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PSR
On 4/20/2007 nic wrote in from United States  (65.44.nnn.nnn)

thats cool. i always see you giving advice on many topics, so your kinda like the ncdsa dad or uncle that always gives good advice

 
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everywhere?
On 4/19/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (208.5.nnn.nnn)

NO Nic, just in those spots I'm concerned with.

Freecarving is one of my personal faves, and Adam probably had my diatribes in mind when this became it's own 'topic'.

I've been chatting it up here on NCDSA for 9+ years. In that time, i've made a few hundred new, friendly accquaintanes, and more than a few friends as well, plus my skating has improved!

A website like this is a great thing. The ideas and advice, plus just the entertainment value of the "crashing" section make this the place I try to get to on my lunch breaks...
I just wish I typed with both hands... ;-)

 
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dang PSR
On 4/18/2007 nic wrote in from United States  (65.44.nnn.nnn)

man your every where on ncdsa!!!! do you post on every section?

 
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Truckin'
On 4/18/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (208.5.nnn.nnn)

Ronald, Randals are great, especially if price is an issue. They have small problems, such as the washers on the kingpin being cheap, and the bushings aren't the greatest, but those are easily replaced. Gullwing, Holey and a few others are offering similar trucks using the kingpin/pivot angles that Randal pioneered. Trucks like Revenge are 'torsion' type, and tend towards being more manuverable, having a looser surfy feel. But these, such as Exate, Baku, and revenge always have had bushing wear and replacement issues, plus none have had the ability to really 'bomb' hills at fairly high speeds without feeling unstable.If you're looking for quck response and great 'pumping' energy, look also at Seismic. These though take a little getting used to, as the springs return to center like nothing else on the market, and thus can be awkward if you slide to control your speed.
So, no truck is perfect, but at least with Randals, you can 'upgrade' them with common parts, usually for less than $10 extra per pair.

 
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the best trucks
On 4/18/2007 nic wrote in from United States  (65.44.nnn.nnn)

get the randals there a great carving truck and if you tighten them a bit they can bomb any hill with confidence. get the 180s if you have some thing longer than 38 inches. and the 150s for any thing smaller

 
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which is better or tell me something better
On 4/16/2007 ronald wrote in from United States  (69.110.nnn.nnn)

hey do u think i can get ome help , well my names ronald an im sort of new to the world of longboarding . well ok my question is what trucks do u guys think are the best? my close buddy told me that the revenges are the way to go but my brother told me randalls are cheap and the best so far , can u guys shead some light on this for me thnx

 
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My new home!
On 4/12/2007 Jimmy Flindt wrote in from United States  (75.16.nnn.nnn)

This is my new home, FREECARVING! hell yah. I am anti-RACING SKATEBOARDS from now on. I want back the feeling I had before I knew there was EDI. I never went 20 feet before turning and that is what it is all about for me, FREECARVING!

 
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on snow
On 4/10/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.69.nnn.nnn)

This is a snippet of CMC and myself (a few friends as well) at Stratton a few years back. I'm the one on the 182cm that carves switch for a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tFfG_qbdPo

This is why I try to keep my carving skills sharp in the summer! ;-D

 
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zach b
On 3/23/2007 nic wrote in from United States  (65.44.nnn.nnn)

dont use those sidewinders for slalom. its a dumb idea and there too wide so but some trackers or if you got money splitfires

 
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Sidewinders
On 3/19/2007 Zach B wrote in from United States  (67.176.nnn.nnn)

hey, i have a set of sidewinder trucks, they are sick, but are they okay for tight slolam racing? if you go too fast on those trucks they wobble badly.

 
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Sidewinders
On 3/15/2007 HD wrote in from Japan  (221.170.nnn.nnn)

I am looking for Sidewinder trucks to buy on the net. Does anybody know where I can buy on the net?

 
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sidewinder bushings
On 1/19/2007 David wrote in from United States  (24.113.nnn.nnn)

thanks for the advice ya'll , i turned some bushing of my own, and wow are they crazy... took some industrial urathane chunks and went at it... not pretty, but they do the job like nothing else. thanks for the advice on how to do this PSR.

 
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Sidewinders and speed
On 1/19/2007 A.Williams wrote in from Dominican Republic  (200.88.nnn.nnn)

David,
One extra trick for getting more stability from a Sidewinder is to add an extra 1" bushing washer to the top bushing of the sidewinder insert. You install this 1" washer ON TOP of the small stock washer. The large bushing is intended only to act as a CLAMP, and not to retain the bushing. As the Sidewinder insert is tightened farther and farther, according to the speed you want to ride, the effect of the insert, which gives the Sidewinder it's EXTRA turning capabilities, is reduced. The extra washer, in a very tightend state, actually contacts both sides of the insert, clamping and significantly reducing the inserts movement.

If you really need even more stability...throw another 1" washer on the upper bushing of the hanger, likewise, on top of the stock smaller bushing washer. This should give you maximum stability. One note: some bushing washers are thicker than others, so choose the strongest and thickest you can find! If the washers are too weak they'll be deformed easily and won't function as well.

 
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Sidewinder bushings[?]
On 1/10/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

David, check out Khiro's bushing kits, as they're set up to let slalom racers 'pick+choose' from what's in the pack.
I don't think Radikals will fit the lower base without being 'spun down' to fit (like the step on a Stimulator), but that's easy to do; just put a knurled kingpin into your drill-chuck with the bushing near the bolt head, and another, conical buashing slipped on [to snug against the drill chuck],tighten with the bushings snugged up to the chuck jaws, and spin on a low speed while putting a bastard file to the bushing you want to shape. It takes maybe 5-7 minutes to turn a Radikal into an oversized conical, or less to make it a psuedo-stimulator. These could be very interesting on Sidewinder..

 
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Sidewinders
On 1/10/2007 David wrote in from United States  (24.113.nnn.nnn)

thats exactly what they are... the sidewinders. i tossed a pair of stiff rubbers on the bottom set on the front, and hards on the top. semi stiffs on the back top and left the stock mediums on the bottom... the front is rather tight with a slim wedge on the right side (levels the board for how i ride when carving) i have had it up to about 25 with limited wobble... i have had a chance to ride the set up now and i dont think pushing it past 35 would be the best idea. none the less very responsive and fun to ride. the bushings are still trial and error... anyone that has a decent idea of a good set up would be awesome, im about 6'2 245 so heavy bushings are in order...

 
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Gullwing
On 1/6/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

David, are you talking about the Sidewinder truck? I didn't know they could be set-up to be 'stable'...

 
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Why Looser trucks
On 1/6/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

Ratking, it's a matter of preferrence, really, and your terrain or style inspirations will dictate how 'loose' loose is.
Some basic conceptual guidelines; Looser up front will be better at speeds beyond that which you can Run (though the faster you go, the more resistance you'll likely want, just to avoid the Wobbles). This also is the turning style you'll see from Slalom racers.
Looser at the rear will be more 'surfy' in feel, and works well on flatter terrain, as well as for moves like Hanging Ten or 'walking' the board.
Having both about equal is good in Urban areas or for steeper places where slides are needed for speed control.
For my, ahem, "style", I use a stiffer rear truck, and alter it's turn rate by wedging the riser so that the thick end is towards the rear. This makes the rear wheels take a wider line than the front, and slightly stiffer tension adds to the stability. Up front, I'll use a wedge, this time thin end towards the nose, which gives that truck a tighter turn arc, and I'll often run softer bushings as well, to improve the turn-in response. These set-up changes are to help re-create the turning dynamics I used Snowboarding. Granted, in Surfing or Snowboarding, I can get WAY far further up on the rail/edge as compared to the tilt of a skateboard, but the turns 'feel' pretty close to what I get while in/on H2O.

 
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exate, randal...
On 1/6/2007 David wrote in from United States  (24.113.nnn.nnn)

its been awhile since i have had time to check back... thanks for the advice on the randals, with a little fine tunning they are amazing now. i also got a new pair of gullwings for christmas, however iv'e yet to find the name of the truck. they have a double king pin system that with some rubber stiff bushings carv like a torsion truck but handle the speed of a 150 with only an extra quarter inch in added ride height. if you can find them, buy them. i also have a pair of exkates trucks supposedly in the mail.. after three weeks they still have yet to leave their werehouse.

 
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Loosen front/rear trucks
On 1/6/2007 ratking wrote in from Australia  (202.76.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for your reply and the good advice! i ended up getting a pretty bargain 40" one but it doesn't seem to have any brand names on it at all! Let's just say it's 'good for beginners'. I had my first ride and it was really fun, loosened up the trucks a bit. Is it better to have looser front trucks or visa versa?

 
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Ratking
On 1/5/2007 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

That 'upward flex' you're talking about is "camber", or an arch in the deck that, if properly weighted, becomes flattened, and also is a 'leaf spring' that will provide thrust thru a turn when 'unweighted'. A board with this needs to flex in response to the rider's Strength + Weight, and flex only so far. Decks like 'Flexdecks' tends towards being too soft, and thus feel "mushy" to aggresive carvers. Boards that are too stiff, say a 'Loaded' that rated for a heavy rider, would probably Not Flex, or when it did, it would Bounce, and buck You OFF. So, in looking at Camber, understand that you want only a little, but at stiffness that fits your weight, and the aggressiveness of your riding style. Since you also slide, I'd go a little stiffer than your 55kg, and I'd look for concave, wheel wells, and pick the width that's above 22cm. Skinny , non-concave boards with Camber are good for Slalom, not Slides. Please, look carefully at a Comet Scramjet, Sector Nine Trilam, or Loaded Fish, as these all have camber, but also are built to not overflex. BTW, Rockered boards also Flex, thus are much like Cambered boards, but with a smoother feel to the flex, and lower center-of-gravity, thus are Sweet for Slides, but yet will still Pump a turn. Add Barfoot to the 'look-see' list...

 
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New board
On 1/4/2007 Ratking wrote in from Australia  (202.76.nnn.nnn)

I'm thinking of getting into longboard skating, and am looking for a board for carving,slides and basic transport. I've found a nice standard looking board, about 40", and which flexes upwards quite a lot. How do boards like these go? I weigh only 55kg - not planning to grow - and am wondering if its made for someone more heavy?

 
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Riding on a Saturday
On 12/9/2006 Mark Jeangerard wrote in from United States  (67.42.nnn.nnn)

Not sure which section this goes in, but here's a little shot of a pretty productive Saturday here in central New Mexico. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axwk3tLznK4

 
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Winter Riding
On 11/29/2006 Court wrote in from United States  (161.57.nnn.nnn)

So I just bought some slide wheels and put together some gloves. I was just looking to get into sliding, and as it would turn out it's supposed to start snowing tomorrow for about the next week. Still want to get out, anybody ride through snow, or just in the winter in general?

 
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Revenge,Extate,Randal
On 11/22/2006 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

David, with the torsion-type trucks, you'll get a slightly deeper lean than with Randals. Revenge has (imho) a better thought out bushing system, where the bushings don't get the over-stretching that Exates are prone to. However, that comes at the cost of getting that extra 4* or so of deep-lean turn that make Exates so nice on bigger boards. The twist that allows for deeper, smooth turns burns out bushings on torsion trucks, especially if you're diggin' deep to deal with a steep fall-line. You may even notice heat build-up at the bottom of a run. Also, one strike against torsion trucks is the fairly harsh ride, but that's easily countered with rubber risers.
Have you tried using longer kingpins and softer bushings in Randals? Just a thought, as with a softer bushing kit, some extra height in the bushings, and maybe a nudge in the wedging, Randals might yet still get a deeper, easier, tighter turn than you've felt in the past, if you're running fairly stock Randals.
Another truck, one I haven't gotten onto but that seems like it would have potential, might be the new Gullwing Sidewinder? Also, maybe keep an eye out for Nuclear Pickle trucks.

 
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truck comparison
On 11/22/2006 David wrote in from United States  (24.113.nnn.nnn)

i have been riding for going on five years now and so far randals have done the trick, stable at high speeds, semi carvable and just fun to ride. however recently i have gotten into carving more, with more relaxed speeds. this is where i have hit a road block. randals just dont cut it anymore. i have seen some of the newer designs and like what i see both from revenge and exkate.
can anyone possibly help me figure out which would be better, the up sides/ down side of both, or perhaps anoter company even?

 
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