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ACE 00
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On 1/30/2009 Curt
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hey SC and Vince,
I am thinking of:
Ace 00 front.
29 Inch T/S Deck
3DM 105mm Rear
I have an Indy 109 already. Do you think it is worth the further investment of
an Ace. IE Insted of the Indy?
I have several Duro Stims from Geezer. I am a recent convert to Venom.
Again; are they going to marry or clash?
Thanks for your kind opinions guys
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Electric Skateboard Trucks
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On 1/23/2009
Richie de Losada
wrote in from
United States
(209.77.nnn.nnn)
Hey looking for Electric Skateboard Truck , send me an email and we can hook up on the phone
I have a couple pair and I can get you as many set of trucks as you need.
rollingpictures@mcn.org
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Electric Skateboard Trucks
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On 1/22/2009 Electric Skate Boarder
wrote in from
United States
(75.23.nnn.nnn)
I am looking for the trucks to build an electric skateboard. I am looking to purchase them wholesale in bulk. Any ideas out there. Thx.
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ace = good for slalom
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On 1/22/2009
sc
wrote in from
United States
(68.225.nnn.nnn)
Ace trucks are great for slalom. The 00 is very close to the beloved Indy 101/9 in geometry. Ace also have much higher quality control than Indys. One difference worth noting is that Ace has a much larger hole on the hanger for the kingpin. It makes for a very lose truck but also means that you have to have bushings that fit the bushing seat exactly to avoid slop. I use the old Geezer-X trick of lathing a lip in each bushing that extends down into the kingpin hole, effectively filling the gap between the kingpin and the hanger and removing slop. You need to start with a tall bushing to do it, like a Stim or a bushings cut from a wheel with a hole saw. Well worth the effort.
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Ace Trucks
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On 1/22/2009
Vince
wrote in from
United States
(167.199.nnn.nnn)
Does anyone have an opinion of Ace Trucks for slalom?
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Radikal
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On 1/13/2009 MP / Speedo
wrote in from
United States
(71.53.nnn.nnn)
Call Keith (877) 723-7587.
That's his job.
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Ball-socket sticktion
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On 1/11/2009 PSR
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Stumped, that should be an arbor-pressed part, and as such, won't come out with being pressed back out, the OPPOSITE DIRECTION it as pressed in. Any attemt at pressing it out should be done only after very careful inspection of the hanger. My best advice, send it back to Radikal, let them fix it!
As for freeing the inner ball from the outer sleeve, again, it's not something you should have to Force, much. Spinning the spherical (ball) joint can free it, but use 'low-torque' if trying this with a bolt+spacers and electric screwdriver. As Pierre noted, Don't Overdo It. It might be beneficial to clamp(use felt to pad the hanger in any vise!) the hanger, insert the bolt+spacers, tighten, and lube the ball-socket with a penetrant oil 1st, then wiggle/rotate with vice-grips on thru-bolt 2nd. DON'T use HEAT!! If it feels 'wiggley', maybe a dead-blow hammer used softly may loosen it more. The likelyhood is that dirt or bits of grommet have gummed the works up, but corrosion may be the culprit, whereupon, Radikal should fix this. Good luck, and be patient...
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Jammed spherical
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On 1/11/2009
Pierre Gravel
wrote in from
Canada
(70.81.nnn.nnn)
You can try spinning it with a drill, use a kingpin.
1- Place the kingpinin the spherical and tight it using an old loose locknut, 10mm spacer are great if you have some.
2-Place the kingpin in the drill and make it spin for a few seconds holding the hanger tightly
3- Check if it becomes looser, don't over do it.
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radikal dragons claw.
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On 1/10/2009
stumped
wrote in from
United States
(72.179.nnn.nnn)
Does anybody know what to do about a frozen spherical bearing in the hanger? Does this thing pop out?
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VICE TRUX
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On 12/30/2008 M4RC10
wrote in from
Brazil
(201.14.nnn.nnn)
hc, where may I find videos of the Vice Trux making turns?
I want to see how they work... Thanks
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Jim Z base plates.
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On 12/24/2008
Lusting fool.
wrote in from
United States
(72.179.nnn.nnn)
Does Jim still make the baseplates? I checked his speed parts site. Just bushings and axles. If no anybody whanna sell some? Best.
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not my vice of choice
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On 12/23/2008
sc
wrote in from
United States
(63.199.nnn.nnn)
hc, thanks for posting that. Pretty amazing in some ways, but ... don't mean to be a h8a here, but ... the truck's suspension seems like it would do exactly the opposite of what we are always trying to achieve, traction-wise.
Then to rub it in, the video shows a bunch of skaters in a sick ditch, just going straight down at the bottom, completely wasting the ditch, only a couple guys out of the crowd riding the banks.
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vice suspension
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On 12/23/2008 hc
wrote in from
United States
(98.207.nnn.nnn)
http://www.vicetrux.com/
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plain silver venture trucks
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On 12/4/2008 shane d
wrote in from
United States
(208.108.nnn.nnn)
these trucks kick ass. they cost $19 brand new and even less on Ebay. ive had mine for 2 years and theyve done me well.
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Vectors ... seismic... randall and pics
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On 11/6/2008 Bernie
wrote in from
United States
(207.114.nnn.nnn)
So from what "Pre-School Rider" says i assume the bennet vectors are much turnier but at less stability. So far my favorite trucks have been the randalls and the seismics for sure. Ive been skating hard last week with my new flexex and im still surprised at the good quality of this board and good performance.
I have been power-sliding like theres no tomorrow and carving too. Pretty cool experience.
P.D. : How do i post pictures? I have some pictures of my setup and some others carving and stuff
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trucks
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On 11/4/2008
caddy
wrote in from
United States
(209.237.nnn.nnn)
Pics!
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Why Bennetts
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On 11/4/2008 Pre-School Rider
wrote in from
United States
(75.68.nnn.nnn)
Bernie, Vectors were once (back in the early 80's) the 'quick-turning' truck to have (as were Bennetts from the 70's, but those had plastic baseplates that would, in time, crack if ridden hard). Many trucks of that era were decidedly quicker turning than Indy's or Trackers (Lazer, ACS, American Mag, Cal Slalom, Energy), but as Skateboarding went to Vert + Bowls, instability was an issue, so manuverability was not what was needed. Bennett kinda faded out with the early 80's downturn in skateboarding popularity, and when skateboarding re-emerged in the late 80's, it was in 3 venues; Vert, Street, Freestyle.
Fast-Forward to today, and people are 'cruising' again, doing Slalom, shooting down hills, riding longboards, and 'retro' board shapes are re-appearing. Bennett jumped back into the game, bringing their tried + true Vector back outa retirement. The only other truck I can think of that has it's design date back to the late 70's and currently on the market is Tracker's MidTracker + Fulltracker (maybe the Extrack?). Indy does come from that timeline, but is a different truck from it's early models. So, if you want that 'old school' surfy-turny feel without scouring the VintageSkateboard auctions on ebay, Vectors are a logical choice.
I prefer Trackers, btw. I just wedge them to suit, and slap in the right sized bushings. They may not turn as 'deep' as Vectors, but they're not as squirrely at speed either.
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bennet-vector
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On 11/3/2008 Bernie
wrote in from
United States
(207.114.nnn.nnn)
Hey so.. i have realized that there's plenty of boards out there with bennet-vector trucks on them. Yes, i have tried them only onse on a board before, but it was a borrowed board and i couldnt really use the for longer than 5 min.
Anyway, whats so special about those trucks? How come they are so popular?
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truckers and other trucks....
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On 11/1/2008 Bernie
wrote in from
United States
(207.114.nnn.nnn)
I have tried plenty of trucks... i would say after some years of experience that trackers are a good brand to start with. I mean they are pretty versatile and durable but if you want to specialize in something i'd get something else.
By the way I just bought seismic trucks for a flexdex pro40. The combination is just SO GOOD. It's such a good board, so easy to maneuver and so versatile in downhill applications. By versatile i mean it can bomb hills slide or do ditches or freestyling. Im usually aware of the point of "too fast" so at that point i usually slide, and the flexdex with the seismic trucks combination works great. Maybe i'll post some pictures later...
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tracker after thoughts
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On 10/25/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
even though the pivot angle on a tracker is pointed at the middle of the bushings,the bushings are at an angle to that axis so they would effect the axle path a bit,trying to imagine what that effect would be. Between the play at the pivot and the fact that the bushings don't really engage the hanger that solidly,the hanger is free to wander a bit under stress,long wheelrubs are evidence of this. The bushings would like the hanger follow the angle of the kingpin,but between the rounded bushing edges and rounded bushing seats in the hanger things can wander a bit, the pivotangle is probabely the dominant factor.
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spherical bearings
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On 10/25/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(67.83.nnn.nnn)
first off i agree 100% on the trackers,on a budget and with no machine shop,trackers would be my choice,no risers full clearence cutaway dh board,trackers are the way to go. I've seen that baumanns have a sperical pivot,they have one on the kingpin too? that seems stressful i would think there might be some binding up if all the ball joints had no play. Tough on kingpins.
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Rake
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On 10/25/2008 Glenn
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(84.9.nnn.nnn)
The Bauman has no choice but to follow the roll axis exactly as there are a couple of steel spherical bearings ensuring it can't roll around any other axis. Your theory about normal trucks turning around the pivot axis, at least at the start of a turn, is probably true and is quite possibly the little trick that Indy/Grindking/etc... have built their low truck businesses on. Bennetts, RTS/Dart and Lazers however have a more 'honest' pivot angle which points pretty much straight at the centre of the bushing ring.
I have a theory that this is where the old "trackers don't turn" theory comes from. Steep Pivots (as seen on Indys) turn much better than roll-axis pivots if the board is only going to be allowed to roll a few degrees. Stick on half an inch of riser and soft bushings and, to me at least, Trackers outperform Indys.
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roll axis
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On 10/20/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.251.nnn.nnn)
to me the "roll axis" is a bit vague on a baumann/indy/tracker... truck, most of the time i think they turn pretty much on the pivot angle,especially if they're really loose,when the bushings are hard and the tension is cranked down then it seems like they might pivot on the "roll axis"depending on the angle of the pivot and the angle of the kingpin AND the distance to the kingpin,it seems as though there's a big difference between the rake that's measured off the pivot's axis and the roll center.I'm gonna try and not spend any important time on this problem,just a few minutes a day.
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Rake
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On 10/20/2008 Glenn
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(84.9.nnn.nnn)
Isn't a zero rake truck one where the axle is in line with the roll axis of the truck (typically the line that runs from the pivot to the centre of the bushings, this roll axis should possibly be refered to as 'caster' but I don't want to add to the confusion). Isn't rake the distance the axle is offset from this axis?, i'm going to refer to the axle being nearer the tips of the board as a positive rake, not sure if that's right, i'm just picking a direction that i'm pretty sure i've heard others refer to to be honest.
Taking those, possibly wrong, assumptions further:
Zero rake Trucks:
Randal downhills, various exotic downhill custom trucks, Indy Offsets (where the offset brings them back from a positive rake).
Small Positive Offset trucks:
RII in he standard position, Splitfires, all GOGs except the Bauman.
Small negative offset trucks:
RII with a flipped hanger and a few others that work that way.
Positive offset trucks:
Most 'standard' trucks have a somewhat larger positive offset. Modern street style trucks tend to minimise this with lower axles as close to the kingpin as possible (hence the little bit of naked axle and the requirement for minimal top bushings) while Tracker RTS/RTX are a bit higher and more offset and Bennetts have the axle higher (we're talking upsidedown boards) and further out from the roll axis than any other truck i've seen. Old Lazer slaloms are similarly offset as are the Bauman GOGs, though possibly only as much as an RTX or similar.
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hhmm i thought i was wrong once......
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On 10/18/2008 herbn
wrote in from
United States
(71.125.nnn.nnn)
but i was mistaken. pics of bauman gog seem to be all the same sort of a bad angle for eyeing up the rake,a direct side view is perfect,but i thought i was guessing right that it has minimal rake,it is definitely set steep as hell in those pics. But i did find a pic on issa(?) website that is a direct side view,perfect if i had the slightest interest in copying this dominating design,and i was quite surprized,it's actually a negative rake truck, the axle is behind a imaginary line that goes through the middle of the pivot. I don't know what you're calling the rake,i wouldn't even try to argue with a record holding slalom rider unless i was certain. Maybe your looking at something else,but i do have a set of bennetts and they are positive rake trucks, the gog's rake has more in common with a indy offset,hutson circa 1977,naturally lots of other things are different.
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