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I'M WELSH - ME, ME, ME!
On 2/15/2000 CYMRU FUZZ wrote in from (193.62.nnn.nnn)

You need Welsh geezers to skate?
What's this all about? I'm into it... where's the hill... send me info...

Purleeeeaaasee
FUZZ
xxx

 
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It IS Scary...
On 2/14/2000 Pre-School Rider wrote in from (209.198.nnn.nnn)

I believe that riding Barefoot at speed is where the term "HAMBURGER FEET" came from.At 50+,we're talking Seared ground beef!!!

 
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Welsh longboarding scene riders needed
On 2/14/2000 franky wrote in from (195.92.nnn.nnn)

FUZZ,

REPLY TO THE POST BELOW VERY LOUNDLY!!!!!!
It sounds cool, but I'm notagood enough standard

 
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Welsh longboarding scene riders needed
On 2/14/2000 entropy wrote in from (152.204.nnn.nnn)

is there any welsh longboarders out there or from across uk as we need some skaters to come and do some skating with us in wales for sky sports drop me a line and i will hand out the info. the hill are extream so high standard needed for personal saftey

 
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Barefoot at 50-Scary
On 2/13/2000 Keith Fellmy (Mr. Safety) wrote in from (206.31.nnn.nnn)

50 mph and barefeet. I'm not even going to say anything.

 
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Barefoot at 50...
On 2/11/2000 eggman wrote in from (208.201.nnn.nnn)

Hey Herbn
That footage you saw of someone going 50 barefoot is from the video "Downhill Motion". I have a review on my page http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Valley/3125/Videos.html I just tried the link to the people I got it from (surfnomad.com), and the link is down. When I talked to them last year, they said a new web page was on the way, so I guess has arrived already.

 
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HOW TO SLIDE...
On 2/10/2000 WOOOOOAAAHHH...FUZZ wrote in from (193.62.nnn.nnn)

This 'sliding' video seems useful (in practice it allways seems to go Pete Tong!)...I seem to competently complete about 30% of my slides, the other 70% I either fall on my arse (or other painfull skin scraping places), or don't seem to be able to complete the 'reverse' - from the initial slide (usually backside - I'm regular foot). Smooth concrete is a premium around here, so not nailing over two-thirds of my slides ends up being costly to my unusually handsome features... : )
Nice one Cliff... I need more training as the scarred 'Rambo' look is out...and I can't afford plastic surgery...

YOURS EXTRA-ORDINARILY GORGEOUSLY
FUZZ
xxx

Down fans...you can have my autographs later...

 
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Re: How to slide video
On 2/9/2000 Hizzout wrote in from (63.70.nnn.nnn)

Cliff,

That is a great idea man! I need to learn to slide! This video sounds like something I need. Bust out that vid as soon as possible before I end up killing myself! :)

Keep Carvin'

 
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How to slide video
On 2/9/2000 Cliff Coleman wrote in from (209.162.nnn.nnn)

Great news from Berkeley, California, Downhill heaven for skateboarders.

Well I'm going to be getting together with the guys from "Gravity" at the end of this month and we will be making a "How to slide video". I'm sorry this took so long but now that I'm not traveling so much I'm actively working on this.

We will also be filming some of the roads that i've been talking about for so long. Centennial, Buena Vista, Claremont and maybe others. These are the type of courses that I hope the pros will be racing on in the near future.

I am also going to start an association of "cliffSliders" aimed at training more people to slide to make our sport safer for everyone. This is in it's early stages so I'll post more info when we are ready.

Sincerely,
Cliff Coleman

 
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Shoes
On 2/9/2000 Herbn wrote in from (207.198.nnn.nnn)

Whenever someone mentions the necessity of shoes I can't help but think of some very old video footage with some guy doing 40+ barefoot, that has to be such an intense experience,I've thought about recreating it,of course with safe modern equipment with gloves on hills I've riden many times it woudn't be quite as crazy but then again I doubt that guy in that video stepped up to an unknown hill on a board he never went fast on, and bombed it with a camera.Yes, shoes are definitely necessary,almost unneccessary to to mention.For the life of me I can't remember were I've seen that video footage, I think it was a preview for a movie or a video.

 
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CliffSliders
On 2/9/2000 Jocke wrote in from (193.15.nnn.nnn)

Hi Cliff

Do you have any pics or specs on the CliffSliders?

 
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Re: Cliff Coleman
On 2/9/2000 DT wrote in from (209.223.nnn.nnn)

AMEN,

by the way Cliff, you seen Tony lately?


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4:20 Race at Tantlus this spring, who's going?

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D.T

 
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Wrist, forearm & elbow protection
On 2/8/2000 Cliff Coleman wrote in from (209.162.nnn.nnn)

For those of you that wish to skate as radically yet safely as you can here is a list of safety equipment in order of importance. I have never broken my hands, wrists, arms or elbows. I use sliders, "cliffSliders" for me but any good sliding glove will work.

1. Sliding gloves.

2. Helmet.

3. Leathers.

4. Elbow & Knee pads.

Sliders are the only safety equipment items that help PREVENT accidents! They also help you if and when you crash. A helmet is next because in most instances a head injury is more catastrophic than breaking bones or losing skin. Leathers would be next because they give the rider more coverage than elbow or knee pads. Elbow and Knee pads are next because they protect such vulnerable body joints. I should also include shoes over bare feet. Shoes just seem so obvious to me.

I am thrilled when I show up to races these days and find that I'm not the only one with sliders on. Soon any rider that doesn't use sliders when riding downhill when be looked at as taking unecessary risks. THIS IS TRULY THE CASE and all of you, let's get on board!

Herbn, thanks for helping out the world of downhill skaters by joing me in making slider-gloves for those that don't have them. I hope to meet and skate with you some day.

Lastly, slider-gloves are going to change the professional downhill skate scene! The toughest courses are rideable and race worthy as soon as the riders all have the sliding skills to negotiate them. Until they do it is too dangerous for racers to try and race the hills that require slider-gloves! Don't impose mental blocks about learning to slide. Anyone can learn to slide and easily.

Sincerely,
Cliff Coleman


 
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Harbinger
On 2/8/2000 Pre-school Rider wrote in from (209.198.nnn.nnn)

Herbn's post reminded me to add that I wrote "WristWraps",not wristgaurds.The Harbinger folk sell both.Wristguards have stiff splints (sometimes with padding to add cushioning),whereas wristwraps are just a wrap,usually of leather,sometimes with padding added.The wristwraps allow some wrist movement,and don't transmit as much force up the forearm,thus helping save the elobow from undue trauma,And they work well with gloves over them(such as Sliders,work gloves,etc.).I feel,IMHO,that these are a good form of protection for those whose hands may inadvertantly make contact with the ground while skating.Hey,I can still type,right?

 
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Wristguards
On 2/8/2000 Herbn wrote in from (207.198.nnn.nnn)

I think people need to figure out for themselves if wristguards are necessary for them.If your wrists sprain easy;long before your elbow or forearms snap, then wristguards are necessary ,I remember needing them for a little while at Cherry Hill,once wrists get sore its either brace them for a while take it easy,or stop skating for a little while doing something else that exercises your body without damaging it,thus making it stronger then get back to skating.

 
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Harbringer Wrist Wraps
On 2/7/2000 Pre-School Rider wrote in from (207.136.nnn.nnn)

Many moons ago,I bought some excellent wrist protectors called "Clawz",and I use these quite often.I was dismayed to find that even working in a skate shop three years back,I couldn't find anything like them for a replacement.But sifting through the LINKS section of this site,I happened onto Harbinger Pads,which has several good options for wrist protection.Check out items #110G,#131G,#8050,and #8010.Their regular pads are really quite good,and I'd expect the same quality from these wrist guards.It's worth checking out.

 
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oops
On 2/7/2000 SoCalSoul wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Damn, I didn't mean to do that. My computer is sketchy. disregard my 1st post!!!

 
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wristguards
On 2/7/2000 SoCalSoul wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

Agreed. For high speed situations I think sliders probably are best, but there is a place for wristguards as well. as a medical professional myself, I've seen lots of skate injuries. Broken forearms are terrible, as is elbow trauma, but wrist injuries are the most common for skaters, and a shattered hand can be just as difficult to repair as an elbow. Above all, I think it's important to wear SOMETHING to protect yourself. The only way to be truly safe is to sit on your couch an watch TV, but that sucks so try not to hurt yourself to bad, and HAVE FUN!!!!
~SoCalSoul~

 
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dangers of wristguards
On 2/7/2000 SoCalSoul wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

I am also a medical professional. I agree with Ed's post but I feel it's important to point out that breaking bones in your hands and wrists can be just as serious, and is a lot easier to do. I've worked in an ambulance and seen some pretty bad skate accidents. Most of them involved wrist injuries, but no serious elbow breakage.
I guess the only way to completely protect yourself is to sit on your couch and watch TV all day, but that sucks so just try not to break yourself to bad and HAVE FUN!!!!!!
~SoCalSoul~

 
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Repost on the dangers of wrist guards
On 2/5/2000 DT wrote in from (24.4.nnn.nnn)

On 1/8/00 Ed wrote in from 24.4.254.107:
Just thought you may want to know that (since I'm a medical professional) Wearing wrist gaurds can take the forces from your hands and place those forces at the end of the wrist gaurd. This is usually the end of those 2 wacky bones that make up your forearm (the ulna and radius bones). If those 2 don't break then, if something is going to break, you will almost always break one of the structures that make up your elbow joint. This was told to me by one of my colleagues (an Orthopedist). The elbow is much more difficult to repair surgically and has less chances of a complete recovery. My advice: good gloves with abrasion resistive palms. A good wrap of velcro around the wrist is part of some of the gloves I've seen. Proper support is way better than a hard plastic "brace". Remember that broken bones are part of the risk, but who could give up all that fun? Skate on.
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i hope you keep this post in mind, i've known several people to break there forearms,

you should be using some type of sliding gloves.

D.T

 
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Gloves 4 fuzz
On 2/5/2000 socalsoul wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

There's this brand called Lazy Legs and as far as rollerblader wrist guards go, theirs are like the holy grail. the gloves are huge thick leather fingerless style with full thumbs, 2 velcro wraps on your forearm, and the replacable plastic palm wedges go up your arm extra far. they also have plastic supports on top of your wrist, and they look pretty cool, too. I use them for mountainboarding. They're a little restrictive, but you can't get better wrist protection. I got mine a few years ago for like $35. Hopefully they still make 'em.

 
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RE: GLOVES
On 2/4/2000 MY WINGS ARE LIKE A SHIELD OF STEEL FUZZ wrote in from (193.62.nnn.nnn)

Cheers for the info on the gloves...
Looks like I'll stick to using the roller blade style wrist guards I've got...
When they wear out I'll give you a shout HERBN...

TA!
FUZZ
xxx

P.S. Still waiting for my Aluminators...grrrrr! getting impatient now...

 
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History of the Ocean Bowl.
On 2/2/2000 eggman wrote in from (156.39.nnn.nnn)

Just got a new video. "History of the Ocean Bowl". It is not too bad. Actually it is pretty good. No longboard footage, but that is ok. The ocean bowl is the oldest municipal skate park in the US. This video basically follows the story of the park. How it got started, and the ups and downs of skateboarding and how it has changed the park. There is some pretty good footage, but it is mostly (well, ok, all of it) shortboarding... Anyway, it is a good video to put in your collection (if you actually have one). I found out about it here on NCDSA. So, if you want the info on how to get it, do a search of the site (video)... Or I guess you could e-mail me and I could try to figure out where I got it from. Anyway, just thought I would let you all know.
Later late.

 
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CliffSliders
On 2/2/2000 DT wrote in from (24.4.nnn.nnn)

The plates do not come off as easily as you may think, and wont come off while riding.

 
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Cliff sliders
On 2/2/2000 Herbn wrote in from (207.198.nnn.nnn)

Velcro? yeah maybe,there's velcro and there's really serious velcro,a large surface area helps, but I'd be a little concerned about accidently sliding over a manhole or cracks in the pavement,but they're probabely a good ,well tested product,can't wait to see them.

 
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