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Skitching
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On 7/7/2005
Skitch
wrote in from
United States
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Why skog when you can skitch!
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Shoes
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On 7/1/2005 Rich-ohio
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United States
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I have found that nike has accually put together some halfways decents shoes for skateing (check skatewarehouse.com or something) and I have accually liked the Puma "quikk trimm", they are a crossover from a turf soccer shoe to a casual shoe, but they have tons of grip and come to the aid of the athlete-turned-skater. The puma's become more comfortable the more you wear them too, I have 3 pairs of fresh sneakers but still rock my smelly beat puma's.
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pumpers delight
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On 6/29/2005 Stoked
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I just wanted to say thanx for all the advice on pumping to everyone here.
I spent hundreds of dollars and hours perfecting my pump, what I found after dialing in my technique was that I wanted more from my equipment, this is where the $$$$ comes in. I bought a motherload of wheels in different duros by several manufacturers(Abec11, Manx, Krypto, 3DM, Sector9 to name a few), At the end of the day I found the best wheel for speed and grip was the Manx 69 84a.
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Original S6's / shoes
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On 6/27/2005 vaitus
wrote in from
United States
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yeah the gs has lots of camber which might at times get in the way, especially if you weigh 155lbs. Problem solved with a footstop, an old gravity foam kicktail which is both easy to install, safe and effective. I have wondered too if
a similarly shaped deck with no camber would be better, but this set up is so much fun to pump that I'm going to leave it as is. def not for skogging though. funny you mention seismics cause I had some 130mm (which you should know about...) on the gs before switching to an rt-s/x combo. of all the 3 set ups this was the one with the most traction, but also the least pumpable (relatively speaking), but I'm sure that was me.
NYCAS (New York City Asphalt Surfer), :), interesting qs about long distance skating shoes, how about some good hi tops with a quality insert soles, maybe with gel? I'd like to see what the resident skoggathonists (!) have to say about this.
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Original S6's
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On 6/27/2005
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
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...on a Bozi Gs36, eh? My BGS36 currently has 155mm Seismics and 74mm75a flywheels on it, but the OG's are an interesting call.
The Bozi GS has quite a bit of camber, so for a pump board that you can also skog, I'd prefer something a little bit flatter. I was going to do a drop-thru on my Powerhouse Roadboard (Jester model), but it's a tad too flexy for a serious speedboard.
I put my OG6's on it, and with just a little bit of riser (1/2 that of the stocker OG risers), both Gumballs and Avilas clear with no possibility of wheelbite. So I've got me a flat funky-looking "iron-cross" shaped deck that's a little lower and has a tad bit of flex under my 195#.
C.Yandall: I just couldn't put the OG's on the 38 special. That's getting a Seismic/Randal/Tracker-type combo. Oh, and I'll most likely be riding my CYa 34" Wreckreational Kruzer in the GS at Hood River with either Avalons or Grippins. Gumballs or Avilas if I wanna go too fast and miss cones. Yeee-Haw!
-=S=-
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Recommended shoes for Pumping and/or Skogging...
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On 6/27/2005 New York City Asphalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
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To be quite honest, I'm still learning to "skog" and find it to be quite difficult. Anyway, I'm skating between 6 to 10 miles per day and finding that my current skate shoes -- Fallen Rivals -- to be quite grippy, but less than ideal for long-distance skating. The good thing about the Fallen shoes is that they are synthetic and seem to be quite rugged -- although the soles seems to be wearing away swiftly. I tried an old pair of Asics 1080 running shoes, but found them to be a bit too thick and not grippy enough. I know that there is a lot of hype when it comes to shoes -- especially skate shoes -- but as an ex-runner, my knees will loudly complain about cheap, Payless shoes.
Also, has anyone ever come up with a skateboard storage compartment? You know, a place to put your wallet and keys?
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originals s6
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On 6/26/2005 vaitus
wrote in from
United States
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the topic has already been covered but I want to add my $0.02 now that I'm riding them.
They do really pump like crazy! Even though they don't feel as good as trackers with double stims they're far more efficient for the task. Along with some 81a grippins they've turned bozi gs into a pumping machine. Now that I've put a footstop, slalom style, I can pump, better say gyrate, the flats and some very mild inclines for as long as my body allows me to. It feels so weird going back to conventional trucks after these.
Traction in ther rear is a different story...but you can't have everything. The traction losses are extremely predictable and easy to control though. Probably these are the best trucks for stand up slides.
Back on subject, the wider s10 could be the sh@t for surf style one sided pumps on a deck like the bozi mb2 or a gravity hyper carve, anybody tried them?
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pumping and pushing
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On 6/20/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
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Sounds like a was a blast any way you skated it James!
We had our annual seawall cruise on Saturday here in Vancouver and probably 150 longboarders were out. Though I did see a bit of good pumping now and then mostly the skaters just blasted along kicking and setting a scorching pace. Most didn't bother switching sides, just tore along the pathways stoked by the presence of so many skaters all riding together.
I was impressed by the fast pace and though I do 10 km's regularily and the occasional 20 km cruise, I found that I was relatively slow compared to most of this energetic group. And I found that my pumping needs a lot of work still as I ended up relying on kicking (regular and switch for me to keep things balanced and optimize both sides of my body because it was faster than pumping).
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solstice pumping and pushing
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On 6/20/2005
peters
wrote in from
United States
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hey airin, the entire burke gilman trail is completely pump-able, at least that's been our theory and this year Munson has proven it correct! His approach on the solstice was a complete no-touch ride and he almost nailed it. My goals were 1. to get more people racing, and 2. to go for a consistent MPH and blast the whole thing whichever method works best at the time - probably 10-20% of the trail requires pushing if you want to keep up a fast clip.
The best thing was seeing some new guys hit the trail, one of which had rode with me only one time previous -- its great to see more people stoked. Most bailed because distance seems daunting, but the weekend sessions are a good way to discover that 10-12 miles is entirely do-able after a couple times! Hope we can get out on a ride or two prior to July 31 event, the weekend rides are really where the soul of this thing is. -jp
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soltice skate?
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On 6/19/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
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So how did the Soltice Skate turn out? How many skaters were there and did you get some fast times? Was it mostly pumping or did you find a lot of kicking was needed for the route? Looking forward to your 'skate report'.
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peters pump deck info
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On 6/13/2005 vaitus
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks Peters, that's some good info there
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Alex's pump-rig
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On 6/12/2005
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
(130.13.nnn.nnn)
I've got mine set up with a German Seismic 135mm in front, wedged with a C.Yandal F RadPad & Yellow springs. The rear truck is a 135mm Geezer-X modified SureGrip Invader offset that I currently have mounted flat. I ride this setup with all kinds of wheels: Avalons, Avilas, Manx Gumballs, Flashbacks or Grippins; all of them fit fine with no wheelbite.
This is probably gonna be my GS ride at Hood River...but it's a great pumper as well. If I were only gonna cruise and pump it at the speeds you mention, then I may consider putting a more active steering on the rear, 'cuz the GXSG maybe stable & sticky, but it's not much for slower speed pumping.
I got an extra 34 x 9" CYa deck in shrink wrap that I'm thinking about re-locating.
-=S=-
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vaitus- pump deck opins
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On 6/12/2005
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
vaitus - if you can, get both a flex/cambered lightweight longboard, and a shorter Skaterbilt-type stiff deck (maybe their longest one) with concave. That way you've got more options depending on the trail. Stiff decks with shorter wheelbase are better pumping up steeper hills (I ride a 36" Roe or 41" LibTech) and longer flexy/responsive decks (45" Insect) for maintaining higher top speeds on flats and downhills. Steve at Insect will get your deck dialed just the way you want -- I had him throw in an extra sheet of carbon fiber to keep a longer POP life...
The Loaded feels too squishy for flatlanding...maybe others have had better luck, but mine is a dedicated butta-smooth downhill carving board. jp
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Correction to my post below
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On 6/12/2005 Alex
wrote in from
United States
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To correct my post below:
I mis-spoke about the size of CYa's deck. I'm referring to the 34 x 9 "Wreckreational Cruiser".
Thanks,
Alex
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Setting-up CYa's 32x9 Deck
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On 6/12/2005 Alex
wrote in from
United States
(71.65.nnn.nnn)
This is directed at Chris Yandall, and anyone else who has set-up one of his 32x9 decks. Chris, I'm going to purchase one of your decks. How do you recommend setting it up for being able to skog, pump, and bomb hills (30 mph or so)? Is there any one set-up that does all these things well? Interested in specifics about trucks, bushings/spring rates, wheels, bearings, spacers, etc. FYI, I weigh-in around 200 lbs. Thanks for all your input!
Alex
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Portland Pusher #4
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On 6/11/2005
Eastside Rollers
wrote in from
United States
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Looking for a good time on a Sunday morning? Look no further...
http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=190
Fun! Prizes! Skateboarding!
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airin - next time!
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On 6/11/2005
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Airin, not at all - take care! Hope things improve quickly there. We'll miss having you for sure -- but we're still looking forward to seeing you guys on July 31st at the Multiple Sclerosis Skate! -jp
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pumping questions
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On 6/9/2005 vaitus
wrote in from
United States
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what would you pumping freaks suggest as a flatland pumping deck for a beginner/intermediate who's over the learning stage, a stiff board with no camber like the skaterbuilt, a stiff board with camber like the bozi gs. or a cambered controlled flex deck like an insect or loaded? also has anybody set up a board with rt-x both front and back?
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Back to work.
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On 6/8/2005
Jack in Aurora
wrote in from
United States
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FINALLY! After 3 months I'm back to work! I'm tuning up my CY 38" and plan to start rehabbing my skating skills this weekend. Short rides to start, getting progressively longer. I hope to be skating to work by September 1st. I've got to learn to pump all over again and this time I'm going to try it just using my hips and legs. Skogging as usual will come second after I get my CrashPads..
Cheers,
Jack in Aurora
God rides a longboard!
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solstice skate a no-go for me
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On 6/8/2005
airin
wrote in from
Canada
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Hey guys, sorry to let you down. I had to cancel on the Solstice Skate (especially pains me after pulling off a real smooth 22km skate just yesterday). Anyways, a relative is in the hospital...serious stuff. Gotta stick around and help. Another time though,eh?
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monitoring progress
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On 6/3/2005 Many beards
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Another newbie question i'm afraid... I've got the jist of how to pump i'm just finding it hard to tell if i'm generating or maintaining speed so if any of you have any tips on how i can monitor progress i'd be very grateful
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Carving the Pump
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On 6/2/2005
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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Many years into this thing of generating speed on the flats is a passion. Thanks Steve for pushing this arena of skateboarding. The competition end for me is not the real passion but the feeling of flying like a bird on the cement is compelling proof that the motion is worthy of partaking in.
With the advent of these new boards that promote cranking turns for that sweet arc to perpetuate motion. I'm ALL over it!
WWW.PUMPYOURDECK.COM
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Cross-forums
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On 5/31/2005
Steve in AZ
wrote in from
United States
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For all of you Pump-a-holics:
Don't forget about "The Trap" forum!
Update your FASTEST time through either an 88' or 176' FLAT area.
The 44' area is just too small, and is going to be PHASED OUT.
The Trap is pure speed by ANY means...Push, Pull, Tug, Tow, Pump or Fart.
There are and will be other contests for pure pumping, but only The Trap will answer the question, "How fast can you get that thing goin' under your own power?"
I'm making my first run at it on my 38" Yaya once I get it set-up and gripped. Sorry it's takin' so long, CY...Race just turned 3 mos. old and has his first fever. Bleh.
-=S=-
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Skogging, Gesmer how to article and feet cramps
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On 5/31/2005 vaitus
wrote in from
United States
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Hola CYA, sorry no video at the moment but I'll try to work on it.
On a different note lately I've been working on my gyrating tecnique using as a reference the famous Gesmer how to article. It's an excellent guide but I feel it should include arm motion as well, I got that from the slalom footage on the Surf/skate/ski movie "Go for it" by Hal Jepsen and it really helps the abdominal/hips part of the gyration.
On the feet cramps I got that sometimes too, imo other than the arch problem it may depend on conditioning and especially on using your legs more than your abs.
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How to Pump