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Q&A: McKendry on Speed (1810 Posts)
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Safety, Braking, Speed
On 10/26/2004 Chris Chaput wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

First, I'm sorry to hear about the crashes. Hopefully you guys are younger than I am and will heal quickly. Secondly, my apologies for not posting responses sooner. There have been some great questions which should be addressed thoroughly. This is good stuff.

John did a nice job of explaining how to combine disciplines on a secure road. I'll be posting a bit more today about:

Speed: Going the fastest or slowing the least?
Strategy: Can brains beat braun?
Attitude: Talk yourself IN to winning
Experience: Learning from your mistakes
Equipment: Every bit helps, but skill will rule the day
Luck: I'd rather be lucky than good on race day
Safety: Live to skate another day

Downhill skateboarding can be one of the most exciting things that you'll ever do in life. It's usually an experience that is shared among only a handful skaters in small pack. Not unlike a game of chess, it usually starts out the same but then develops into a unique experienced witnessed first hand by only those running with the pack. Everyone's vantage point is different from the other guys. That's why, at the end of the run, everyone walks over to one another and compares notes. The few, the proud, the insane - the downhillers!

 
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accident avoidance
On 10/25/2004 John Rogers wrote in from United States  (198.81.nnn.nnn)

Rodrigo, I'm sorry to hear about the rider getting hurt. I'll try to tell you how some of us practice in SoCal. Chris normally rides with a group of guys at two or three practice locations. At these locations we separate the luge and stand-up riders by a good distance to eliminate problems like the one you described. Mixing riders from these different disciplines is dangerous because of the speed differences and because of the different braking methods.

Luge riders are normally faster on the straight part of the road, but before a turn a luge rider may brake with his feet heavily. This braking is a much faster method of braking than any stand-up rider can employ. For this reason, we never have stand-up riders closely follow luge riders on a turny road that requires heavy braking. If we have mixed disciplines we let the faster one go first. Normally, the luge is faster.

Radios and spotters(riders or spectators controlling a corner or the end of the road) are used to make sure the road is clear and secured. One radio is used by the riders at the top and the other radios are used by spotters at all side roads and by the driver of the vehicle controlling the bottom of the road. Only after the we receive word on the radio that all side roads and the bottom are secure, do we begin descending the road.

We normally ride on secluded roads that have very few to no side roads to control. We have discussed getting some type of vest and small stop signs for the spotters, but we have not done that yet. On open roads we ride much more conservatively and we try to stay in our lanes at all times.

 
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Chris on "How to Avoid Accidents"
On 10/25/2004 Rodrigo Stulzer wrote in from Brazil  (200.140.nnn.nnn)

Chris,

What do you have in your "book" about how to avoid accidents? Yesterday was a bad day here in Curitiba. We took a drop in a very cool, lots of curves and slow speed road (< 50km/h), but we've got an accident :-(

On the second drop a luge guy had to brake to slow down and do a curve and a standup fellow was right behind. It seems that he could not slow down and felt down, crashing in a guard-rail. He did not break anything, but had to stay at the hospital for 24hs.

Man, it is a very bad felling, see your fellows get hurt and do not have a answer why this happened. I know that there's no magic and eventually 's#@! happens', but I'm very bad with the accidents that I've seeing.

What can we do to help avoid accidents? There's something "smelling in the air" before the majority of the accidents?

Chris, please put some words of wisdom here. I really need it.

 
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cornering & drafting
On 10/24/2004 brad wrote in from United States  (155.229.nnn.nnn)

i would like 2 hear from the experienced downhillers out there about how you approach turning at speed, both frontside and backside, and for different kinds of turns

in just about all the downhill videos i've watched, most of the dumping is due to sliding out on turns.

i would also like 2 hear more about drafting
how do u keep from running into the racer in front of u and when do u decide when 2 pass

 
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Yeah Kludy's right
On 10/23/2004 Jogger wrote in from Australia  (202.63.nnn.nnn)

Yeah Lets hear what the top guys do to get the speed and results.

 
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SOMETHING TO PERMOTE
On 10/22/2004 KLUDY wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

I HAVE NOTHING TO SELL AND NO MONEY BUT LETS TALK SPEED BABY BECAUSE THATS ALL I HAVE NOW DAMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 
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CHRIS ON SPEED
On 10/22/2004 KLUDY wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

IS THIS A ABEC SITE? TALK ABOUT SPEED, GOING FAST.HOW DO I GO FAST, WHAT MAKES ME FAST. ITS NOT THE ABEC GREEN BUT GREAT MARKETING.I AM DOWN BUT NOT OUT!!!1

 
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....Proof is in the {GREEN } Pudding !
On 10/22/2004 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (66.81.nnn.nnn)

North Carolina Longboarder -

Man, you sound like you got "THE STOKE" for skateboarding - !

...probably the most benefificial aspect to RACING - or just
enjoying skateboarding - and, OR possibly seeking improvement
in your skating abilities - - -

Duane -
-Instead of "ludes" yer talkin' about - - -

-you should be talkin' about wholesome foods , vitamins
and minerals - and maybe supplements to
aid in better skateboarding performance !

Duane, there are OTHER DIFFERENT VARIABLES -
to HELP one go faster in Slalom Racing - besides WHEELS !

[ -I know this is Chris Chaput's FORUM -
- - - but here's MY INPUT - ]

The right board for the specific event -
- the right wheels ,
-bearings...
- the right clothing - Racers are getting Tighter Clothing now-
...to cut thru the wind easier,
Aero - Designed helmets - less drag,
the right truck set-ups - even the bushings - BIG DIFF....
-how 'bout those DIFFERENT riser pads set-ups ! -Oh man !
Of course, good CARDIO - Whew !
MONSTER ENERGY - oops, I mean good energy boosters...if you
need a little pick-up during a race... !
[-not letting yourself DRAG DOWN during competition ! ]


-maybe I missed a point or 2 ....
but you get the IDEA ......


LET ME SEE....

I put Gumballs on my Longboard @ WLAC for the G.S. Event...
AND knocked off a whole second on my next timed run -
[ in front of Chris Chaput ]....

Since 1999 - when Richy and I came out to WLAC for the
"Resurgence of Slalom" ....
[ -I hadn't seen Cliff Coleman in over 20 years - that was cool ! ]

- - - Anyway, I have ALWAYS wanted to at least make it to "Podium" -
- - since then - - - -

-Move up to 2004 ...."Pump Station Jam" ...[ Thank's Hamm ] ....
I put Grippins on my tight-slalom board,
AND I finally MAKE PODIUM - 3RD PLACE,...
- in the TIGHT SLALOM EVENT -
- right behind Richy 1ST - and Dave Hackett - 2ND.

....'nuff said.....


Take care,
........-Rene' CANNONBALL Carrasco !

 
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I'm Buying Grippins!
On 10/22/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Thanks. That picture was able to show the size of those wheels in porportion to the trucks and board. Like you (take no offense) I am bigger rider (6 ft 215 lbs) and if you can fly on those wheels like you do my slow inexperienced ass should be at least stable as I knock down the cones...Thanks for the info.

Roll on Brothers and Sisters.
SCHOOL'S OUT

 
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Duane
On 10/22/2004 Yorck wrote in from Germany  (82.83.nnn.nnn)

Wheels have nothing to do with speed???????????????????????????

 
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Da Kine Wheels ..
On 10/22/2004 renecarrasco.com wrote in from United States  (66.81.nnn.nnn)

North Carolina Longboarder -

.....Yup.

..............-Rene' C.

 
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Wheels
On 10/21/2004 North Carolina Longboarder wrote in from United States  (63.167.nnn.nnn)

Cannonball: Are those Grippins on that board?

North Carolina Longboarder
Roll on Brothers and Sisters. Roll on.
SCHOOL'S OUT

 
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take a lude
On 10/21/2004 Duane wrote in from United States  (68.15.nnn.nnn)

wheels have nothing to do with speed

 
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Chaput in the Green Stuff !
On 10/20/2004 Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco wrote in from United States  (66.81.nnn.nnn)

Chris -

-keep 'em GREEN brah ! - Cool wheels !
........STICKY and FAST !







2004 La Costa Open Slalom Race......TIGHT COURSE.

 
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Yeah, what he said!
On 10/20/2004 Darth wrote in from United States  (216.31.nnn.nnn)

Brad, This is Chris Chaputs/Abec 11 Vendor and Wheel forum...........

 
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wHAT FORUM IS THIS?
On 10/20/2004 brad wrote in from United States  (155.229.nnn.nnn)

hey, is is the Vendor's Corner or the Wheels Forum?

What happened to Chris's on Speed?

 
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97mm ASAP
On 10/19/2004 kiwi wrote in from Canada  (67.71.nnn.nnn)

the montreal night bombers
want their big green wheels, before the snow hits!!!!

send to kebbek&pm please

 
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Felt Tip Pen
On 10/19/2004 Rodrigo Stulzer wrote in from Brazil  (200.140.nnn.nnn)

Get a Felt Tip Pen (that ones used on CD-Rs) and write directly on the whell. Place? Choose the one that you like most.

I draw a line with theses pens in my krypto 76mm to see how long long the line last. Well, the line did not disappeared yet and I suspect that the ink flowed inside the whell, penetrating in the urethane.

 
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print on wheels
On 10/19/2004 13 wrote in from United States  (63.119.nnn.nnn)

A sharpie is a slalom skater's best friend. I buy them by the box of 10. Since I know the print of my beloved abec 11 wheels will come off within a session or two when I get them new I take my swiss army knife and scrape the print off (sorfter duros are much easier) and mark the inside lips with a sharpie. Even when I was with 3dm I marked my wheels, I even have some stradas marked with duros (incase I forgot what they were) though the orange/green/purple/yellow - sometimes pink or blue duro scheme is forever seared into my brain).


 
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core hardness
On 10/19/2004 herbn wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

relative hardness,you could have 60D, 75D ect ect, at a certain point you'd make the cores for the bearings to slide together,any stretch in the urithane and the bearings are loose, If you go slightly softer,you still get plenty of bearing support and aliegnment and the core can have a bit of a chamfer and stretch a bit.If you make cores out of metal bearing fit can be great but they get heavy really quick, unless you make them thin,now you get a bit of stretch,you also get a the possibility of unwanted permanent stretch,loosening fit, powerpaw aluminators did this.

 
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Print on wheels
On 10/19/2004 Shredder wrote in from Germany  (132.230.nnn.nnn)

Hey Chris is there any way to print the duro on your wheels so they stay there? I hate having wheels and I'm not sure which duro they have. Different coloured hubs sounds like a good idea...

 
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green wheels
On 10/19/2004 bean-a-reano wrote in from United States  (216.89.nnn.nnn)

keep the color. They are fast and obnoxious and i can think of no other way to fly down a hill. They stand out no matter what board you put them on either.

 
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gleaming the cube
On 10/18/2004 joseph wrote in from Australia  (211.30.nnn.nnn)

its a cheesy movie jogger that has lots of 80's skating in it. you can rent it at blockbuster.

 
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different core hardness
On 10/18/2004 tyler wrote in from United States  (67.83.nnn.nnn)

Different core hardness would be interesting. But would the core flex causing the wheel to deform and possibly reduce speed? Also would it put stress on you bearings? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The world may never know...

 
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Abec green
On 10/18/2004 PaipoJim wrote in from United States  (67.164.nnn.nnn)

That green is a lot closer to the color of my Abec 11 wheels than the background Chris uses on his posts.

 
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