the course. Later, I switched to cutdown Avalons. The trucks I used were Tracker RT-X front and TTC rear...very loose trucks so I could make the course due to tough sections scattered throughout the course.
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Mike&Turner @ Breck
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On 6/10/2003
Hamm
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Wow, pushing was allowed?!? Very interesting. Seems like that would give some of the more 'solid' guys like RichyC and ARAB an advantage.
Mike, now that the cats out of the bag, can you tell us a bit about the new Turner board(s) & set ups you rode this past weekend?
Thanks
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Breck
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On 6/9/2003
mike maysey
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...what a weekend...as for the SlalomCross, I took myself out of the race early on due to the introduction of a rule that I hadn't anticipated and tried to capitalize on...the rule allowed pushing within the course and when I tried to do it in the round of 16 against Kosick, I lost my line and ended up having to bail out because I was headed for the fence and the splits. I decided to save myself for the final 2 events of the weekend and as luck would have it, I got into the final both days against a guy that was ON FIRE. Kenny, my hat is off to you for a truly outstanding performance this weekend. Somewhere during the trip I picked up a head cold or something. I can barely breath out of my nose, my head pounds with pressure and I just feel like crap all around right now. I thought it was something to do with the altitude, but now that I'm home, I think it might be something else.
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Mike @ Breck
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On 6/9/2003 Hamm
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Right on Mike!
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Japan Slalom Event
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On 6/9/2003 John Kim
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Hi John Gilmour,
A July slalom trip might coincide with my family trip to Japan. Keep me posted on the details, cause I like the sound of a Euro/Asia/America World Cup or at least getting it started.
John
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breck
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On 6/8/2003
david
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way to go mike, 2nd place in both GS and TS! no complete results are up yet, how did you do in the slalomcross? give us the low-down when you get back into the city
see you in SF
david
www.geocities.com/sk8sanfran
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and he races too!
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On 6/8/2003 tk
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Mike had a great weekend in Breck. Way to go Mike. TK
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Mars Candy & Skittles too...........
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On 6/7/2003
Rene' "Cannonball" Carrasco
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Brady,
A couple of years ago I emceed a skate 360 spin off
and freestyle skateboard championship in L.A. - that was sponsored by
Mars Candies and Skittles ! ! !
The reason I bring this up is that when good money was being paid out - by big sponsors - it brought out the BEST Freeestylers around ! One contestant even flew in from Sweden !
-Lillis Atkinssen won the freestyle-
-The 'Brown Bomber' won the 360 spin off.
I can't wait for big companies to back up slalom racing -
maybe like Chevrolet, Ford, Coca Cola, etc. - - - like they do for Surfing ! ! ! Slalom Racing is very worthy!
Gotta think positive!
It can AND will happen! Lord willing!
..................-Rene' "Cannonball" Carrasco.
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