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Topic Freestyle Info
On 11/20/2001 TN - Trinity review. wrote in from (165.247.nnn.nnn)

Jeremy, gives us the low down on the Trinity Foster.

 
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On 11/20/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

was bruce walker a freestyler? any back round on him? (p.s. i just got one of those trinity foster freestyle decks, its bad!)

 
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On 11/20/2001 Glen wrote in from (64.171.nnn.nnn)

MSK, correct on both .
You win the praise of all your peers.

 
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On 11/20/2001 msk wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

I'm not sure, but I think that Gelfand may have already been riding for Powell by the time that Mullen started skating. In the late 70s, Mullen rode for Walker, and not only did he dominate freestyle (at least in his age group) back then, but he also raced slalom. An old Walker ad from has Mullen's results from the '79 Clearwater Pro/Am, and shows him winning 1st not only in freestyle, but also dual slalom AND giant slalom...

 
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On 11/20/2001 msk wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

The kickflip was invented by Curt Lindgren (try getting the groms at the local park to believe that one!), back around '75. Rodney Mullen created (or at least gets credit for) the "magic flip", which later took the name from Lindgren's move...

 
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On 11/20/2001 Scabs wrote in from (66.20.nnn.nnn)

Glen,
That would ad credibility to what I was saying. Not too many florida skaters got the hype like the cali boys but Rodney was a ratlander with definite street style. I think he was on a local team with Alan before hooking up with Powell but not sure.

Here`s a who`s who of Ratlanders and our parks....
Steve Anderson Chris Baucom BEAR Billy Beauregard Mark Buncy Steve Fisher Mike Folmer Alan Gelfand Scott Green John Grigley Chuck Hults Shaun Jackson Hunter Joslin Chuck Lagana Mark Lake Pat Love Kelly Lynn Jim McCall Scott McCranels Mike McGill Rodney Mullen Dan Murray Donny Myhre Sam Myhre Monty Nolder Shawn Peddie Clyde Rogers Paul Schmitt Tim Scroggs Buck Smith Bruce Walker Robbie Weir Chris West Ed Womble SIO Barry Zaritsky Skateboard Safari Sensation Basin Skateboard USA Tomoka Moon Forest Rainbow Wave Skateboard Heaven Saturn Skatepark Groundswell Skatepark Cadillac Wheels Skateboard Concourse Indian Harbor Beach Safe Surf Longwood Pipeline Kissimmee Skateboard Park The Bro Bowl Longwood Skatepark Skateboard City Skate Wave Surferdome The Paved Wave Kona Earth 'n Surf

 
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On 11/20/2001 psYch0Lloyd wrote in from (24.148.nnn.nnn)

One of my first images of skateboarding was what seemed to be a Freeformer Team demo outside a grocery store in Antioch, IL. There was one guy in particular that jumped grocery store carts and pretty much skated obstacle around him. I think it was Ty Page. Dan Gesmer by happenstance found out that an acquaintance was a close friend of Ty's family and actually got his home number from Ty's dad...

 
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On 11/19/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

Ty Paige was on the Freeformer team (not the answer to "who was the guy to do the first kickflip") and was a good freestyler, vert skater and skatecar downhill racer. He was a great skater who didn't get the "hero status" probably based on the fact that he was on the Freeformer team. They made everyone wear totally lame cordinated uniforms, and had some of the cheapest toy decks thus spoiling the image of anyone who was on the team.
He invented the "Ty slide", I think the "Rock walk", and was known for riding off of things, tables, trucks etc.
During the pig board days he started his own line of decks called Ty Sticks.
I have tried to hunt him down but have had no luck.
Ty Paige...MIA.

 
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On 11/19/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

Didn't Rodney do the new school kickflip first?
The O.S. stance kickflip goes to........
hint: on the Freeformer team.

 
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On 11/19/2001 Scabs wrote in from (216.78.nnn.nnn)

On 11/13/2001 hc wrote in from 207.212.xxx.xxx:
lynn, cool info on rodney.

just curious, who is the first to hit kickflip (new school style)? and when?
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hc,
I wouldn`t be surprised if a cali boy takes credit for it but I`d have to believe it originated down in the Ratlands (south florida). I had this move back in `76 that started from a 360% spin and lift the board up in the air. At first I could only bust a 180% on this manuever but after long hours of practice, I finally started landing the 360%. Differance from the kickflip is not only was my board spinning but so was I.

Then a local skatepark opened that year in Hollywood called Skateboard USA. Under the ramp to the main bowl was a little bowl with lots of places to roll in. On hot summer days, this was the place to be to escape the heat. Soon this other kid started doing my move but he one-upped me and took it to the vert.

Yup, we`re talking about Alan Gelfand, my fellow rat. And the move is his...OLLIE and I respect him for not only pulling off the baddest trick but also revolutionizing skateboard too.

Others where doing tricks along the same lines too. That`s why I`d have to believe the new school kick flip had to originate fron down here. Just a natural progression of things.

And speaking of Alan, he and I are still buds and for what he`s done, he doesn`t have a big head. Just another local rat.

 
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On 11/16/2001 Bud wrote in from (24.64.nnn.nnn)

Jeremy, if you can find a new school mini Cab, it is a good freestyle deck. not much concave or kick. Kevin Harris uses this deck. Enough said. ( Lynn ,let me know when you are coming up to the cabin)Bud

 
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On 11/16/2001 The Boardman wrote in from (208.44.nnn.nnn)

Jeremy - I think alot of the old freestyle guys used a flat board (most were homemade), tracker 1/2 tracks and HARD and SMALL wheels.

 
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On 11/14/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

does anyone have some suggestions on a good freestyle set-up that would be good for 70's freestyle tricks. any reissue stuff anyone knows about?

 
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On 11/13/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (152.163.nnn.nnn)

thanks msk, that collection is so cool! the are ads are great but you can't really read the articles, bummer, i really wanted to read this one by russ howell about freestyle tricks and it has a picture of the runs he did in some of the championships he won. that collection makes me want to go skate. freestyle is the best!

 
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On 11/13/2001 msk wrote in from (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Jeremy,

Check out www.turnerdownhill.com, and click on the Russ Howell Skateboarder collection. There are several articles, interviews, and pictures of Page scattered throughout the collection, mostly in the earlier years...

 
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On 11/13/2001 hc wrote in from (207.212.nnn.nnn)

lynn, cool info on rodney.

just curious, who is the first to hit kickflip (new school style)? and when?

 
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On 11/13/2001 jeremy cooper wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

was ty page a freestyler? does anyone have sites i can check out that would have some info on him? any old footage? his sponsors from back in the day? what he is doing now? anything...

 
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On 11/11/2001 Bob Staton wrote in from (4.41.nnn.nnn)

Happy Anniversery!
It was one year ago tonight that 13 of us skated in
Dr. Bill Robinson's World Freestyle Skateboard
Championship/Reunion in San Francisco. That event
marked the beginning of the freestyle revival. We are
back and we are movin' on up!
See you at this years World Flatland Freestyle Skateboard Championship in Johnson City NY
on Dec. 1st and 2nd.
I will be at La Costa for the races and banked event
and also at the dinner the night beforeif any of you would like to talk about the revival of some California
freestyle classics like the Cow Palace and Oceanside.
Bob Staton, President WFSA and CFSL

 
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On 11/10/2001 A.J. Kohn wrote in from (4.20.nnn.nnn)

If anyone is interested in the Freestyle Championships all the info you need is on www.reversefreestyle.com/f and go to the calandar section. Thanks Lynn for the Plug! Freestyle is coming back THPS3, Globe Opinion video (Rodneys part) are taking it to the mainstream and the WFSA the FSOA the Barrio Games and all the other promoters and skaters of Freestyle are making it happen in every city and town lets make the best of this time anew age in Freestyle is upon us and for it to blossom we need everyone to have and do there part by coming to Comps, putting on demos, skating with everyone and teachng those who want to learn. It can happen but it depends on all of us. Hope to see you all in the future especially at the Championships. Late

 
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On 11/10/2001 Lynn Cooper wrote in from (63.36.nnn.nnn)

Okay, now that the new PlayStation Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 game is out, I can give you all the scoop. Several weeks ago, I met up with Rodney Mullen here in Denver and gave him a copy of my "Wheelin' in the Years - Part 1" movie. He was really greatful and I informed him of all the efforts, so many of us have been working on the last couple of years to promote Freestyle. He seemed stunned to hear how many of us were really still into Freestyle. For those of you that don't know me, I competed in most of the contests from 1981, until the Freestyle contests stopped in 1990-91. I've been skating for 26 years now. Anyways, Rodney took the video to PlayStation and the game designers contacted me. I agreed to donate any of the video footage they wanted. Well, the game was just released and I have been receiving positive feedback already! Basically, if you play the Rodney Mullen portion of the game and achieve a bonus, you will see a video segment of Rodney skating Freestyle at the San Francisco contest in 1988, or the Oceanside Championships in 1986. Even if only 1% of the millions of people that will play the game get hooked on learning more flatland skateboarding, I am hoping that this may in some way help to propel a new Renaissance in Freestyle skateboarding.

Rodney also mentioned that he has been receiving many requests for more Freestyle footage in his videos. He mentioned that he skates 50% Freestyle and 50% Streetstyle in the new Globe video, so check it out!

For those of you that are interested,I added more content relating to this information under "PROfiles" on my www.skatelegends.com website.

Many of us will be competing in the New York Freestyle Championships the beginning of December. Contact me or A.J. Kohn for more information.

Also, I'm working to put together a contest here in Colorado, in 2002.

"Keep on Sk8in!" :)

 
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On 11/7/2001 Richard Lines wrote in from (62.171.nnn.nnn)

I'm a 'new generation skater' and i have discovered freestyle skateboarding! I find that it is possible to do freestyle tricks on almost any board! I have a 7.5 inch wide deck and can do many freestyle tricks that alot of people seem to think aren't possible on these boards!
I've been skating for 11 months and improve noticeably, every day! When you skate you need to analyse in your head what you are doing. It helps to ask people what you are doing right! Show them where you are and they might be able to help! Don't worry about looking good. You will never look good until you start to land tricks consistantly and it takes alot of thought and time. You will find that you don't practice some tricks and you may loose them, it just takes time to get them back. I'm 15 and skateboarding in England, there are more skaters than ever. Don't start to think that you are better than anyone, there is always someone better than you!

 
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On 11/5/2001 Felix wrote in from (205.188.nnn.nnn)

I've got a story for everyone. I'm almost 32 and have been Freestyling for as long as I can remember. I just recently switched from the old shape to a "new school" shape, I find that because it is alittle longer that the old shape its easier to preform tricks on. Anyways, I was really feeling it so I went down to the local skatepark and began to skate.
I'm a big fan of the really old Freestyle tricks: endos, nose wheelies (one footed is my favorite), 360's (one footed on those are great fun, too), moon-walks, duck-walks, and some of my newer ones like caspers and rail stuff, oh yeah, and crazy fast footwork. Back to the story, some of the kids notice my spinning and came to watch, they were all pretty amazed except this one kid. I finnished off about five 360's on my first attempt then that one grommet came up to me and said, "What are you doing, why don't you go grind on the ledge?" I responded, "Its called freestyle and the reason I'm not grinding the ledge is because I don't not how I frankly, do not have the urge to learn..."
He kind of laughed at me because I had no grinding ability then said "Oh yeah, Freestyle, I'm really good at that" and probably did one of the uglyist 50/50 casper I've ever seen in my whole skating days. I just looked at him then rolled away and busted an old school kick-flip 180 right in his face, Freestyle that, chump...

 
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On 11/3/2001 Claude wrote in from (24.112.nnn.nnn)

Neil, it's probably been the same story throughout most of our skating careers. The guys who never quit have probably always been quetioned or look at in a different light.

It's been 11 years since my last pro Slalom race (90 PSL 1rst Place) and that had been my 1rst race since the Expo 86 comp.

I've since added 6 surgeries included back to back (heart Surgeries) 6 days appart in '99, so you just imagine the types criticism and crazied looks I'm getting up here in Canada where we seen snow flakes 3 times so far.

Anyways, I'll see you at La Costa in a few weeks. Skate for yourself and enjoy the love, peace and tranquility it brings to you. Peace

 
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On 11/2/2001 hc wrote in from (207.212.nnn.nnn)

just saw Globe's new video "opinion" at the downtown cinema in SJ sponsored by circleA. To those who are fans of rodney mullen, it's a must see. very sick.

 
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On 11/2/2001 Neil G wrote in from (198.169.nnn.nnn)

Regarding age:

When I first started skating at 15 in 1976, most skaters were 10 or 12 and people criticised me for being too old for kid's toys.

When I was skating in the mid-80s in my mid-20s, most skaters were high school kids and people criticised me for being too old for these teenage activities.

Now I'm 40 and still skating and many of the active skaters are in their early 20s. I don't get much flak, in fact I get a lot of genuine interest in my longboard and slalom rigs.

What's my point? I guess same as Henry's. It's just been interesting to always be the oldest skater around no matter how old I've been :)

Neil

 
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