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On 10/18/2004
Márcio
wrote in from
Brazil
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Green is the collor for thane wheels...
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Up side down...
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On 10/18/2004
Márcio
wrote in from
Brazil
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Black: Good for rubbers
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On 10/18/2004
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Black is the worst color that you would want for urethane wheels. Dark anything is suspect. Not only does it heat up in the sun more, but more pigments, dyes and "contaminants" are added unnecessarily.
The other issue with colors is that it has historically been used as a way of denoting the durometer (Kryptos). Today, many enlightened skaters like to put different durometer wheels and trucks on the front than they do on the back. This means that they'd get a pink and purple setup for rough surfaces and a red-orange combo on their blue board. No thanks. Martha Stewart went to jail for this. Originally I was going to do the Flywheels in gray and put yellow, orange and red hubs in them for the different duros. We only had orange hubs for our first run and so we made them in three shades of gray - "Smoke", "Ghost" and "Charcoal". Nobody could tell what was what. What happens if we wanted more than three duros? Pink, Cyan, Mauve? Next came some "root beer" and "amber" colors. They won the Gravity Games but they looked like mud on TV. I didn't want to be the "Green Wheel and/or Orange Hub" company, so I decided to see how bad green wheels on orange hubs would look. It's either so bad that it's good or it's all good. Vibrant green is a good fast color. Orange is obnoxious. Together, they're fast and obnoxious, just like the designer 8-)
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G R E E N !!!!!!!
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On 10/18/2004
Márcio
wrote in from
Brazil
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Chris
Keep them green!!!!!!
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Regarding color
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On 10/18/2004
Sumdumsurfer
wrote in from
United States
(4.41.nnn.nnn)
Hmm... personally, I don't see the need for Chris to change his wheel color. He's right, it's a fairly young company and it's much too soon to start changing things this early in the grand scheme of things. There are dyes available for those that are THAT concerned with wheel color. My favorite color is orange, but I can never find wheels that I like that color. Well, besides the Manx wheels. LOL! Sorry, Chris. But, ABEC 11 puts out a quality wheel that's very fast and effective. Don't fix it if it ain't broke, I say.
Sorry, just my usual 2¢. Keep up the good work on the wheels, Chris!
SK8/SURF 4 LIFE!
Sumdumsurfer
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Black?
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On 10/18/2004
Jogger
wrote in from
Australia
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I have absolutely no technical experience or knowledge but I'm pretty sure black attracts heat. Where can I see "gleaming the cube"?
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Black wheels
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On 10/18/2004 Longboardloser
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(81.77.nnn.nnn)
Black wheels go faster, but they're a rougher ride on the street.
Haven't you seen gleaming the cube?
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colour
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On 10/18/2004 Yorck
wrote in from
Germany
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For some reason i think black wheels are stickier in the rain. did you ever try? What happened to your sidecar?
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STRIKERS
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On 10/17/2004
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
BTW, Both Bricin at CoastLongboarding.com (who uses the handle "Striker") and John Stryker think that I named the wheels after them. They're both right.
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Names and Colors
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On 10/17/2004
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
Believe it or not, I'm trying to keep things simple. I don't want to ever have maore than 7 names for wheels. The human brain can't deal with more than 7 names, digits, whatever. I decided that it would be simpler to have names for "families" of wheels that come in different sizes. All four Flywheels, both NØ SkoolZ and both Strikers would require 8 names, rather than 3, if I didn't. I liked the name Stingers. It was originally a contraction for "STickyfINGERS" and had slalom implications as well. I've discontinued the Stingers because I want more urethane and .400" spacing. The name carries a little baggage and so I decided to come up with a new name. I may have been watching Olympic soccer when I thought of the name. I can denote "gods of thunder, anvils striking while the iron is hot..." It depicts action which I like for a wheel that slides well. The best part though, is that it only replaces 3 of the 7 original letters.
I completely understand that people would like a variety of colors. I won't say "never" but right now it would be a huge mistake on my part to water down the powerful marketing and branding leverage that green is giving me. I'm in a "growth phase" right now. There still aren't very many people who have heard of Abec 11. Green is so easy to spot in pictures and in stores that it would be suicide to give up the most visible differentiating feature of a young product line. For now I suggest that you dye the wheels if you really don't want green.
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Abec 11 Strikers
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On 10/17/2004 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(67.171.nnn.nnn)
John, I do think Chaput has stolen your name bro, you should get a profit percentage plus charge a mispelling surcharge for mispelling your name. Just an idea, just one skater bro trying to help out another skater bro one day at a time, I'm with 'ya man. If you need some leverage, send Q to live at his house until he pony's up with the money. Later-Paul
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wheel color
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On 10/17/2004 herbn
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United States
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most of the abec 11 wheels i order are 75a ,though some of the new designs (more thane) make harder duro's seem like they might be a good idea. Anyway , the 96a noskools are unmistakable for 75a's the green is totally different, you'd have to be severly color blind to make a mistake. BUT I do agree that the green and orange is getting a bit tiresome,not bad enough to ride shytonics, but smokey tire silver grey core gets my vote,hey maybe clear core and various colors for different tires . DO you think different core hardnesses might make some difference?
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blue flywheels
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On 10/17/2004 toddc
wrote in from
United States
(68.125.nnn.nnn)
I recall riding some 101mm flywheels in transparent blue - 65a I think at the Presisio a few years back. Way cool looking 'thane.
While on the subject, my flashbacks are a totally different green than (more yellow) than my gumballs....did I get a weird batch?
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wheel color
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On 10/17/2004
tyler
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
I am also for the the change in wheel colors. Chris let's face it, you have two hands up on everyone in the wheel market. With krypto changing their web stie saying that their wheels are not for racing, and you having a wheel for EVERY discipline, why not spice things up a bit? Remember the reaction you got when you did the first green fly's?
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Abe 11 "Strikers" wheels
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On 10/17/2004
John Stryker
wrote in from
United States
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Chris, Where did you come up with the name for you new "Strikers" wheel? People have been asking me. Thanks John Stryker
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Green wheels
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On 10/17/2004
Jogger
wrote in from
Australia
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I agree with everyone about the wheel thing. Ever since I rode with some luge guys that had the duro's written in texta on the hubs of thier Flywheels, I thought that different colours for different duro's would be soooooooo damn convenient. Unfortunately I don't think it will happen. Wheels are comparatively small items and when thier going 80 kilometres per hour plus, the cameras only get a quick flash. So for manufacturers to have an easily recognisable item the have to go for colour.
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new colors
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On 10/17/2004
rustyburrito55
wrote in from
United States
(24.194.nnn.nnn)
i also agree there should be a little variety. green is cool but it doesnt go with everything
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Whoops
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On 10/15/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
I meant to put the last post on the vendors page. Sorry, move it if necessary. Because this is the Chris Chaput on Speed page, I would like to say that my friend Chaput also makes a great line of wheels as well as other products.
Cliff Coleman
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Thanks 3DM
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On 10/15/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Now that I have my computer up and running again, I'd like to give a big thanks to 3DM for sponsoring me regarding wheels at the recent races and at my clinics! I used blue Avilas in front and red Avilas for the rear of my homemade "CliffSlider" deck. These wheels helped me to a first in the "B" division Super Giant Slalom. Thanks Dan!
Cliff Coleman
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Geezer X
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On 10/15/2004
rustyburrito55
wrote in from
United States
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what is the MMW website? for my birthday im going to have my trucks geezerized
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Jim Z and MMW hangers...my $.02
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On 10/15/2004 SFKasJ
wrote in from
United States
(68.7.nnn.nnn)
Fredrik,
I was waiting for Chris to chime in since this is his forum, anyway I agree with everything Chris said about custom hangers, except for the prices. Monkeywrench does a great job doing basic axle swaps for $25 a hanger but to get the thicker, longer axle modified Randal DH hangers you are paying as much for them as you are for a set of Jim Zs. When I contacted Geezer-X at MMW to check out his new beefy speed hanger he quoted me a price of $100 per hanger and $190 per set. I paid $150 for a set of Jim Zs as a preorder and I believe they are $200 regular price.
The Jim Z hangers definitely weight more than the MMW hangers but have advantage of the spherical pivot, precision pivot and pivot cup as well as the ability to swap out 2 different length axles. Replacements being $25 a set. I think they are still available…have to talk to Jim about that.
The Geezer-X axles are readily available since he modifies existing Randals. You can choose the length of the axle to suit your needs. They are lighter than the Jim Zs. If these were priced in the $120 to $140 range for a set I would be all over them, but at the current cost I gotta stick with the Jim Zs as I’m not personally worried about the extra weight and I don’t need a custom length. I would however recommend sending in a set of DH or 180 Randal hangers for the 8mm standard axle swap…best $50 you will spend.
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Book!
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On 10/15/2004
Rodrigo Stulzer
wrote in from
Brazil
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Cool! We'll have a Chaput book!
People, please be in line, Mr. Chaput will be right here to sign your books in a couple of minutes!
Thanks for the "Inspired" quote; I'll be very proud of that. Please sign and email me one of the first copies :-)
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Wheels
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On 10/15/2004 Yorck
wrote in from
Germany
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I did´t give you money for the wheels,so no need for replacement.Thank you anyway. god luck in ohio.
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Bainbridge
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On 10/15/2004 Dave G
wrote in from
United States
(207.69.nnn.nnn)
Chris,
Goodest of luck in Ohio!I'm working on Red Bull! You'll be missed in Fayetteville,but I understand tho. The speeds will be epic! And I can't imagine the "lay down" possibilities!!
Enjoy,
Dave G
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Morro Bay Grippins
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On 10/14/2004 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
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Hey Chris, Thanks for making the Grippins, I loved the feel of them on Friday's SG/S and they put me on the podium for 2nd B Division on Saterday. It was good to finally meet you in person. Thanks- Paul Howard
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