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PSR
On 5/8/2004 CKnuck wrote in from (69.156.nnn.nnn)

Eric e-mail me.

It bounced back when I tried to e-mail you.

tks

 
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freebord
On 4/19/2004 bones wrote in from (217.43.nnn.nnn)

had a great freebord session today,they are a weird beast to ride and very different to a longboard,good fun tho,i ride mine with 85mm kryps and 66mm centres to smooth out the rough tarmac here in the uk.

 
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Freeboard
On 4/14/2004 PSR wrote in from (68.69.nnn.nnn)

My issue with the Freeboard is that simulates a SLIDING turn,not CARVING. If your local hills have good smooth tar(unlike the roads here in Vermont),and you want to carve smoothly with no worries about speed,look into a FLOWLAB. What I found with the Flowlab was a distinct lack of grip on the outer wheels(they're 88A Rollerblade type),and you're only on four (max) at any one time.However,putting softer 'Goalie' inline wheels solved the grip issue a bit,and made for smoother ride overall.Flowlabs aren't 'cheap',but are worth the money if carving is your style.They're a tad tippy at first,so keep the ankle loose. Tierney Rides are another great deep+steep carver,and they can be fitted with either Rubber or Urethane wheels.They are even 'tippier' than a Flowlab,but steer very well. Hugh R. has a good review of these boards up on his site,which is in the "links" section on ncdsa.

 
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freeboard
On 4/13/2004 abe wrote in from (24.218.nnn.nnn)

I've ridden a freeboard a couple of times and I think if you are an intermediat rider this is not the board for you. The third wheel may make it easier to slide around but you will slide to much and end up turning 180 degrees and going down the hill switch. Also the third wheel makes every other type of skating harder. When your carving it is much eaisier to slide out. Now this might only be tru with people who are used to longboards but if you have not been riding that long the freeboard might be easier to get used to. So basically what I'm saying is if you like the feel of longboards and that is what your used to don't get a freeboard but if you don't really like the feel of longboards or you are not really used to longboards or want to try something different go ahead and get one. I think their king of expensive though, some thing like $300 or $350

-abe

 
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freeboard
On 4/11/2004 paul charlebois wrote in from (64.230.nnn.nnn)

anyone use a Freeboard. (third wheel on front and rear trucks). This third wheel allows you to slide the board on heel edge to slow down.As a intermediate rider I find it hard to slow down on very steep terrain. How hard is it to slide this Freeboard sideways?
thanks
Paul

 
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NZ hill bombing
On 3/29/2004 Brett wrote in from (203.97.nnn.nnn)

Yo all, hey from New Zealand...
Go the hill bobmbing, we hit our hills in my town all over, they dont look as smooth or as clear of cars as photos i have seen on this web site, but hey.
Night time bombing is the best... not as many cars, but way more sketchy where there is less light... we have a frequent little bomb section thats got perfect tarmac, but no lights at night and bush covering so no moon light... its adeptly named death valley... as the road and where the edges are cant be seen, it emerges out onto a short rough section then out along a slight flat... great fun! Do you people have problems with what we call "boy racers" people who are young males mainly with fast cars and fast attitudes... they love to aim for us skaters.. bastards. What do people ride? mostly long boards? I ride a blacklabel redcross, indy trucks, blacklabel 60mm wheels, abec5 bearings... i getsome mean speed:) and the best bit its just so dam fun!!
Skate on...
Brett - DHW crew.

 
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MissouriMatt,wheelwells
On 2/10/2004 John Dillon, Team Fun wrote in from (151.200.nnn.nnn)

Yea, I've noticed that too....so I enlarge my wheelwells myself, when necessary.

 
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Bushings
On 2/3/2004 Symmetric Skate wrote in from (68.2.nnn.nnn)

To fix your problem get the Khiro Insert bushings. Check out the feedback at the vendors corner of this site. You can see pictures of Insert Bushings at www.symmetric-skate.com.

Ride on!
Brian @ Summetric Skate

 
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Snowboarding
On 1/26/2004 Cknuck wrote in from (64.230.nnn.nnn)

Hey Eric! Just figured I'd let you know I've finally been out snowboarding 3 times since the new year and it's been great.

I'm really sorry it took so long for me to get to try it. I wish I had a chance to get to see you for a weekend but the sk8park is keeping us pretty busy and the income from the sk8classes and camps are making ends meet.

I'll see you around this year. Take Care.

C

 
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Sqeaky Bushings (not really skatecar stuff)
On 1/25/2004 PSR wrote in from (24.53.nnn.nnn)

DOH! Shane,I should've seen that one coming,as my dad was a mining engineer for J+J talcum powder,and skating in the mill's lot,my board's didn't ever squeak,although they certainly did slide!

 
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Bushing noise
On 1/24/2004 Shane wrote in from (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Hey Tom, try some baby powder on your bushings,it works pretty good and it doesnt couse problems like sprays and grease.
later.

 
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Bushing lube
On 1/20/2004 PSR wrote in from (24.53.nnn.nnn)

Tom,Yup! WD-40 can chemically attack some plastics.You should consider pulling the bushings off your trucks and washing them with some dishsoap in warm water to take the oil off.I use spray silicon as a bushing lube(helps with some squeaks),and sometimes white Lithium grease(good in pivot cups),both should be available at hardware stores or car parts shops.

 
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wd40
On 1/20/2004 tom wrote in from (64.162.nnn.nnn)

im 13 and just got a landyachtz board after having a sector 9. i put a little bit of wd40 on the bushings of my landyachtz and my turning has increased dramatically, although im wondering if the wd40 will rot my bushings. if my bushings do rot there is a potential crash waiting 2 happen, isnt it?

 
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Not sure....
On 1/12/2004 PSR wrote in from (24.52.nnn.nnn)

Keith,you're likely right where ya ought to be,forum wise.I've been using pool boards with big sticky wheels for quite a awhile,riding pretty much the way you describe.I had listed a bunch of my rides that I use for 'freecarving',some have distinct slalom overtones(really,I only change wheels and bushings),some are boards that're longer(Cruiser class?),but I'd still take (with a wheel change)into a bigger 1/2 pipe or bowl (My 36" Barfoot,similar to a re-issue Yardstick),while other boards I use are 'specialized' for the use of carving turns,often these will be cut-down snowboards,although now quite a few companies make boards that are quite similar(Loaded for example). Bombing hills is really practice for Downhilling,and swerving turns everywhere becomes Slalom in a sense.But working a hill to just keep a flow,work on styling it,and keep your speed down to a comfortable pace is how I'd define freecarving.I relate it directly back to Snowboarding,where I'm working the hill for G-Forces,trying not to Slide,and looking for a cool set of lines down the road.The old forum here was called 'soul carving',and it does ring true as a description still.I might be a tad more 'technical' in my style,but again that comes back to my snowboarding(I like riding bigger boards,170cm to 200cm,just laying over in my arcs on fresh groomed snow),so it's a cyclical thing to me.There's more oppurtunity for advancing your personal skill level carving on a skateboard,simply because the tar dosen't change like snow conditions do.The bummer is you can't lean over as far.. In working my way down a good hill I like to see just how steep I can ride without resorting to sliding while keeping my speed in check(not that sliding dosen't happen,or shouldn't..).the other challenge is to see how fast I can carve (on hills with a good runout) again without sliding out. One other thing to note: Wheelbase,wheel+truck set-up,and board flex are all intertwined in just how well your board will turn at speed.I've found that certain combos work on certain types of hills,or for a particular turn size/shape.Changing that equation underfoot can totally change your line even on a familiar run.Play with your ride's setup,or grab a different size board,and see what happens.

 
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downhill
On 1/10/2004 kenneth giddings wrote in from (67.24.nnn.nnn)

I rule at downhill skating I need a sponsor and would like to start a career out of my talent. I am not sure there is a venue for my style skating (new school deck with big kryptonic wheels)

 
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crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On 12/6/2003 no one wrote in from (67.0.nnn.nnn)

so if you answer this crap you are crap.


never post on his thread again. for real. , lets keep it real.

 
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What the crap????
On 12/6/2003 Tony wrote in from (67.0.nnn.nnn)

What is the diference between Soulcarving, Freecarving, Ditchriding, Longboarding?


answer---- Not a damn thing !


so why does NCDSA have so many different topics???????

Isnt skating, skating????? this is so retarded.

 
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super cruser roads
On 12/5/2003 James West wrote in from (198.59.nnn.nnn)

I'm a 14 year old rider and I am happy with what I've found in the sport but more like soul. Ive found that I love the high speed carving and bombing and the juciy ditches we have here in the great land of New Mexico. but that's not why I'm here I've come to tel about the roads by the ditches i found them wile searching for the Indian school ditch. It is a super nice road all newly paved and curvy. It's about a mile long and there are no cars if you get there between 7 and 10am the roads are on tramway and just to the left of rover all theese roads are jucie but the best one is san frando

So what are you waiting for go skate

 
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thanks
On 12/3/2003 richard wrote in from (82.33.nnn.nnn)

MisourMatt, thanks a lot for the info, sounds like you have your set-up pretty dialled. i hadn't really considered exkates but i have heard good things so i'll look into them, i don't know of an english importer though. i looked up your deck too, it's pretty close to what i'm after. check http://www.fibretec.ch/main.html for some nice looking boards. regarding wheel wells / cut-outs i think some manufacturers design them with a specific truck in mind but some e.g. sector 9 do seem to line them up with the bolts/axles

 
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tight carve
On 12/2/2003 MissouriMatt wrote in from (128.206.nnn.nnn)

Richard,
I've got a Freeride Senorita Lovejoy (37.5 inch 11-ply baltic birch) with Exkate Torsion 101 trucks and 70mm 78a ABEC 11 Flashbacks. It opens up the narrow roads and sidewalks and gives tight, tight turns on big hills without sliding. I was sorry to see that the Freeride line of decks is pretty much gone. Bareback handled them for a while, but they are now Stolenboards.com and they didn't realy keep much of the freeride line. Those were sweeeet decks... the Crosstown, Marvin, Bowlrider, Jake, Lovejoy, Lucky Joe, Ike... time moves on. They're making something like the Crosstown, but it's maple now, not birch.

Regarding your choice... I'd say stay around 37 or 38 inches with 11-ply birch on a model with lots of wheel room and put on the Exkate 101's. The Exkate Torsion truck is stable at high speed and makes every street in town feel like it's covered in a foot of water. It is the smoothest buttery carving machine out there. Once you get use to the tight turning and fluid feel you won't want to ride other trucks. If you use a center set wheel, like the ABEC 11 Fly's, I'd go with the Torsion 201.

http://www.exkate.com/ecom/stores_app/Browse_dept_items.asp?Store_id=129&Page_id=17&categ_id=2&parent_ids=0

My two cents. Any deck you're riding is a good one.

One other note about decks in general. Is it just me or do deck designers have no idea where wheel bite happens? I'm always seeing cut out wheel wells that line up with the truck axel. You carve, the axels move to the center of the board on the inside rail and the bite happens several inches from the original line of the axel. Don't buy a deck for the cut outs unless they've got them properly placed. If you ride Torsion trucks with big wheels the cut outs will matter.

 
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new set-up
On 11/30/2003 richard wrote in from (80.235.nnn.nnn)

O.K. so i've decided to set-up a board for tight carves on big hills, something that will carve hard enough for me to start taking on narrower steep sections without needing to slide. i'm thinking controlled, precise carving, similar to snowboarding a steep powder run. a set-up i can push hard on my back foot and the carve just gets tighter, like my single fin. i'm thinking along the lines of narrowish seismics, avalons (maybe softer in the rear)set up on a comet street slalom / wefunk custom / pumpkin or similar - anyone heard of fibretec boards? the cROCO 880 looks like a nice shape. haven't thought too hard on deck dimensions yet - maybe 36-40 inches. anyway if anyone has ridden/owns one of the above i would really appreciate some feedback or some new ideas to mull over! thanks.

 
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Photos
On 11/25/2003 PSR wrote in from (24.52.nnn.nnn)

Tony,nice stuff! You deserve an 8.3,9.0,and an 8.5(tough grab at speed)respectively! BTW,I used to Judge Snowboard 1/2 Pipe events for the VSSA and ISF here in New England,so the scores are legit.Of course,this IS Freecarving,so,actually,the scorecard dosen't ever exist except in one's imagination. And this means that I'm Still Searching for that "perfect turn". ;-)

 
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Thanks
On 11/25/2003 jerry wrote in from (67.24.nnn.nnn)

Nice ditch. Looks fun.

 
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Carving
On 11/25/2003 henry wrote in from (172.176.nnn.nnn)

tony, buck off with your soulful, blue skied, mellow carving shots. you're making me jealous. you've been carving for days? it's been raining for days here.

 
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Carving
On 11/24/2003 Tony wrote in from (67.0.nnn.nnn)

Jerry, there is carving, and then there is carving for days.



 
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