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SUper Mundos
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On 8/19/1999
marc
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Hyper no longer makes the Super Mundo. Does anyone know of a place where you can still buy a few set?
They are a great wheel with a square profile. Very predictable, very fast...
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Polyurethane
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On 8/18/1999
Andrew Thomas
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For anyone interested in the chemical composition of
skateboard wheels check out the site on Adiprene and Hylene.
In the Adiprene page, note the hardness value (Hardness,
Shore A 71), and the rebound value (47%). Apparently,
Dupont did the urethane for the old Kryptonics. I don't
know if that's still the case.
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below
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On 8/18/1999 Mr*carve
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sorry dude, thats the wierdest sentance i've ever read!!!
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Sector 9 wheels 62/ 92 A
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On 8/17/1999
Sammy
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This a the best Wheels for a play skateboards in concrete Pool!!!!!!!
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SUMMIT DOWNHILL AND SLALOM SK8Boards and the legendary SUMMIT SLICK WHEELS TM
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On 8/16/1999
Mike
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Well i like to tell you that there is something going on in europe.specialy in switzerland. the most interesting thing is the SUMMIT SLICK WHEEL TM.It`s based not on PU it`s a real rubber tyer ! ( not air pumped ) The tracktion and the grip of this wheel will let you ride mountains, you enter a totaly new dimension of downhillsk8boarding.this is real Street surfing in it`s perfection !
So if you are planing on a trip to europa check out switzerland. and if you are arounde at the 27th of august
check out www.asphaltsurfing.ch or contact SUMMIT SK8boarding Corp. E-Mail: sk8boards@hotmail.com and ask 4
the full moon sk8 session on Grimselpass (up to 10 milles finest swiss concret)
Sk8 save !
Mike
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envy madrid tvs
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On 8/16/1999 Herb n
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On 8/6 I wrote in about madrid wheel that looked exactly like what you describe and the madrids look like budget envy wheels which say 82a on them
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TVS streetwheels
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On 8/15/1999 Jake
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They ROCK
clear black, blank, square profile, 72mm.. Kryptos I assume does anyone know how hard these are? They seem kinda soft, and they're really grippy. They ride awesome, and look really good.. *no ugly labeling*
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Fu Man Chu
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On 8/15/1999 Andrawls
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I saw these wheels in a skate shop. They are like 80mm and 80a and fairly narrow. I was woundering if any one here has used them before, and how do they ride.
have fun
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Kryptonics route 70s
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On 8/14/1999
Casey Crain
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I use the Krypto's 70's on my street luge, not my racing model, but my fun board. They grip like glue and are still fairly fast, the only trouble is they're to quiet, I get cussed at and get the finger all the time 'cause I sneak up on people, but overall they're really great grippyy fast wheels.
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Wheel Wisdom
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On 8/13/1999 Mario
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Ah... so its true that a wheel that breaks away cleanly and predictably is faster down a a tight, curvy road than a wheel that grips too well. And that's why I like Bones Bombers. I have no affiliation to Powell, but if I did I'd flow Mr. Coleman a set of 68mm 90A Bombers in a second. They are everything a wheel should be: center-set bearings, symmetrical, well radiused, fast, grippy and yet still allow loud controllable slides that will wake your neighbors. They come in 64mm, too and that's what I'm getting for my short (37") board. I have no experience with the softer ones (85A) but one guy I talked to said those were really great, too (he had 3 sets).
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Wheel Wisdom from Cliff Coleman
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On 8/13/1999 Lono
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Mr. Coleman was kind enough to send me this email when I asked him about which wheels HE likes...
"Regarding which wheels are good for sliding, there is not a decent wheel
out right now that I have seen. Most wheels are low durometer models and
are designed to grip the road. It is still possible to slide them, but
they are not as good as they could be for sliding.
First of all there are two types of sliding styles when skateboarding. One
style is racing and the other is more of a downhill freestyle. Let's first
talk about racing. For me I like to race steep and winding roads. This
requires a different type of wheel than one would need for the more
traditional style of racing that takes place currently. Currently the
downhill races are more like drag races. They don't have sharp turns and
are even straight line races sometimes. For a straight line race the
softer, lower durometer wheels are the best.
When you add sharp turns that are impossible to negotiate without sliding
you need a different style of wheel. To handle winding roads at speed it
is necessary to have a wheel that won't flat spot. If a rider slides a lot
he/she will wear out wheels fast! Once you have a flat spot the wheel is
ruined. Every time you slide the wheel will stop on the flat spot and it
will get progressively bigger until the wheel is actually dangerous. A
small flat spot will make the wheel sound like a bicycle with a card in the
spokes. If you keep riding and the flat spot gets larger, eventually the
board will simply spin right out from underneath you.
The best wheel I've found for racing winding roads is the "Super Mundo"
made by "Hyper". First, the wheel has a good hub design. It is large
enough to give a firm ride, yet the wheel still has enough urethane so that
it will last more than just a few a slides. To try and make this easier to
understand, with the old "Kryptonic" 70 mm wheels the hub was too small.
After sliding this wheel for a while the urethane portion of the wheel will
become smaller. When you slide after this happens the urethane portion of
the wheel will actually squish into a bell shape. This loads a lot of
energy that will be released when you exit the slide. Most riders are not
ready for this and get pitched off the front of the board. The "Super
Mundo" won't do this. I do wish the "Super Mundo" was slightly wider.
With the new "Kryptonic", "Gravity" and other wheels with a similar hub,
the hub is so large that if you slide very much the urethane will be worn
off and the hub will become exposed. Now your wheel is ruined. This could
happen in less than a day and sometimes in less than one skate run. The
reason for the similarity of these wheels is that most of them are made by
the same wheel manufacturer for the different companies and the hub design
is the same for most of these wheels.
I almost forgot, I haven't tried the "World Industries" wheel. I would
like to! Large wheels that are about 95 durometer are very interesting to
me.
Now, for downhill freestyle. If you are going to do a lot of slides you
will need a wheel with a harder durometer!!! Soft wheels are faster when
you don't slide. The irony is that they also slow you down faster than a
hard wheel when sliding. It is nice to have a wheel that has control when
sliding but will allow you to maintain your speed when exiting the slide.
My favorite wheel is not produced anymore. It is the old "Powell Mini
Cubic". This wheel doesn't have the durometer printed on the side of the
wheel, but I've been told that it is a 95 durometer wheel. This wheel
doesn't flat spot easily and has a wider surface area than most of the
wheels out today. It has a very controled slide and will allow you to
maintain speed when exiting the slide. I felt like shedding a tear when
these were discontinued.
Hard wheels are not the best for racing so most of the manufacturers aren't
making them in the sizes we need for sliding. Consequently, most
Longboarding wheels are soft and wear out too fast.
It is IMPORTANT to state that even with all of the publicity that I have
received for the "Coleman Slide" and my career of 39 years of skating, that
I am not sponsored and have not had an opportunity to try all of the new
wheels that are now on the market. I'm hoping to try the new "Cherry
Bombs". They have a wide surface area, seem to be harder and have plenty
of urethane to grind off while sliding to make them a long lasting wheel."
(Note: He also spoke about trucks, which I have posted on the trucks section.)
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Gyros - wheel history
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On 8/12/1999 Glen
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I had the old double conical gyros. I agree, they rattled a lot, weren't very fast and were real heavy. The bearings in mine also just dropped in and out. I was skating at Skatercross in Reseda CA one day and traded them to some guy for a set of Variflex C3's ( yes, they actually made real good, pro, products at one time ). The Variflex wheels were fast, light had a conical edge on the inside and a radius on the outside.
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Bones Videos....
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On 8/12/1999 eggman
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Lee,
Check out surf video network. They got lots of good videos. No longboarding vids, but lots of shortboarding ones. Ok, here is the address..
http://www.surfvideo.net/home.html
They ship real fast, so that is cool.
Later late.
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Bones Brigade Video
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On 8/12/1999 Lee
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Mario, (or anyone else)
Do you know where you can order the video online?
Thanx
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ENVY
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On 8/12/1999 essexBOY
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ENVY make a chrome core wheel with a clear wheel-the whole wheel looks like it's made of metal
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gyros
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On 8/10/1999 Herbn
wrote in from
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My gyros were kind of rattly, the bearings couldn't be pried but droped out easily, but mostly they were heavy but not really fast just sort of med. the aluminum core were way to thick ,those new wheels look like a improved version of Schmit stix turbines.
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good wheels for buddy
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On 8/10/1999 Mario (again)
wrote in from
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Buddy, you have to see the original Powell video, The Bones Brigade. You will not believe the incredible slides they do. Spins, reverts, frontside, backside, its insane. The guys (Peralta included) bomb this winding road and are doing these amazing slides around the corners, too. And they are going really fast. So, to answer your question, I don't think the sliding has anything to do with an inferior urethane compound. These guys would have made the right compound (for sliding) if it weren't already available.
As for race car tires, they are only changed if the time gained by putting on new rubber is going to offset the amount of time it takes to pit and change the tires. Often the driver stays out on "greasy" tires and just drives more conservatively. Many drivers try for a "one-stop" strategy - changing tires only once in a race instead of twice to try and make up time when others are pitting. There's a lot of strategy in what tire to use and when to change them and it probably doesn't need to be discussed here.
I never tried the old red c65 kryptos so I can't comment. My brother had the 70mm blues and they were really great. I have the new Route 66 70mm 78A Kryptos and can tell you that they do not wear well (bearings are not center set and the wheels aren't radiused enough). But they do grip well and are pretty fast. When you try to slide them its very difficult. They grip too well to slide and the urethane has a tendency to rip or chunk. They are definitely not a sliding wheel and maybe exactly what you are looking for.
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aluminum hubs
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On 8/10/1999 Mario
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I have some old Gyros from the late 70s. Gyros were the first wheels with hubs and they were aluminum. The bearing seat is very positive, but to get the bearings out you have to whack the wheel on the ground (don't try prying them out with axles!). If you are dying for a set I'd sell you mine, but you'd probably be disappointed with the urethane compound. Its grippy, but not very fast. Also, the wheel has no radiused edges.
I like the look of these new Power Paws. Can't wait to see a review here.
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metal core wheels
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On 8/10/1999
steve
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I have seen a bare metal core wheel before. It looked like an antique, but it was a skateboard wheel with what I'm guessing is a urethane tire. The set is in Circle A skateshop, downtown San Jose. They won't sell them to me, though.
steve
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The Aluminator
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On 8/10/1999
Andrew Thomas
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Get ready for the Aluminator!
Have you ever seen anything like this???
The new Power Paw! Apparently has "a three spoke dished
alloy t6 core". Will be available from www.longskate.com
in the next week or so. Will be $56 for a set of four.
Start saving your cash now! I am definitely getting these.
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good wheels
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On 8/9/1999 Buddy Hascal
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Mario: That was a good answer, one of the reasons I like to submit these questions.But what most people consider fun is that always the most practical? Race car tires do slide but whenthey do arent they changed somewhat immediately for new ones? How are the old c65 kryptos? The red ones?and these slide tricks,is someone famous from them because of a companys poor ability to produce a urathane compound that doesnt stick ? bring on the feedback
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good wheels - Buddy
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On 8/9/1999 Mario
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Buddy,
Any big soft wheel grips well and doesn't slide. For even wear they should have a center-set bearing and nicely radiused edges and if its a really soft wheel it needs a rigid core. Check the archives for what people consider "good". I like Bones Bombers the best.
If you think sliding has anything to do with "technical body positioning" you're sorely missing the point. Sliding around turns (on a skateboard or in a car) is what some people find the most fun. Deal with it. Even racing car tires slide when you push them to the limit. Oftentimes the tire that provides decent grip, breaks away smoothly and predictably, and has the most longevity is preferable to a super sticky gumball that chunks after a few laps. When you push any skateboard wheel to the limit its going to slide just the same. Finding one that does so predictably and still provides good grip allows you to hover safely at the limit of traction. The fact that you have no desrire to do so doesn't mean everyone else is doing it wrong. Also, there are a lot of tricks you can do while sliding ("slides" as it were). And there's nothing wrong with that, either.
So, next time you go out riding, instead of harshing on how other people ride (or snowboard), try having some fun with the limit of traction. It has nothing to do with crosstraining (?) and everything to do with fun.
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good wheels - Buddy
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On 8/9/1999 Mario
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Buddy,
Any big soft wheel grips well and doesn't slide. For even wear they should have a center-set bearing and nicely radiused edges and if its a really soft wheel it needs a rigid core. Check the archives for what people consider "good". I like Bones Bombers the best.
If you think sliding has anything to do with "technical body positioning" you're sorely missing the point. Sliding around turns (on a skateboard or in a car) is what some people find the most fun. Deal with it. Even racing car tires slide when you push them to the limit. Oftentimes the tire that provides decent grip, breaks away smoothly and predictably, and has the most longevity is preferable to a super sticky gumball that chunks after a few laps. When you push any skateboard wheel to the limit its going to slide just the same. Finding one that does so predictably and still provides good grip allows you to hover safely at the limit of traction. The fact that you have no desrire to do so doesn't mean everyone else is doing it wrong. Also, there are a lot of tricks you can do while sliding ("slides" as it were). And there's nothing wrong with that, either.
So, next time you go out riding, instead of harshing on how other people ride (or snowboard), try having some fun with the limit of traction. It has nothing to do with crosstraining (?) and everything to do with fun.
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pAYASO
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On 8/8/1999 i
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LOOK FOR a wide faced wheel.Payaso's Roadie Racer is hard to find, but worth the time
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good wheels
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On 8/8/1999 Buddy Hascal
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Are there any good wheels out there that dont slide? After all, some of us like to carve precision turns other than sliding.What technical body positioning does sliding offer other than incorrect shoulder,knee,hip and ankle placement.For the crosstraining snowborder I suppose that is fine seeing the majority has incorrect body positioning and slide their turns.Its a good thing that most car tires dont slide on turns or they might be shitty.
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