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| Q&A: Chris Yandall on Skogging (417 Posts)
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skogging habit
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On 6/11/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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i don't do a lot of mileage pushing(i pedal), but i do carve out a fairly quick little hill three -four times a day,sometimes. But now everytime i push for more than a block, i do a bit of skogging, and the feet and balence is remembered. I pedal up the hill i'm gonna skate and go looking for new ones and watch for repavings, i have a bit of a backloge, a todo list, a toskate list.I'm getting itchy,time to skratche.
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vids, turn pooff blocker off, have flash player installed
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On 5/14/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
they work!
cYa
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Marissa Yandall :D - daughter skogger
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On 5/14/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
Marissa!
Finally, you are finding some time away from your busy bartending toil :D
That Denver skatepark rocks. I miss it. What a scene! Man I miss the rockies but the san diego beaches are my home now.
As for as eating concrete, I am yet to taste it. But it sounds nasty! May I suggest baby steps! remeber, 14 years ago??? when i forced you down triple diamonds on your skiis and now you're a kickass snowboarder. those kind of baby steps! you gotta yearn for it, burn for it and then make it rain. practice makes perfect. i am close to having reverse mongo strokes to not only alternate legs but to also alternate lead feet in pushing.
the slower you go the quicker you'll get it. try using your other leg while on carpet or something that impedes the natural roll. lately, a nice golf green does sweet.... just dont get caught! carpet should do. astro turf helps as well. just look at my videos. it should give you the general idea of the motion. and yes, uphill may lead to falling backwards before you fall forwards with you have been doing.
also, nice to see the activity on the board. and some support from those that see me tearing up the cement, a la senior skateboard citizen style even to this very day.
switching legs, skogging or whatever you wanna call it, is my main source of exercise.
Adam ! where the heck are those xtrucks????
My originals, that I skated heavily for the last 2 years are in pretty good shape without one adjustment or bushing change with over 2000 miles of skogging under my wing in a few years. Can Xtrucks beat that? And whoa, my big green chaput wheels are keeping a big smile on my face. As for my board, it has been totally scratched as I see sector 9 knockoffs being sold all over the beach areas thanks to me. sure sector 9 is the last word in longboards these days but since when has being the biggest meant being the best? i'm really in love with the 38" length for my skogging and pumping. i'm not dictating that's what it should be but I am saying, those that try that length may enjoy the benefits of what I'm "feeling" these days. and skogging is a love of mine. my gf knows it and most people on the boardwalks of mission and pacific beach are down with it too. so this is my spwaning ground for the disipline.
i hope to make strides soon in bigger leaps but the programming business is where my wits are taking me these days. keeping a low profile has been a treat for me. so life goes on and this board gets more activity as people see the viableness in the effort.
lessons, clinics... yea! bring it on!
cYa
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switch push
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On 5/13/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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try it on a slight up hill first
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learning to skog
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On 5/13/2006 marissa
wrote in from
United States
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hey dad...i just cant get the hang of it. every time i try to peddle with my other foot i eat concrete. can u help me out?
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downloaded a video
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On 5/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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skogging pacific beach,the bar is gone, it should be finnished can't seem to make it play, clicked on everything
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checked it out
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On 5/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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i think i came into skating around issue three, and i think those pic are real early, i think i remember the high jumping shot and the toes(your toes i guess?)did the wheels sell well back then, did they take too long being released,there didn't seem to all that much promotion to who the skater behind the wheels was.
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yandall
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On 5/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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when i think skogging i think yandall, and today it occured to me that even back in the day 76 77,78 the wheel sort of preceded the skater, i had no idea who yandall was at the time ,all i knew was there were these wheels that were like smoother grippier oj's, the shapes were similar. They also seemed slower,at least when rolling, i have figured out at some point that they were probabely meant to have even more grip than an oj and that would let you pump them harder, so they were probabely faster around cones, I've never seriously run a course with cones,mostly just skateparks ,street, dh, a couple of pools, everything but cones so slalom was not big deal to me.I knew piercy ,hutson,hester,ect ect but yandall gets filed away next to the the greg tai file,no insult intended you're probabely an excellent slalom skater and a well above average overall skater .Is there a yandall bio somewhere?,i really should have looked first asked later.
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practicing my basic skog
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On 5/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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now i no longer skate over for white rice,i skog, switching feet while pushing on a busy street is a bit unnerving, but it's worth it, it's not totally new to me,done it just a little for many years. My left foot(front) push is still a bit sketchy, seems like place my heel down then roll to my toe,and there isn't the quickness/power of my natural pushing foot(right) but i'm working on it, sometimes i even switch all the way to mongo for a few strides. My low low trucks are not tippy enough loose enough, i'm making a new pair.
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skogging
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On 5/11/2006
Fellow
wrote in from
United States
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I stopped the mainstream skating of dropping down stairs and the such. I have been doing freestyle and jogging for next years track team. I see that skogging looks like a great exercise as it fits my demands. Chris is smarter than most folks because he doesn't conform, he innovates. We need more people like chris!
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some people jog slow, some jog sideways, some ...
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On 4/25/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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some people jog slow, some jog sideways, some job fast... it is still jogging.
i skog long distances without dancing. i skog with a dancing flair sometimes. Either case, I'm still alternating my legs. THAT is skogging.
at no point in time did i ever mention that skogging is only for long distances.
so let's try again. skogging is alternating your pushing legs to move your board forward, backward, and sideways if you turn hard enough wither way.
you can add style to it or look like a machine that never stops. either case is alternating your legs.
hope this defines the obvious.
Chris Yandall
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Rene Carrasco!
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On 4/25/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
Thanks Rene!
cYa
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Skogging......article.
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On 4/19/2006
Rene CANNONBALL Carrasco
wrote in from
United States
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Talofa ! Chris !
Dang, -I know I have your article on Skogging
somewhere around here......I was looking for it
the other day.....hmmmm.....
I'll get it to ya as soon as I can find it.
Take care,
.......-Rene C.
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Old Man River Rollin'
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On 4/16/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
Hi and Thanks for yakkin!
If you can hang on for 10 miles at the rate I travel and speed, I don't think skogging can be totally construed as an artistic dance. I'm just saying .. go beyond the mechanistic repetition of switching legs. Make some cranking turns to help perpetuate your speed and enjoy the transition of switching from side to side fluidlly so the goal of getting a good "total" body work-out can be attained. Try pumping on one foot? You'll understand what i'm talking about then.
The objective here is to get some exercise using your board by attacking the cement as an aggressive rhythmic jogger. The spice of the exercise is to make sure you roll on a complete exercise routine by forcing all of your balance capabilities to the edge of wiping out.
I appreciate the guys who can skog forever. But since when has quantity dictated the necessity to enjoy what we are talking about here? What is the point where you suggest alternating legs defines what you think is “proper”?
I can ride my unicycle for miles and miles but that effort is very repetitious. I can skog for 8-10 hours long distances. whoa. wow.
I think dancing down the pavement is something noteworthy when you consider the athleticism required.
This morning the pavement dance was a full circle starting at Crown Point to the South Mission Jetties and back. I suggest you guys come down and stop your yapping and do it. It’s like sidewalk surfing on steroids. I’ll have my Tracker Trucks set up for the long distance but overall, my 38” cambered/concave deck.. which anyone can make these days, with Original Trucks and Gumballs are my favorite exercise gym on wheels.
You guys are like way off based and perhaps my poor English is the problem. Actions speak louder than words. It’s not like I sit at these damn computers all day and massage text to make my point, I know what I’m doing. You?
:D
Chris {rollerskating, skiing, snowboarding, surfing, hiking, better shaped} Yandall
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oh no
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On 4/12/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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here comes the skancing page.
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you need a better word than 'skogging'
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On 4/12/2006 Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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Finally the penny dropped that the style of skating that Chris does is more of dance on wheels. Graceful and artistic it seems like a lot more than really jogging via a skateboard which is what the term 'skogging' implies. For the longest time that's what I thought we were discussing here. Hence my frequent references to boards that were low and light and well suited to be kicked with alternating legs for a long distance.
But Chris, your style is much more artistic than that used to efficiently push a longboard for many kilometres on the flats. Your style really deserves its own term, one that more accurately reflects its beauty and flow.
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Styl'n while Skogging
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On 4/6/2006 OldStoke
wrote in from
United States
(70.224.nnn.nnn)
O.K. , now I get it. I have been maintaining a high level of fitness and having fun at the same time, and though the young skaters think it's cool that a balding gray haired man like myself is on a longboard, to the enlightened I'm just a clumsy hack. I'm gonna work on the fluidity thing for sure.
I'm ready to check out the stickers, but lemme know when the Skogging personal trainer network gets a MI franchise. Who knows, maybe by then I'll get it down and I'll become the MI rep.
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never heard of skogging but use both legs
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
To those mentioning they never heard of skogging or why there is even a thread for it while they've been "doing it" all their lives and never knew there was a name for it.
There is no doubt a limited number of people on this planet that can alternate each foot in regular and mongo styles while carving and skumping for long distances. While any grasshopper can jump on a board and alternate each leg and think they got it down is not the point. In my opinion, as in proper jogging there are proper ways to skog so a total body work out is attained. If you are a downhill mogul skiier you might catch my drift. Picking out a path down the "fall line" and evenly distributing muscle effort and co-ordination so it becomes more than just alternating pushing legs. It becomes an upperbody exercise involving the lowerback distributing weight shifts in desirable positions while cranking turns and alternating pushing legs. If anyone has seen Dan Gessmers ballet video, it is clear in his world he has this down. If you multiply his movements in small increments of speed, you'll be inthe skogging zone. I have no doubt in my mind, being actively in the middle of this skateboard feat with crowds cheering me on and today's conventional skaters respecting the movement, that skogging is more than just alternating legs to get somewhere. It's a celebration of skate dancing with gravitational forces in a symmetrical effort and the result is an enlightened exercise routine.
click for stickers
Cheers mates
Chris Yandall
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Crankin Skogging Turns
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
Original Trucks, Gumballs de jour and a 38 Special.
Cranking hard turns on either leg while skogging is probably just as much fun as catching christ air!
checking in with this forum is my favorite part of the day :D but for now.. back to slinging HTML all over the planet.
I'll be down in Mission Beach this weekend. Anyone wanna hook up, let me know! It's a good 8-10 mile skog all around the coolest areas of Mission Beach/Bay and PB.
cYa
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SERIOUSLY!
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On 4/5/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.167.nnn.nnn)
 NICE!
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endurance event
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On 4/3/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Endurance and Skateboarding - huzzzah!! If you ever make it up north, join us on the Solstice 13 or 26 miler, charity for the King County homeless/emergency shelters etc... Pumping encouraged, pushing accepted, spandex strongly discouraged.
http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=231#signup
Yes someday we'll all retire on tropical islands from the multi-millions made in skateboard sales! ;-)
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Cut the Jive and Jog :P
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On 4/2/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
endurance and skateboarding? :D . marketing boards keeps getting more imaginative but the more and more this old man skates the more and more he prefers to be a few inches off the ground.
as for that bloody article back in the 70's, I'd sure love to find that too soon. got a few promises to get it so soon yea?
and yes my skogging days keep on keeping on. lately, i've stepped it up(so to speak) to mongo(thanks for the def, guys!) pushing switch foot forcing mongo with either leg. it's real challenge but the next is to figure out pumping strong in the unnatural position. i think by the time i'm 60, i'll have it down.
i'd say in the last 2 weeks, i've only missed a few days skogging 10-15 miles a day! but some people have to work :D . looking forward to the days I can mix it up more.
i wrote 'cut the jive and jog' 25 years ago in an attempt to get more people thinking strongly about switch-foot pedaling which led to today's skogging.
it's time to whip out the clinics and the boards :D
stickers are available. just email me for details.
blessings to all RIP IT UP!
cYa
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97/145mm wheelz
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On 4/2/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Oldstoke, the 145mm's have an easy top-end coasting speed, but the 97mm's have less inertia at the usual 10--15mph push speeds, partly because of the magic green urethane? -and a wider contact patch for better grip when you need it, with one foot up on a grip-taped fender I can pump the yellow Sportster when tired of pushing. Erin, I've tested 75-85mm wheels, especially like the Avilas! --but needed a lot of riser/jacking up to compensate for the massive drop deck (ergo, the bottom-out scratches on the decks!!) So for a distance 'pushing' production deck I definately think these are it, especially in Seattle. I mainly ride these on rainy days because of the fenders, and the fact that pumping on wet asphalt is a sketchy proposition! Stoke, for distance 'pumping' decks like Roe and LBL... check back on the Pumping forum as well!
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efficient alternate push decks
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On 3/29/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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James the Rolls Rolls triplets look so sweet!
OldStoke, I have also found that a lowered deck that is light and with a hint of flex to be the most comfortable and efficient alternate push deck. I lucked into a Landy DH maple/cf proto a few years back. It is such a dream board for alternate pushing and yet is equally competent when its comes to moderate to high speed downhill carving.
The lowered boards are so easy on the joints when it comes to pushing for 20 or 30 kilometres at a go. However lower is not enough. Many speedboards are low but HEAVY! A touch of carbon fibre or all cf decks like the Rolls Rolls seem to be what is needed for the long haul.
As for wheel size, I tend toward smaller wheels than James. I have run 83 flys but find them even a bit big for long distance alternate pushing. I have gone to Gumballs on the cf/wood DH and really enjoy how quickly they accelerate and how politely they maintain their speed.
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Rolls
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On 3/28/2006 OldStoke
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United States
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Wow, THREE Rolls Roll's? Are the 97mm flys really more efficient then the stock super large diameter skinny wheels? If so, to what do you attribute that?
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