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carver trucks
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On 1/29/2005
glenn
wrote in from
United States
(68.0.nnn.nnn)
has any one tried these trucks i got mine last week they are so fun there not like ordi ary trucks the back one is a standard truck but the front one has and another axis so u can do a u turn in the middle of the rhode but still keep your speed and if u want u dont have to pump with ur foot at all u can stand still and just pump like ur wur carving and ull pick up speed u get more speed each turn but i havent been able to ride them in the road yet since we got 3 feet of snow a week ago but iv been ripping through my basement nonstop the only thing from keeping you going is your leg muscles getting tired its great fun
(im not sure how to show pictures on this but im just gonna try)
http://www.carverskateboards.com/images/products/c1.jpg
http://www.carverskateboards.com/images/products/c1.jpg
heres the site where you can buy them these trucks are the ultimate cruising machines
http://carverskateboards.com/
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Dallas has it.. kinda
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On 1/26/2005 Matt
wrote in from
United States
(67.66.nnn.nnn)
Hey Lost Texan,
Glad to hear of another person getting into it. I too live in Dallas and just wanted to recommend an area to you. East of Dallas is Rockwall (over Lake Ray Hubbard) the way the town is set up causes the whole West side of Rockwall to flow downhill into the lake. Not many runs over a mile, but there are a few if you can navigate neighborhoods and cars well. Unfortunately some of the best runs are in a private gated community but it takes very little effort to still access them legally (kinda). Just practice up on your stopping ability as there are some steep hills and last thing needed is people getting hurt and downhill getting banned. But hope that helps ya out, maybe see ya sometime. Stay safe and have fun...
~Matt H.~
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100 lb. solution
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On 1/21/2005 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(69.161.nnn.nnn)
Nick, look for these bushings for your trucks; Khiro, White colored bushings. They're a super-soft bushing, and can get your trucks to turn very easily, very smoothly, and have good rebound(return to center,nice for quick turns). Other places you might find softer bushings would be through, of all places, Rollerskating Rinks. 'Quad' skates, the type used before inline rollerblades came to be, used natural Rubber bushings. These are quite soft, as rollerskates don'thave the leverage skateboards do on the trucks. If you get the "soft dance" type, you should be able to squeeze them in your fingers, they're that soft! Brands to look for would be Sure-Grip , Chicago, or Laser. Just be sure the size is close to what your trucks use, as some rollerskate trucks have really Tall bushings.
That brings to mind your question on kingpins. Yes, adding an extra 1/4 Inch of kingpin height will make a truck turn looser, but may make the kingpin/nut 'hang-up' in grinds or even just in catching an odd pebble on the road. Still, it's something to consider doing, but look at bushings that're softer first.
Much Luck! ;-)
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need help on carving
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On 1/21/2005
nick
wrote in from
United States
(204.108.nnn.nnn)
im about a hundred pounds and i want to cave hard but my king pin truck is at the very edge and that doesnt do much should i get a longer king pin
*im 12
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Tom's truck choices
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On 1/11/2005 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(69.161.nnn.nnn)
Tom, I've found that the Randals, while pretty sure-footed and predictable, are not the best for setting up a quick-turning board, especially if the wheelbase is fairly long. So, the Randals turn in at 45*, as do the steeper Seismics, but the Exate trucks, which are a 'torsion bushing' truck, are deeper leaning and have a bit quicker geometry. The thing with torsion trucks is that they work by twisting against the bushing, so they have a very surfy feel while turning, and lean pretty deep. The Seismics tend to work quite well when a 5* or 7* wedge is added underneath, which then puts the geometry at 50* or 52*. The Springs are adjustable at each corner, ie, you can have your front toe set soft while having the rear heel set stiffer, something no other truck can do. Meanwhile, if you like the Randals, but want a quicker steering action, add a wedge (or a steeper wedge if you have one already), but don't push it past 60* of pivot angle. Consider your bushings, and look for a more responsive, bouncier, maybe softer bushing combo.
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Labeda DH wheels
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On 1/11/2005 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(69.161.nnn.nnn)
Check out Sk8shop.ch for some Labeda wheels. Be sure to click on the English version,unless you speak Deutch. However, the wheels I was thinking of in my previous post are the wider Luge/Dh type. They're hard to find, but imho, worth seeking out. They're probably not as fast as the newer offerings from ABEC 11, but good stuff nonetheless.
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RE: Freecarving
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On 1/11/2005
3 Fingered Jack
wrote in from
United States
(192.35.nnn.nnn)
Which model Sector 9 were you using? I'd give S9 a call they're good folks and stand behind they're products. Try a platinum series board. I have a platinum series Bomber with Randall II 180's and Krytonic Classic K's. I've had no troubles. My opinion comes w/ the fact that I'm 6'2" and 250lbs+. The boards can't be that bad if they'll support my size/weight and sz13 gunboats.
Cheers,
3FJ
God rides a longboard.
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Labeda DH Whatnows?
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On 12/30/2004 Bilzo
wrote in from
United States
(24.167.nnn.nnn)
What are these wheels you mention and are the available anywhere?
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freecarving
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On 12/30/2004
bigbrofunky(bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.107.nnn.nnn)
The last board i had:
a sector 9. It was fine for free carving BUT when i took it to do some serious downhill it broke in half.
Its the second time it hapens to me.
My advise: never buy sector nine
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the recomended equipment for downhill carving
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On 12/30/2004
bigbrofunky(bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.107.nnn.nnn)
First: a large pintail
2nd:Randalls
3rd:Durometer 60 -70 wheels
4th:angled risers
ALWAYS:avec 7 bearings
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why do i prefer less turning
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On 12/30/2004
bigbrofunky(bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.107.nnn.nnn)
too much turning will give you sliding
In certain way this is good if you know how to use it for turns...but if you loose control just when youre in your maximum carving capacity (almost in the floor) and you slide when youre going too fast you could have certain injuries....................
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randalls
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On 12/30/2004
bigbrofunky(bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.107.nnn.nnn)
i think everithing depends more in your technique than in your tracks, eventhough i prefer randalls 180 mm
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turnier than randalls?
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On 12/23/2004 tom t
wrote in from
Canada
(64.228.nnn.nnn)
Hi PSR... I see in your reply to Lost Texan you recommend seismics and exkates as being "turnier". Is that true? I've never ridden either and though I REALLY love the randalls, I sometimes want to turn tighter than they seem to allow. The RII 180's aren't as quick as 150's I'm sure, but how would they compare to those you suggested?
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Landyachtz
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On 12/15/2004 BigbroFunky (Bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.4.nnn.nnn)
Ive been chekin LANDYACHTZ.COM avery cool page chek out the home picture is very cool.
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Some of mi pics
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On 12/15/2004 BigbroFunky (Bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.4.nnn.nnn)
Why doesnt people put more pics??
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freecarving in .................PERU?
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On 12/15/2004 BigbroFunky (Bernardo)
wrote in from
Peru
(200.4.nnn.nnn)
Hey, it isnt a section for donhill in peru
Bros` cum`on
Mi name is Bernardo Castañon.
I`ve seen some pics and i can beat you all
Soon youll be watching some of my big time carving.
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loaded
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On 12/6/2004
hack
wrote in from
United States
(24.24.nnn.nnn)
go check out loaded at www.loadedboards.com they have the best carving setup I've ever ridden. I see someone posted that they really liked their vanguard. the vanguard is a tight ass board if you've got a lot of speed, but if you're going to be cruising at all or on mellow grades I'd say go for a pintail. the pintail is one of the most responsive boards I've ever ridden and an incredible carver/pumper. also, go for the flexier board, those boards are so damn tough you'll never break it, and the flex makes the carveability so much greater.
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Dallas Cruisin'
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On 12/4/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(68.69.nnn.nnn)
Lost Texan, as I recall, there aren't any really steep hills in your area, but there are some longer runs with consistent pitch. With that, speed control or tight turning isn't a big factor, so look for boards that are longer (38" and up), but with good flex and 'pumpability'. Something like Landyatchz's Chief or Gravity's Hypercarve would do nicely. Camber isn't going to be a big factor, but a higher camber board that flexes well can propel itself along nicely, and still give you a deep turn when needed. Boards like Summit or Indiana, ones with layered glass/wood construction and camber fit that bill pretty well. For wheels, go with the 'steamroller' effect to carry speed, but keep 'em sticky. Avilas, Gumballs, Strykers, Flywheels and Labeda DH wheels are good choices, but they're all Big, in the over-70mm-class. If you need quicker turns, then look at 70mm wheels like Flashbacks or Avalons. With trucks, I'd go with Randal as a first choice, but turnier options would be Seismics or Exates.
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What would you do
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On 12/3/2004 Lost Texan
wrote in from
United States
(24.155.nnn.nnn)
yo, alright i gotta lil' problem, in the past year and a half i've been totally drawn into Snowboarding and Wakeboarding. problem is, i live in dallas texas, and its winter. theres no snow blessed hill to ride round here, and the boats been locked up and winterized. im aching to get bac on a board, and thought longboarding could be the remedy. so i wanna get into the sport, and was wondering what kind of deck i should be lookin at. i figured i should go with a carving board. am i on the right track? wut make or model is a good one to be looking at... i could really use the help, thanx
lost texan
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Not Psia
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On 11/18/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(24.53.nnn.nnn)
Trish, sounds like the Flashbacks will be a good thing overall. The board you have is maybe kinda like straight-sidecut 210's? To get it to turn a tighter arc, consider increasing the steering of the trucks. Khiro has steep wedged Risers which are 10*, where Gravity/Tracker wedges are around 6*-7*. That's an inexpensive 'tweak' for a board, and fairly easy to do. With the Flashbacks, you might also get more lean from the board, as the wheels won't be as likely to rub in turns. BTW, Please keep thinking of a Surfing Style!! It took many bloody years for my voice to be heard within Psia that Snowboarding came from Surfing, and "Style" is an inclusive element in Riding. If I wanted to look like a robot, I'd still ski, but luckily, it's been 27 years of Snowboarding instead! Best of all, I just switch from one type of Board to another as the Season dictates!
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havin' fun
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On 11/18/2004
trish
wrote in from
United States
(207.224.nnn.nnn)
Ok, I have taken the advice and I am trying not to analyze this to death. I love the board Troy. wouldn't give it up for anything. I kinda get a bit jealous when the fam. get on it. I decided that I don't want to cone out the Avilas so I bought some abec11 flashbacks 78a and tried those on for size. They definantly ride a bit different. I find them easier to slide but I really think the reason I don't get the big board around quick is because of my short legs hence, short stance. I will be looking at a few pintails for xmas.
But, I still can carve it big. I found virgin asphalt today. Nice slope with a dead end. Brand new neighborhood at linseys hill. Troy, you know the area. It was great. I almost regret that it will soon be covered with snow.
PSR, I loved your "PSIA" analogy given I was one a few years back. Gave it up for "PINS" I have taken your advice as well and it seemed a bit easier to turn out today. Acually I really never thought carving a board would be anything like turning a ski but it did help. However, I do like the sufer-style ride better. I just need to pull the stops and turn it! thanks and Ride on!
Trish
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Turning to stop
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On 11/17/2004 Troy
wrote in from
United States
(24.185.nnn.nnn)
Hey Trish.
I think what you're saying is that it's easier to slide to a stop when you're not going so fast.
True.
What happens when you are not going so fast is that you can lay the board into a slide by simply cranking it all the way over, it turns a little bit and then slides.
When you've got some speed going it is'nt that easy.
But it can be easy, it just takes a little more commitment and aggression.
Instead of turning until it slides (which you still can do if the road is wide enough), you need to JAMB that motha into a slide.
From straight down the fall line to sideways very quickly.
Something you could try that might make it easier is to make a slight turn in the opposite direction of the slide just before you crank it over.
For instance in my case I'm Goofy. If I want to make a heelside slide, just before I do that I'll make a quick, short turn to my left and then quickly crank it over in the opposite direction.
With those wheels this is not really that easy.
In fact you definately risk getting pitched but hey, no pain, no gain.
P.S. If I had know you were going to get so into it I would probably have sent something different.
I thought you would use it for the occasional coffee run or maybe dinking around at the park.
I did'nt realize you would be bombing and sliding hills.
Then again, learn to do it on that board and everything else will seem easy.
(unless of course you break yourself).
Please don't break yourself.
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Turns to Slow down
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On 11/14/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(24.53.nnn.nnn)
Trish, you've got two things going against ya in 'speed control' with your set-up. The board, it's Long, and the longer it is, the harder it is to bring it across the Fall-line. (I know this phenom well, as I will often Snowboard on a 200 cm Tanker-Not Slow!) The other is the Availas, which LOVE to carry Speed. Yes, they Grip like WOW, but they also Haul Cookies. Maybe Grippins? or Avalons? or Slower Bearings... Your truck choice is fine, just be sure your bushings match the 'turniness' you want without being too loose.
As for the 'hip-twist' query; Style is up to you, but from a bio-mechanical POV, you want to Counter-Rotate Early in a turn to absorb speed, and let your hip/torso 'look thru' the turn mid-to-late in the turn. This wind-up/release does cause timing problems, and worse can make you feel like a Ski-Instructor (Gee,just like PSIA does it), so it ranks kinda low on my 'style' rating. A good way to make it happen 'in a flow' is too look from one side of the road, down the road,pause, then look across to the other side of the lane. Even look Back Up the hill for a second on toeside turns (helps you look for traffic,too) to deepen the turn. A cool thing with the 'wind-up/unwind' bit is that you can coil up when low to the board, and use the 'twist' to initiate a slide, which can burn off some speed if needed.
In 'technique' (almost style,well,almost), what I strive for is keeping my inside arm/shoulder uphill of me, letting the outside arm/shoulder 'reach' for the board a bit. You see this often in Slalom racing, and racers do it to get better turning leverage. The other thing is to, as you already noted, stay 'loose', and get low, in the heart of the turn. If you're stiff, you'll speed up. Keeping it 'soft' means you can absorb the turn as you cross the fall-line. If you're keeping loose, you also have ability to slide early in a turn, which should give you more road to work with in crossing the hill. If you haven't finished a turn by the middle of the road, that's bad, and you'll gain speed on the next set. Sliding will likely be needed soon thereafter. So, look ahead, then look Across the road, finish the turns earlier than later.
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turning to stop
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On 11/14/2004
trish
wrote in from
United States
(207.224.nnn.nnn)
ok, I have a burning question. I have been practicing slide-stops and footbraking on small roll-out hills(mostly so I don't burn out walking back up) and because I seem to not be able to get tight enough turns to turn up and out at speed. The faster I go the harder it gets to turn. It seems to me to be a natural thing to do but guess I am not natural! And I do get speed wobbles but I manage those by applying more pressure up front and relax my ankles. So is turning at speed a hip-rotation thing or what? can't see to find the groove. I want so badly to ride a few longer hills and be able to contol my speed. I love the way it feels to carve and I want to be able to do it farther. I ride a 56" with r-2's 180 and soft avilas.
Ya swooper, I do live in the pc area and I will scope things out. I too really don't care what age we all are. I have been hitting the parks a lot lately and there are the nicest kids who think a "skateboard mom" is cool. I have been having a blast. I think maybe my weird work schedule can get in the way sometimes to skate with friends. oh well. The tetons are gorgous and we will keep that in mind for a family trip this year. In the meantime, enjoy the snow!
ride on!
Hey Troy are ya still around?
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age? what age?
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On 11/13/2004
swooper
wrote in from
United States
(69.20.nnn.nnn)
Trish, I'm 51 and have had a great time with everyone I've met on the Targhee hill, grey beard and all. If age isn't an issue with you, I don't think it will be with the younger riders. I really enjoy hanging with them! Let's face it, most skateboarders are younger than us and it's not a bad thing.
You mentioned being at Park City, I'd like to hear about any good long fresh asphalt there. Maybe you can get up to the Tetons next season, check my description of Ski Hill Road by searching the Riding Locations forum for "Targhee". There's a few dozen regulars and usually you'll find someone on the hill. Amy, Christine, Candace, Danielle, and Amanda are regulars.
I'm riding decks of 54 and 60 inch length and feel they're really easy to slide. The long wheelbase allows a comfortably wide stance with the rear foot a foot or more ahead of the rear truck. It's easy to unweight the rear truck, and the long wheelbase slides more predictably than shorter decks. They both turn quickly with 180 R-2's. Just one opinion, people seem to adapt to and prefer all different lengths.
And, I got out today for several runs. It felt so good! I'm definitely into freecarving for the long haul. Have a great winter everybody!
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