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answers for you \/
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On 6/20/2005
bpizzle
wrote in from
United States
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hey billy - i'm guessing you're just starting out sliding. shorter decks allow you for more control when you start sliding, its also quicker to go in and out of the slide with a shorter deck. i suggest something with both a kick and nose, they both also allow for more control. personally i really like pool decks, i'm sure you can use a regular modern shortboard deck as well. wide ones are good, probably atleast 8.5 - 9". length should be whatever feels comfortable, 31 - 36" for starting out.
hard wheels are the easiest to slide, something from like 88 to 98a is what i'm guessing. i'm not expert, and i've only gone sliding a few times, but i've been reading Cliff's and other's websites and this is most of the info i've gathered. let me or anyone else know if you have more questions.
slide on brotha!
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TIPS ON SLIDDING
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On 6/20/2005 billy
wrote in from
United States
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What size deck should i get for slidding?what type of wheels should i get for slidding?
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sliding in ditches and on banks
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On 6/20/2005
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
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If you saw a clip of Joe Timeship sliding in the Bear, you've got the idea already. I do way more sliding on the walls than on the flats. The idea is the same as what the Z-Boys used to do at Revere. Go up the wall, slide around 180 or 360, continue on to the next wall. Bank to bank to bank to......
Kinda like this:
http://www.bonelessone.com/gallery/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=reader-submissions&id=kleebertindianschool
But add 5 more inches to the board. Video WOULD be nice.
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K-LEE question
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On 6/20/2005 j
wrote in from
United States
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I went back and read more of this forum (and
viewed faltown videos, wow).
But my question is for K-LEE if he has the time
and inclination to answer it.
I read you are using a longer board and medium
hard wheels (aquas!). In a ditch with a 40" board
and medium-hard wheels, where exactly are you
sliding? I saw the video of the big toe side slide
in the bear at timeship, are the slides mostly in
the flat? If they are on the banks, how does that
work for you? are they berts, laybacks, how far do
you slide. video would answer all my questions if
it existed, but words will have to do if that is
all we have.
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board setups
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On 6/18/2005
bpizzle
wrote in from
United States
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2 buddies of mine who are into sliding got me into it, and i'm now looking to get my first sliding board setup. both their rides are basic pool shaped boards with longboard trucks and nice hard sliding wheels on them. i ordered a 9" wide pool board off ebay, and i have an old pair of pretty hard wheels that look like they're going to be the s#@! for sliding. i'm wondering if having wide trucks on a sliding board will affect anything negatively. i'm looking at the 10" Invader 950s to put on a 9" board. is that bad at all? thanks.
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noob2noob
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On 6/18/2005 j
wrote in from
United States
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Dave, I am kind of in the same position
as you. I have discovered that
it's possible to slide,
but not possible to slide and retain speed
on the big board with soft wheels.
With a shortboard and hard wheels, you can
continue into the fakie (switch) direction
with some speed and at least pivot back.
I have not been able to actually pendulum,
probably you need a hill for that.
however you are still learning something
useful, so get some gloves and try it. I have
eaten it on hills a few times in my life,
cause I was always a skatepark-only guy,
so the sliding thing is certainly useful to
know about. and fun.
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Sliding 101
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On 6/17/2005 Dave
wrote in from
United States
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I'm pretty new to longboarding, though I've skated on and off for about 20years or so. I don't have any hills around so most of my skating is in flat parking lots. I'm riding a 44" with 80a wheels. Is it possible to slide a longboard with wheels of this durometer in these conditions? If so, any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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heelside slide w/o rail grab
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On 6/16/2005
dez bomba
wrote in from
United States
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before u go into the heel side carve to begin sliding take a nice gradual toeside carve instantly following it with the heelside slide the motion from carve to carve will let ur wheels break free easier with the abrubt motion, u dont even have to grab in the front at all i like sliding these with my free hand grabbing stalefish(in back by the tail) ull get used to it, keEp pUshing!
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Morris
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On 6/14/2005 Aengus
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hey Morris dude, I've been coaching a friend through the same stages so I may be able to help a little, your right in being low, lower the better, as for grabbing the rail.. My mate Rich grabs the rail all the time and is in the same position, he'll get a 180 but no further, its coz your not going fast enough that it dosent just come back around but there's more than that.
As you suspected your free hand grabbing the board isnt helping, that free hand can wave around and give your body rotational momentum, you can punch your left shoulder goin into it and then swing your arm back to force the board out of the slide and back into regular. You'll find you have alot more control if you free up that hand, try doing carves first with one hand down and other in the air. Also try to do the carve but not actually grab the board with the free hand, just touch it.
Another prob with rail grabbing is that you tend to pull the leading edge upwards to assist the turning, not only does this make it harderwhen you try to stop grabbing the rail coz you suddenly arnt cornering into the slide as much as you did but you'll flatspot the edges. In the words of Cliff rail grabbing when learning stinks bug style.
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Manipulate gravity to get the full force of gravity 8.6 meters a second to stop
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On 6/13/2005
Safest way to stop brought to you by the world class elites
wrote in from
United States
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Only 4 real inquires! MUST HAVE Extreme sports accidental Insurence. MUST show me proof you studyed GYRO EFFECT in great detail. As well as pass a Physical (to make sure you are heathy enouph for the Gravitation stop). Also must pass a drug testings How ever, Gravitational Skateboarding is illegal in oregan untill 12:00am - 6:00am. Will be working with the best of the best Brazil and Bonzi Kahuku, Hawaii and Sector 9 and The legendary Phenomonon him self "Stevan Lyle Hemingway"(aslo goes by an alias name Stevan Lyle Panton)PLZ send a ldetailed letter explaining why you want to learn this Newest Generation of Skateboarding. Also include detailed paper of your knowledge of : GYRO Effect (VERY IMPORTANT), Phsyics, Mathmatics and Code Breaking, so that we know if your a potential person in learning this stop, so more people can ride with the best from around the world.
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America little slow at Elvolving in stoping.
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On 6/13/2005
West Coast Acoustic Pro
wrote in from
United States
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Ok you cant be 4 real foot stoping N s#@!? Its all about the Gravitational Stop. stops you at any given speed at a rate of 8.6 meters a second. but i dont blame you Gravitational Stop methods are only 15 years old and came from Brazil. and less than 900 people in the world are aware of its phsyics but dont dare try one. It is a rotation that spins in the same pattern the same as Binary Notery Code Counting System. Do you realize that your dangeriuos stoping patterns is what is keeping in the newest art of skateboarding from getting any money involved in it.
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Beginner's Slide Observations....
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On 6/13/2005
Morris Acevedo
wrote in from
United States
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Opps...
I'm sorry for all the underlined text. I did not mean for that to happen. : (
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Beginner's Slide Observations....
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On 6/13/2005
Morris Acevedo
wrote in from
United States
(66.30.nnn.nnn)
Beginner's Slide Observations....
I've been trying to learn to slide from the videos online, primarily from
But there are lots of other nice ones out there too.
I was hoping to get some feedback on the way I'm going about trying to learn to slide.
The board I'm using is pretty stiff, 40 inches long, 92a Flashbacks and Randall 150s. I made my own slide gloves.
So far I've tried "heal-side" slides. I find that for what ever reason (nerves etc..) I can't seem to keep my right arm (non-sliding arm) up in the air when I go into the slide. I freak out and can't seem to resist grabbing the board with my right hand as a some kind of re-assurance. I think it's mainly that I don't normally go that fast as a rule so the speed freaks me out. I'm working on it.
But here is what happens. I think that I might not be letting enough weight go onto my arm. The board starts into the turn, it slide diagonally a bit, starts pointing back up the hill and then I come to a total stop. I have not yet been able to keep moving down the hill and bring my board back around and continue on like I notice on the videos.
The plus side:
-I'm getting more comfortable at being "low" on the board. I like that. It seems to give me some confidence that if I do fall off, I don't have so far to fall. I like that.
-At least at this point I have discovered a new way to "stop" quickly in addition to foot braking or sliding on my knee pads which is what I would normally do. That's pretty cool.
So, I'm certainly not ready to have a nice day of riding the Berkeley Hill or anything. But I would like to get farther along.
Any thoughts, ideas or comments on how I have been proceeding? Perhaps even my skateboard set-up could be better for beginner sliding. I notice that on the videos, most folks have smaller wheels and shorter boards with kick tails on both sides.
Thanks,
Morris Acevedo
Salem, MA
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thanks
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On 6/13/2005 kyle
wrote in from
United States
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Hey thanks for the no skoolz suggestion, but I don't want to get a pair of wheels that squuuuueeeeekkkk like no skoolz do. And I already have some and I was looking to try out a different wheel. Any other suggestions for a wheel that won't cone when sliding or I can flip when it gets coned.
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answer to kyle
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On 6/12/2005
NBS_Graham
wrote in from
United States
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Dude, get ABEC 11 No Skools. I like the 65mm, 92 durometer. Ideally you shouled have a whole set of new wheels, like a wheel "quiver". See how you like sliding on the 88 durometer, the 92, and the 96 durometer NoSkools.
They are center set. Flip them immediately upon sign of coning.
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general sliding wheel question
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On 6/12/2005 kyle
wrote in from
United States
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I am looking for some center set sliding wheels. Do you guys know of any good center set sliding wheels? I am just worried that if I get side set wheels like the cliff gravity sliders they might cone, and then I can't do anything about it. Or do the harder wheels not cone? I know that my 78a no skoolz cone, but I just flip them because they are center set.
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double cons
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On 6/10/2005
joseph
wrote in from
Australia
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isaiah they (double cons not mini cons) are offset wheels. but still make your set up very wide! i've got them on indy 215's with rockn rons bearings. good thing the deck is 11 inches wide. the set up is still a little to wide but i dont do tricks so it doesnt bother me. i got the bulldog skates long pig deck by the way. 36" by 11"
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not the mini's
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On 6/9/2005
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
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I was talking about the full 64mm Dub Cons, not the 62mm Mini-Dubs. And, yeah, I got mine at Tailtap.com. They feel like they're made of soap!
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sliding
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On 6/8/2005
scrub
wrote in from
United States
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Here's some sliding freebord style:
http://www.freeboard.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1599
clicke the thumbnail under the post too for other stuff. what do you think of my videos??
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dubcons
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On 6/8/2005 isaiah
wrote in from
United States
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I wanted to add to my post if anyone has this info.K-LEE, were you talking boaut mini dubcons when you meant the black 90a (because those are the only ones in 90a on www.bulldogskates.com) or where you talking about the 64 mm version found on http://www.tailtap.com/? Also does anyone know if ducons are centreset?sideset? all info is much appreciated
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slidin wheels
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On 6/8/2005
david
wrote in from
United States
(68.167.nnn.nnn)
also to consider are comet skates..they make a nice center set 68mm 90a wheel that i love for sliding. also if you want a really hard wheel for super long slides is the santa cruz bullets 66mm forget the duro but super hard. they don't hold their speed that well being so hard but they slide forever.
also, i have a set of 95a 64mm centerset bulldog wheels, they rock for slides. usually i use those for really tech sliding stuff and use the 90a comet wheels for more high-speed carving sliding situations.
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bulldog wheels
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On 6/7/2005 isaiah
wrote in from
United States
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Ive decided to take some time away from downhill and focus on sliding so I ordered the 38 inch trim deluxe (www.skaterbuilt.com) it should be here tommarow, All i need now is some wheels. I primarilly trust abec11 wheels but I have heard mixed reviews on 94a+ noskools and seen some nasty flatspots. So if these black dub cons are as good as you say I may order a set, my qyestion is what is the diamter of the mini dubcon (it doesnt say on the webpage)
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90a BDS Dub Cons
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On 6/7/2005
K-LEE
wrote in from
United States
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I just recently scored a set of the Mini-Cubics reissues and also a set of those black 90a BDS Dub Cons. The Mini-Cubics are OK, I'll probably use them in the park or something. They break away and hook up kinda suddenly when sliding, but the slide itself is pretty nice. However, I took those BDS out for a slide session yesterday and could not believe my gloves! They slide like ice on a skillet, and they ride pretty smoothly for 90a. I've ridden and slid on lots of different wheels, and NOTHING has felt like these 90a BDS wheels. Thanks for the heads up Joseph. I was going to use them for ditch wheels (still might), but the shine as dedicated slider wheels!
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Cheers
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On 6/6/2005 Aengus
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Cheers Darran but I'm strapped for cash at the mo =( You gotta dig those welsh hills, they're narley steep an narrow.
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thanks
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On 6/6/2005 nic
wrote in from
United States
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thanks willie
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