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Q&A: HACKETT & OLSON on RIDING (1085 Posts)
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old guys skating or playing golf or skiing or bowling or ....
On 5/27/2005 Greg Olsen wrote in from Canada  (206.172.nnn.nnn)

Hopefully John Livingston is no longer trolling.....why would he bother? Why would he bother to comment? Why would he be even looking at this site if he did not have some nostalgic interest in skating? "Hmm I wonder what the heroes of my youth are doing these days?" He sees they are still out there rolling around on toys. Incredulous, he mocks them.
Well I sort of understand the reaction. I got back on a skate last fall. For awhile I was embarassed to be seen on it in the affluent neighbourhood I live in (I bought in BEFORE it became affluent). The guys walking out to their BMWs still look right through me as I pass within feet of them...even after I have said, "It beats jogging!", or "Hi" or whatever...But as I spent more time skating the expertise I had 25 years ago returned, and it did not take long, I began to remember how GOOD it makes me feels to fly down a piece of asphalt with the board turning back and forth beneath me. I began to play at the edges of traction, to tweak the pump for the extra accelleration to experiment with various wheels and trucks. HOW is this any different than skiing, which does not end automatically at age 18? How is the subtle tweaking of performance any different than the endless variation of grip and stance, swing and clubs that occurs in golf? Consequences perhaps. A fall in golf usually is fatal too though....heart attack. Skiers die every year at all ages from hitting trees though don't they? It too has consequences. The street scene and the 'lifestyle' of thuggery and indolence that seems to accompany it perhaps has given all skateboarding a bad name. The gentler longboard set would change that perspective if there were enough of them.
Doing something well at any ages gives self-esteem. That is why we pursue recreational activities at some level. For some, recreation is just putting in time with fiends or the family but at all ages excellence is still sought and the pursuit of excellence is still respected and valued. My 72 year old father is an awesome golfer. He has never turned down his enthusiasm for the great shot or the perfect putt. He has never evolved it into a milder social past-time. For that he is thought of as a bit rude and obnoxious...whatever... he still has a single digit handicap. Everything he does and plans is around golf. It is his value system. It is a value system supported by the Country Club and the wealthy and elite who invest so much into golf and the clubs that it requires. But really it is a silly little game. Listen to Robin Williams 'history of golf' stand-up piece. Its killer funny and lampoons golf into the ridiculous. ANYTHING can be lampooned into the ridiculous. Anything can be found to have flaws, to be lacking. But finding flaws is the OPPOSITE of tolerance and what this society is supposed to be based on. America and Canada embrace diversity. It is out heritage. Putting people down is not.

So the older guys who were the stars of our youth continue to be the 'elite' of the sport. Just as I still revere the skiing stars of my youth, I know they are still on the slopes kicking ass...but privately... but they too have the occassional 'old guys' race. My brother-in-law is 45 and has for years been 1st or 2nd in elite 'citizen' racing in Jasper. The guy he swaps the top of the podium with on a yearly basis is a much younger 20-something retired member of the Canadian National Ski Team. The skate stars on this site too are still kicking ass 'privately' but slalom skating MEANS competing so there are competitions.

So I got over my embarrassment of skating on my front street. The nice neighbours smile and wave. The majority think I am a retard or don't care. Ultimately not caring...living and let living is the best I can hope for: tolerance of diversity. I get a lot of pleasure and esteem from skating. Self-steem is transferable too. My wife notices I am happier these days. It is like a long lost Savings Bond found in the back of a drawer and cashed in years later. We older skaters are reaping the benefits of the hours of investment we made as youths. I do NOT have the time to learn any new activity from scratch at this point in my life. Pulling skaing out of the drawer and being pretty good at it right away has made me feel great, gets me kudos from the younger set and I am getting fit too. How could any activity be better and more rewarding? Rock on Hackett and Olson.

 
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McCree
On 5/27/2005 WAX wrote in from United States  (24.9.nnn.nnn)

Mark. sorry to hear about your teddybear

 
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nice pic
On 5/27/2005 J-Rad wrote in from Switzerland  (80.254.nnn.nnn)

nice pic... Paul Price, Peter Klang, Steve Olson


 
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Totality of Evidence/Circumstance test
On 5/26/2005 Lenny wrote in from United States  (68.253.nnn.nnn)

Mark, that clears it up a lot. Like Marion, I laughed out loud when I read that! That cracked me up!

 
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Thanxs
On 5/26/2005 steVe OLsOn wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)


Thanxs McCree........
for taking us to Paris
What a blast.....
OLSON

 
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PUMP STATION RACE NUMBER V&VI DATES
On 5/26/2005 HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING wrote in from United States  (68.71.nnn.nnn)

I'T S OFFICIAL:

PUMP V RACE: SUNDAY JUNE 5TH

PUMP VI RACE: SUNDAY JULY 3RD - WEEKEND BLOWOUT AND
AWARDS BANQUET CEREMONY PARTY AT CASA HACKETT IN ENCINITAS!

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THIS WILL BE FUN!

THANKS TO ALL OUR SPONSORS:

RADIKAL
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GET READY TO RRRRRRUUUUUUUUMMMMMMBBBBBBLLLLLEEEEEEEE!!!!
HACKETT - BLACK LEATHER RACING

 
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ROFLMAO
On 5/26/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Mr. McCree: Don't hold back...tell us how you really feel!

(I literally just busted out laughing while on the phone with a client when I read your post....sometimes multi-tasking is not a good thing!)

Thanks for the laugh Mark! That was freakin hilarious. Unfortunately my client now thinks I think he is one funny dude.

Marion Karr
www.downhillbillies.org
Future winner of a Radikal Truck (he hopes...practice practice practice)

"Fueling The Stoke One Hillbilly At A Time!"

 
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bald
On 5/26/2005 mark mccre wrote in from United States  (69.68.nnn.nnn)

Hey Lenny, By it's self nothing. But if you were a bald sex offender who was supposed to be a girl whose teddy bear was burned by his mother at 10 and has a little d#$%ck, well I guess that would be much worse. Figuratively speaking.

 
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Hope Not.....
On 5/26/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Thanks Hackett...that's better...!

Grindie...well...I hope not....talk about making you feel old as crap.

Marion Karr
Proud To Be Down
www.downhillbillies.org

"Fueling The Stoke One Hillbilly At A Time"

 
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One more thing
On 5/26/2005 Lenny wrote in from United States  (68.252.nnn.nnn)

www.downhillbillies.org Proud to be down, what are you proud of?

 
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JL
On 5/26/2005 Lenny wrote in from United States  (68.252.nnn.nnn)

How exactly does one "use his brain"? Just wondering because evidently my career in education (either teaching, or getting my M.Ed.) must not qualify? Like everyone here has said, you're a kook. Go play golf, get fat, and wish your life was as fun as ours. I agree with it all, except one... Hey Mark!!! What's wrong with being bald?!?!?!!? :-)

 
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hay seeds
On 5/26/2005 grindie wrote in from United Kingdom  (217.43.nnn.nnn)

maybe it is your daughter!

 
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Jerky JL
On 5/25/2005 Cknuck wrote in from Canada  (64.230.nnn.nnn)

JL, you puss. Yoy have no idea about life. Most of us guys play with our skateboards cause we like it. I sk8 with my kids and my grandhild (another one on the way soon).

A lot of the guys here inspire the kids you speak about. One of the kids that sk8'd for me 12 years ago is making close to 1/2 mill $ a year playing with hid toys. He is one of several making good money from what I have dedicated my life doing.

Quit doing, what I'm doing? I get to work at a sk8park, build ramps, do demo's, TV, Newspaper and coach kids 7 days a week. What a life. Wouldn't change it foe the World. You know the best part of it all. I'm getting to COMPETE with the best skateboarders in the World at age 46.

You may want to re-think your chosen (whatever it is you do). You should come on out and play with us sometime. I'll take you on on a Slalom race and I'll ride on my hands just to give you a chance.

Many Happy Pumps

 
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Time To Change The Pic
On 5/25/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Hey Hackett: Dude, can you get your picture person to change the ad pic sometime?...it sort of looks like my 16 year old daughter and it is freakin me out!

Congrats again on a great showing in Paris.

Marion Karr (a nobody)
www.downhillbillies.org

"Fueling The Stoke One Hillbilly At A Time!"

 
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BREWINGTON
On 5/25/2005 MARK MCCREE wrote in from United States  (69.68.nnn.nnn)

Bruce called me on monday and did not give me his last name- or I was not paying attention. I did not know who it was- several drinks had accumulated in my body by then. He "e" mailed me and that;s when I realized I had been talking to Brewington. Anyway, he will be piggybacking with us to Stockholm next month. He was sorry he missed Paris this year as he had been last year.

 
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AARP Role Models
On 5/25/2005 Joe I wrote in from United States  (63.87.nnn.nnn)

Sure Mark McCree is a role model. But I'll tell you who I miss. Bruce Brewington! What happened to that guy? The people of Paris loved him too. Somebody call him up and get him back out here.

Joe

 
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arrgghh
On 5/25/2005 donald20 wrote in from Germany  (80.132.nnn.nnn)

do you guys really think jl is worth the attention you're giving him?
he's a waste of time,so carry on...

 
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Old?
On 5/25/2005 Michael wrote in from United Kingdom  (195.92.nnn.nnn)

Why I like skating:


A great shot by Niall of Mark McCree blasting in Paris.

I'll bet when we are all in wheelchairs we'll STILL be racing.


 
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Who's old???
On 5/25/2005 Miko wrote in from United States  (66.81.nnn.nnn)

You damned 40 year old young punks don't know what yer talkin' about! At 51 many, many things become much clearer, and as far as I can tell, I'm a faster and more exuberant skater than about 98% of the people I meet out there. Stay young, work out, eat better, skate smarter, then rip when you blow out of the gates baby. Glad to see my 40+ bros out there killing it and schooling ANYONE who cares to show up!

John O... are you going to make it to Maryhill? How are you geting there?

 
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John livingston - grow up?
On 5/25/2005 Utah Trish wrote in from United States  (63.230.nnn.nnn)

hey John Livingston,

This ought to blow ya! I am a 40 year old mom of two and I can outskate my son....not by much but we ride together and his buddies come over and want to know when "mom will take them skating" In the words of peter Pan....I don't ever want to grow up! heed them when you're 40!
ride ON!

Trish Erickson
Proud charter member of the DOWNHILLBILLIES.
skater mom

 
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old man
On 5/25/2005 Miss Kitty wrote in from United States  (69.68.nnn.nnn)

Hey John Livingston--what the hell are you doing on this forum if you hate it so much? No wonder you're miserable. By the way, did your mommy name you after the seagull?

 
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last pump
On 5/24/2005 team mitchell wrote in from United States  (67.173.nnn.nnn)

we plan to make it to pump house race
terandjay

 
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BLR #5 & #6
On 5/24/2005 Keith Hollien wrote in from United States  (68.214.nnn.nnn)

Hackett,
I was planning on coming to San Diego June 5 for BLR #5. Cat was just about to book my flight. I was also planning on coming back 4th of July weekend with Mark for the BLR finale. I will be in Colorado June 10 & 11 for the Colorado Cup. I do want to miss anymore Pumphouse races.

Keith, Teams Radikal & Pocket Pistols.

 
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JL
On 5/24/2005 mark mccree wrote in from United States  (69.68.nnn.nnn)

Anyone who as an email address entitled "john the man" has got to have a little d#$%@ck. I bet he is even a sex offender. I bet his mom even told him she wished he had been a girl. I bet she even burned his teddy bear when he was 10. I bet he is bald. I mean BALD.

Am I right???? huh big boy?

 
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pump #V
On 5/24/2005 mark mccree wrote in from United States  (69.68.nnn.nnn)

Colorado cup is that weekend guys. I will be in Jaxonville for the power boat club poker run. A hellicopter will be taking pictures of me and Sparky in our radikal shirts on my cigarette boat.

Hey JL, Go f&$%^#k yourself. There must be a forum for guys who are ready to die. I bet you don't even get any anymore.

 
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