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Wheelbase + Pumping
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On 12/15/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(69.161.nnn.nnn)
Tom, if you put a board's wheelbase into the context of comparison of a ski or snowboard's sidecut, then you can see that a shorter board or ski is used for shorter turns. So, yeah, you can pump on a long wheelbase, But, the timing gets elongated and effort gets higher. You won't do Slalom type turns, you'll do G.S. to Super-G turns, and at the speeds those turns carry.. Skateboards are different though in that the steering can be manipulated, and that the flex/rebound are somewhat decoupled from the steer rates. Put different trucks, or wedge the trucks, or heck,even change the bushings, and the turn rate and effort change. Run the same wheelbase, but on a stiff board, or then on a flexier board, and again, turn rate and effort change. What size, and what rhythym turns do you want? That's the question you gotta ask yourself, and then build up the combo of equipment on the board to suit the turns you want to make.
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pumping range
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On 12/15/2004 tom in toronto
wrote in from
Canada
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not really pumping yet but starting to get the hang of it...finding a short wheelbase (15" or so) to be manouverable in a sort of stiff-legged scissor motion...but I don't think it's real pumping...wanna know if a 27" wheelbase is pumpable or should it be shorter?
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High Speed Stance
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On 12/6/2004
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(168.253.nnn.nnn)
between 20-30mph I like to stand up erect to feel the speed. 30-40 I get down a bit to avoid cart wheels on a surprise equipment. over that speed, i like to stay low :D
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whatz the best tuck'n'technique
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On 11/27/2004
bikemike
wrote in from
United States
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whatz the best tuck'n'technique that you guyz have learn'd from?
I mean for bombin' hillz.
I'm just wondering
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Skogging Technique View
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On 11/25/2004
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.101.nnn.nnn)
A quick step view |
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MY FEETS ;D
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On 11/25/2004
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.101.nnn.nnn)
Whoa. I was such a beach rat back in my late teens.
That pic was just after a 40mph crash at 40mph at La Costa. the worst part of that crash was a nice south swell hit the next week and talk about festering wounds for months :D A guy actually has the entire video of it.
It hasnt been the dumbest thing I've done. i've regained consciousness several times in the ski patrol lodge from doing head bounces off of crazy air. the list goes on but suffice it to say, turning 50 a few weeks ago was a nice smack in the face to check the age oil and be pleased I have a steady routine of getting my heart rate up everyday at least once. Skogging. I'm finding it a great meditative aerobic exercise. keeps my legs in shape for rollerskating(yep, I'm into dance), skiiing(still love bumps on skiis). so the exercise recipe is mixing pumping and skogging during a 5 mile stretch of flat smooth surfaces... like the boardwalk in mission beach. watch out for bikers though..they think they own the boardwalk. i actually caught up to a pack of speed bladers and they were shaking their heads that I was keeping up with them.
it's spooky at first at high speeds but once you start booking.... you have a hard time stopping. ;D if you think of it as cross country skiing on a skateboard, you might catch my drift. using one leg to push for miles and miles is unnecessary stress.
I think this opens up a whole new avenue of using your board for structured exercise. and I hate jogging for exercise. so borrrrrrrrring and quite frankly pretty bone jarring. and by skogging, you test your balance and your stamina and people look at you and wonder what the hell you're doing as you keep a swift smooth gate. I alternate 3 strokes per leg to maintain a 15mph clip over a 1/4 mile stretch.
and do i wear shoes today? i have wimpy feet now. my feet burn on hot asphalt in the summer where as in that picture, they could withstand almost anything except serious asphalt burn.
Cheers
Chris Yandall
p.s. skipped skating today but will be down in MB sometime early afternoon tomorrow.
fyi. so my batch brand of boards will be the 34-38" range varying from 8 3/4 - 9.5 wide(only on the 36") .
and on a goofier note, rollerskating quad in the bowls seems to be much easier now since I took up rollerskating dance weekly. if you're in san diego, www.sandiegoskateworld.com Tues. adult night is a good night to quad or blade.(i still dont like inline skates for indoor) but I'm there breakin a hellacious sweat.
i'm really trying to get back on the skate scene. i should be joining up with heidi at spaUSA.org to help get some skateboard park leagues going. from that, perhaps a san diego racing circuit. time's ripe again.
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shoes
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On 11/23/2004
slim
wrote in from
United States
(69.106.nnn.nnn)
Hi Chris, it's cool reading how stoked you are on the pumping and skogging and seeing you promoting it to others.
Hope you wear shoes these days!
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Skogging Technique
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On 11/19/2004
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
(68.101.nnn.nnn)
Ever since I took up skogging, I've lost some major weight and gained some awesome body tone. 3-5 mile skog outtings mixed with "pumpin' your deck" is what I preach on the mission beach boardwalks. skoggers get more pedidextrous exercise for all sports and it's easier to learn than an ollie for you old F's. and for godz sakes, less bone jarring stuff.(just don't fall)
I'm up to train anyone who wants to learn faster. Just meet down at one of the coolest boardwalks on the planet to skate. From Crystal Pier in PB to the south mission jetty and back is a good traverse. We end up at Hennesseys, Lahainas, Sandbar or Guava Beach for a skatecap. This is great exercise for my legs in training to hit the slopes with my skiis. i miss the moguls!
My son picked it(skogging) up right away. My older brother said it's impossible :D
www.skogging.com for more info.
It was time for another post here, eh?
Uber und aus!
Chris Yandall
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On 10/29/2004
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(69.85.nnn.nnn)
Hey buddy! Keep it out of the gutter ok? I KNOW where the G-SPOT is... I'm after the G-Stop. I got it confused a while back and now my girlfriend is all rashed up.
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On 10/29/2004
Pat
wrote in from
United States
(63.231.nnn.nnn)
No, no, no.
The G-Spto(sp?) is NOT a myth. If you can't find it, get a book. It is somewhat elusive, but if you find it, it is well worth thr trouble.
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On 10/29/2004 Miko
wrote in from
United States
(66.81.nnn.nnn)
Re: Grav-Stop... If no one answers here, I'm going to start asking in all the other forums cause I think it may be sneaking around from group to group...
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On 10/29/2004
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(66.81.nnn.nnn)
I'm thinking that the G-Stop may be just a pendulum. If you *really* use your imagination, you might visualize a G being formed by an extremely backwards pendy. Sound promising??? C'mon G-Stoppers! Let's hear the word on this technique!
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On 10/29/2004 david
wrote in from
United States
(68.165.nnn.nnn)
i figured it was just another name for some kind of slide. i mean gravitional stop, how can you use gravity to stop you if you are going downhill?
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On 10/29/2004
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(66.81.nnn.nnn)
All right! The challenge goes out... Someone show us what the elusive G-Stop is all about (or feggidaboudit).
Shnitzel! You know about the G-Stop??? GI Joe? Smouse?! Cavey??? Hoonose?????!!!!!!!! Maybe it's old school and we need to get Dansie and Mallard on it... maybe Chaput???
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On 10/29/2004 hc
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
miko, i have no idea what that guy was talking about.
we asked, but got no answer....
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On 10/28/2004
Miko
wrote in from
United States
(66.81.nnn.nnn)
I'm curious about the seldom seen ANTI-Gravitational stop?
It's probably just the opposite of the Grav-Stop, or G-Stop for short, but I just want to be sure. Wutsup with the Grav' thing?
Is it a cult or something?
HC??? Do you know what they're talking about?????? I'm just a stinkin' slalom guy ferchrisake! Slidin' and footbrakin' are all I know...
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On 10/28/2004 Mike P
wrote in from
United States
(69.107.nnn.nnn)
A little more info about wobbles:
Ur truck's natural position is to have the wheels behind the rotating axis (king pin.) However, u may notice that on ur front truck, the wheels r in front of the axis (by nature of the way they turn.) Speed wobbles happen when u lock ur ankles as brendedn said, and if ur goin fast enough, that front truck will actually try to spin all the way around to its natural position. obviously it cant do that, so after it shoots a little in one direction, it shoots back, and keeps goin. This is y when u feel it comin, u gotta relax ur ankles, and take a deep breath. However, that is only the first part. u also need to lean forward on ur front truck. ur board is essentially trying to make a circle in one direction or another, so think about ur board as a tangent on that circle. u want the front of the board on the circle, and the back part dragging behind the circle (even if ur goin in a straight line.) This makes the front truch want to turn less, therefore less wobble. y do u think speedboarders ride on w/ their front foot almost over their truck. they also lean heavily on their front foot in a speed stance. this can be seen in any pic of speedskaters. thats y they dont wobble. and neither will u.
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On 10/25/2004 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(24.53.nnn.nnn)
This little gem is the BEST advice I've seen here in awhile! Never drop in on a hill unless you know it well.If you don't know it,WALK UP IT first! From the previous post;
"Also, scope your run and don't be stupid about which hills you hit; if you hit something your really scared to do, your risk goes up drastically for crashing."
Amen.
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On 10/25/2004
Brendan
wrote in from
United States
(68.101.nnn.nnn)
Speed wobbles occur when you lock up your ankles and get uncomfortable with the situation your in. What happens is your board picthes to one side and since your ankles are locked up you hit the edge of how far your board can turn and get kind of bouced to the other side and it generally tends to be fast and violent. I've only had it a few times and it's not something I wanna try again in a hurry. The culprits for this menace tend to be an inexperienced rider bombing something they're not comfortable with, that means they freak and lock up causing wobbs. The second most common one is standing too far back on the board, longboards don't steer from the back well and tend to bitch at you if you try it. So have your front truck a little looser than your back one and unless you're doing slalom or carving or the likes stay foward. if you keep your weight centered between a few inches(depending on board length) in front of your back truck and the back bolts on your front truck. This seems to eliminate the wobbs as a factor on most of my runs. Also, scope your run and don't be stupid about which hills you hit; if you hit something your really scared to do, your risk goes up drastically for crashing. Wear pads, I'm a big advocate of pads and gloves, even if you don't crash they give you confidence and therefore less chance to crash from wobbs. As for trying to slide to stop wobbs this seems like a bad idea. In 99% of the cases I've seen when people get low (which you have to do to slide) they tend to get the wobbs even worse and bail. My advice is this: if you get wobbs, 1)stand up and spread to air-brake a little, 2)move your stance foward carefully, 3)if you don't feel comfortable but the wobbs have stopped get low and slide to stop, 4)if you feel in control and better about the hill, go for it!
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On 9/14/2004
betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
I am learning to slide, actually, I got my stoke on it, gonna get some slide gear gloves, I've got some good hard wheels and have been checking out some different sites on it, you know, what Cliff's got to say, Wang Chung, Hung Chang, that's it, that site.
I just don't wanna be wobblin' and try to bail, but yeah, sliding, carving, I see where you're going with all this. THANKS
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On 9/12/2004 hc
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
betty, I got some tips on my bombing page.
http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/bombing.html
but I recommend that you learn sliding, you can use it when you feel that you are wobbing out of control.
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On 9/9/2004 Joe Iacovelli
wrote in from
United States
(63.87.nnn.nnn)
Speed Wobbles?
Turn your board.
Joe
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On 9/9/2004 betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
alright, mostly what I am seeing, and I have been going back through older posts looking for, is sliding and I need speed wobble stopping techniques. I don't think speed wobbles, I've ever had them. However, I do plan on getting them, as I enjoy speed, so... I read on a post to put your weight on the front truck, but of the viddy's I've been seeing, the wobbles are your back foot, the board begins to wobble back and forth throwing your balance off to one side. I am goofy.
Is this like fishtailing in a vehicle? For this you typically increase or decrease speed to pull yourself out of it before you lose control. You can't just press the gas/break on a longboard though. Tips/Tricks?
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On 8/18/2004 WINSTON T.GRANT
wrote in from
United States
(172.133.nnn.nnn)
CAN ANYONE PREVAIL UPON MARK SCOTT (President,DREAMLAND SKATEPARKS)TO GIVE US A LITTLE BREAKDOWN ON THE ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE MOVE?
(i.e. how he managed the high-speed FULL LOOP?) (go to dreamland's site to see it)DAYUM!! let's face FACTS--He just BLEW BY a WHOLE MOB of people with that one--900 be DAMNED!(sorry, Tony and Sandro--but until you pop THIS, you just AIN'T the ONE no mo'----)
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On 8/5/2004 AenGhooste
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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sorry if that sounded harsh, bad day in the call center...
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