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| Q&A: Chris Yandall on Skogging (417 Posts)
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Trucks and pump
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On 1/28/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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I have a set of stroker type trucks that i made,they have a very steep 65+ degrees(unintentional) effective geometry,without any of the binding effect that happens with regular trucks if you double wedge them.These trucks pump off a standstill unlike any thing i've ever tried, it's like standing on mechanical iguana,when you lean it back and forth its legs move and the thing just walks. At speed, it becomes very scary, when i first built it i did take it into the hills and probabely got welll into the 2o's with it. Now trackers ,184's, seem to be the opposite at low speed you can barely pump a long board with 184's on it but it can be pumped while going downhill well into the twenties perhaps even thirty.So there's probabely a certain truck/wheelbase combo that works best for a particular speed of skogging,really quick for skalking, slower responce for skunning.
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Skogging setup
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On 1/27/2006
Marc F
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
I haven't tried it out for skogging yet but I rode it down the hill near my house. It turns great, and I really like the Gumballs. The Gumballs have lots of urethane to soak up the rough road. I may be going skogging tomorrow so I will let you know how it works. I'll try to get some pictures.
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Skoggin' set up...
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On 1/27/2006 SS
wrote in from
United States
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Marc F. I like that set up!
Very nice.
How does it ride for skogging and pumping?
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skoggin stuff
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On 1/25/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.224.nnn.nnn)
Hey Rene' ! Glad to see God is chasing you back to LA!!! cool pix :P
and WOW neat board!
hope this image aint too big.... loading big images aint a good thing for these boards :(
anyways, here i am down at the bay getting a piece of my 10 mile skog down at crown point to south mission jetties and back. Great to be slimmed back down again. I was getting like WAY too fat. The lord wants me to be a good structural example so keeping in shape is part of HIS perfect ways...
meanwhile, back at the ranch.. t-shirt designs almost done and stickers too :P
hehehehe
i never thought i'd get back into retail business but it looks like i'm deesitined to do it again. testing the waters for years but never really got serious. It's time!
i put some new skogging videos up on skogging.com . Ever watch jogging on video? boring as crap. but ... on a deck it may be less boring for viewers looking for ideas on this "roll your own exercise" trip!
GET ON IT!
cheers mates!
Chris Yandall
p.s. 36" deck is cool but yhe 38" will be even cooler!
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New Skogging Setup
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On 1/25/2006
Marc F
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
Chris Yandall model, Tracker 106 Racetracks, and Abec 11 76mm Gumballs 78a
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diktionary clarifikation ;-)
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On 1/21/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
skumping is long distance Skateboard Pumping with never a foot to ground. 25 miles of flat and incline at just over 2 hours is where we're at for now, but its a new year!! the true skump session forces you to challenge hills that seem insurmountable at first...
it all mixes up quite well with skoggin. great vibes here cYa!
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sunny diego and skoggin' y0 momma
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On 1/21/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
this weeked i skumped up a storm. on my long skogging trips where i fall into a skateboard jogging zone, thoughts stream into my mind coloring the essence of my movements. lately, one thought(believe it or not) keeps pounding my face.
skogging, "the roll your own exercise".
yep! skumping my pumping into the skogging world is my favorite thorough rolling body massage. my calves, thighs, waist-line are thoroughly challenged. i dont think there are a lot of kids over 50 even thinking about getting on a board. but if they do, i think this is the best wheelchair an old skateboarder can add to their quiver of skatercize. being an old bumpskiier, snowboarder, surfer, rollerskater, unicyclist and hiker... skogging, imho, is the best cross-trainer for my quiver of gravitating play toys.
i'm having trouble finding a reliable board mfg. someone who will make what i want and not what molds they have in stock and bend those to my shape. i may just get the presses and do them myself. i'm giving myself to the end of march to get production completed. (yes this means i'm shipping April fools day). in the mean time, i'll be selling "official chris yandall skogging" t-shirts or 20 bucks. i finally got my shopping cart software fixed. on www.skogging.com, starting next week, they will go on sale there and on www.chrisyandall.com . proceeds from the shirt will obviously go to the board mfg. i'm finding the deck design will be your standard low-cost 7 ply maple cambered/concave with a simple narrow tear drop design around 38"-40" . i like keeping the skateboard-ship in the "less is more" design arena too. i've been riding these boards for almost 30 years in this general shape starting from the original fibre-flex(1975) days thru my detroit 7ply wood laminate days(80's) and up to now seeing sector 9 taking off with that standard as well.
amazing how things come full circle. my kids are all almost out of the house and my body is ready to get back into recreation. i'll still be serving up websites from my business servers that I admin. i'm not too bad at putting up low-res videos on the web. currently my daily activities include web development for over 200 sites. i'm busy, and a 1 man operation that i get by with a little help from my friends.
skogging is about to become a household term for those wanting to transcend the boring evening walk or jog. i want all the kids learning to skateboard to make switch-foot and switch-stance a standard skateboarding discipline. my goal for skogging is to add a new exercise system for mankind. think of it as a skateboard yoga exercise that almost makes mind games such astral projection a reality(cement flying e.g.). think of it as one way to show others that skateboarding isn't only for snotty nose ollie'ing brats and stuck-up vert riders... it's for everyone that has a built-in nourished skateboard gyroscope and desire to skateboard to a different beat of the drum.
you can skog for 1 mile sprint and get a leg burn equal to none. you can combo skog and pump(skump) for 10 miles and get your t-shirt totally wet with sweat. you can mix a freestyle routine into your skog.
YEP, IT'S THE BEST ROLL YOUR OWN EXERCISE ON THE PLANET. CAN YOU FEEL IT BROTHERS AND SISTERS??? AMEN Y0
cheers you all!
Chris < www.cyask8.com >Yandall
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Reflex Gumballs? I'M IN!
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On 1/19/2006
Sean C.
wrote in from
United States
(167.206.nnn.nnn)
Whoa whoa whoa... Slow down... MAKE THESE WHEELS! Gumballs in 80a and 83a Reflex formula would be NUTS! You have to make them. GS and Skumping and Pumping and Skogging and Scooping and Dooping and Bopping and Mopping and Frooting and... WILL BE CHANGED FOREVER!!!
Make these Chaput... Or you'll have to take the risk of having silversurfer track you down and take your life... or just take all of your wheels...
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Reflex Gumballs with Special Lip!
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On 1/18/2006
silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Chris Chaput please make those Reflex formula Gumballs with the special lip detail for production! Or at least e-mail some info on how I can get a set of those! And since Chris Yandall is using Original trucks that don't use urethane bushings, I'd love to get a chance to try those too!;)
Can you picture a Chris Yandall Skogging/Pumping Deck with some Liquid carving/pumping trucks and some Reflex Uber Gumballs?
Come on guys, make it happen! Preferably before I'm as old as CYA.:)
C.Yandall please get those decks back into production! With the advent of this new skogging forum a lot of people want to try skogging and your decks!
Specialized equipment for skogging/pumping Yeah!
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You're Right...
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On 1/17/2006
Chris Chaput
wrote in from
United States
(66.116.nnn.nnn)
...you are too old. Look how the green has faded in this forum! We just started shipping our new stuff today. You'll like the 70mm Retro ZigZags for quicker turning, but I've got a 80a lime and 83a lemon "Reflex" formula that I can pour into a Gumball mold with a special lip detail that you will go ape over. I can probably put a few secret bushings in your trucks too. Shhhhh. The spies can here us....
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herbn, seen the video?
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On 1/17/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.224.nnn.nnn)
http://skogging.com/ncdsa/MB/shadowsteps.html
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wider than your foot - cambered / concave design
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On 1/14/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(70.95.nnn.nnn)
with this image, narrowness for the width of ones foot. loose original trucks for fooling around. gumballs rock.
cYa
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wider than your foot?
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On 1/14/2006 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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while pushing?across sideways,i guess.
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sliver srufer Q's
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On 1/13/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.224.nnn.nnn)
Hi
[[[sliver srufer]]] :D
[[[Chris what equipment have you tried or experimented with for skogging and pumping? Either alone or in combination.]]]]
right now, i have 2 setups. 1 geared for skumping and the other strictly for skogging(o pumping)
One geared for skumping is a 38" concave/cambered deck with very wide originals
and those big GREEN 76mm gumbals 81a's.
[[[What have you found to work best? Chris Chaput has said that there is pleny of room for improvement in this area, and has new Retro Zig Zag wheels coming out on Friday that he says are perfect for our applications. He mentioned that trucks would be next on his agenda.]]]
I just like nice big wheels to roll over as much as possible that have a smooth roll and nice bouyant resilience. Dunno why Chapu hasn't sent me any stuff to work on. I think he thinks I'm too old or something :D
[[[I know you have been experimenting with decks for skogging/pumping, and new
developments? Any chance of new CYA skogging/pumping deck coming out in the
near future?]]]
I really like a narrow cambered/concave deck. the wheels and trucks are all up to the preference of riding style. I don't think there will be a shoe, fits all. I sure love riding my originals way loose. :D anything much wider than your foot will be excess baggage from my point of view and narrow boards are great for pumping.
[[[From what is currently available can you recommend any set ups that skaters
could start with for this disipline?]]]
i think any board will do for beginners. anything over 40" and shorter than 35" is unneeded baggage. keep it simple. my ollie crazy son, can skog on his double kicktail deck. has a very hard time keeping up with me with both legs but with one leg, he can push almost faster than I over a 1 mile skog.
[[[And finally, you have mentioned that you would at some point post your old skateboarder article "cut the jive and jog" and perhaps some new articles either on your website or perhaps here. I'd love to see that happen soon.]]]
OK OK OK :P
[[[Thanks for the great forum!]]]
dude, i think ANY skateboarder can profit from skogging. it is a great crosstrainer for snowboarding, surfing and skiing and more!!! this forum will be here for those who also figure they are too old to skate and need a unique way to exercise. I say to all of you reading this forum, PEDIDEXTERITY RULES! Use both legs to push and your mind will gain more momentum for other complex balance demanding required exercises.
cYa
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Skogging Setup
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On 1/12/2006
Marc F.
wrote in from
United States
(152.163.nnn.nnn)
I haven't had enough riding to time to find the perfect board but here is what I think would work good for skogging. I think the cambered deck is the way to go. I use a Gravity 37" diamond tail. It has a short nose and tail, has lots of camber, and slight flex. I use Randall 150's but Tracker Race Track 149's would work good also. I do alot of pumping so I like the camber board and loose trucks. I also think you need 76mm wheels. The Abec 11 Gumballs seem to work really good because the wheels have alot of urethane to soak up the bumps. I'm using Kryptonics right now but I think I'm going with the Gumballs instead. This is my opinion on a good setup. I would like to hear other peoples setups also. It is also good to wear a camelback on long rides for hydration in the summer.
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Equipment
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On 1/12/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Chris what equipment have you tried or experimented with for skogging and pumping? Either alone or in combination.
What have you found to work best? Chris Chaput has said that there is pleny of
room for improvement in this area, and has new Retro Zig Zag wheels coming out
on Friday that he says are perfect for our applications. He mentioned that trucks would be next on his agenda.
I know you have been experimenting with decks for skogging/pumping, and new
developments? Any chance of new CYA skogging/pumping deck coming out in the
near future?
From what is currently available can you recommend any set ups that skaters
could start with for this disipline?
And finally, you have mentioned that you would at some point post your old skateboarder article "cut the jive and jog" and perhaps some new articles either on your website or perhaps here. I'd love to see that happen soon.
Thanks for the great forum!
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PEDIDEXTERITY
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On 1/11/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.224.nnn.nnn)
PEDIDEXTERITY !
let's see, ambideterous is a cool word but even cooler is pedidexter
DOESN'T MATTER WHICH FOOT IS IN FRONT. ONCE YOU GET GOOD ENOUGH, EITHER WORKS FINE. I FIND MYSELF FORGETTING WHICH FOOT IS THE FAVORED ONE. I ALSO AM BEGINING TO GET A BIT GOOFIER WITH MY PUMP AS TIME GOES ON.
THANKS TO SKOGGING, BOTH WAYS CAN MAKE YOU A PEDIDEXTEROUS FOOL.!
<shift - lock disease off;>
cYa
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Foot placement
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On 1/10/2006
Marc F.
wrote in from
United States
(205.188.nnn.nnn)
When I skateboard, I push with the left foot and the right foot is on the front of the board (goofy). Today on my first skogging session I noticed when I was ready to alternate my pushing leg, when I placed my left foot on the rear of the deck near the back truck, I lost control and fell off the board. As I kept practicing I tried moving the rear foot up closer to the middle of the board and it was much easier to contol the board.
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Curious....
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On 1/10/2006 Lenny- DHB
wrote in from
United States
(70.105.nnn.nnn)
Marc and I were talking about skogging the other day. It sounds like a fun exercise. What are some suggestions for skogging set-ups?
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sorry but...
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On 1/10/2006
Mike Moore
wrote in from
United States
(69.153.nnn.nnn)
Sorry to come off like the dummy here but..
Skogging="Skate Jogging"?
By the viddy's I'm guessing it's a matter of pushing equally with both legs?
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Mark's rides and equipment..
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On 1/10/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
United States
(71.192.nnn.nnn)
Cool, Marc.
I'd love to see your equipment, ect!
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Skogging for my first time
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On 1/10/2006
Marc F
wrote in from
United States
(64.12.nnn.nnn)
I tried skogging for the first time today. I went 4 miles. When I tried to switch I had trouble pushing with the other foot.. Around 2 miles out I got a little better. Skogging is great exercise. I just need to practice more. I'll try sending some pics next time of my route and my equipment.
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Video on the skogging step(s)
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On 1/9/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.224.nnn.nnn)
shadow skogging steps with cYa.
maybe another view to help others see and perhaps feel ?
http://skogging.com/ncdsa/MB/shadowsteps.html
Chris Yandall
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